People that drive 50 on motorways - why?
Discussion
SuperchargedVR6 said:
That's 2 lanes wasted whilst they are fannying about, which = a borked DC for however long it takes for them to get on with it, or a heavily congested Lane 3 on a Motorway. This is why all you see on DCs these days, is a long snake of brake lights in the outside lane.
Not always. I regularly sit at 70 in the leftmost lane, virtually no traffic save the occasional HGV with sometimes 1, sometimes 2 empty lanes and then the rightmost lane chock full of driving gods tailgating each other constantly dabbing the brakes. What I will agree on though is that most people either don't know how or don't care about using the motorway properly which means there is a lot of wasted capacity.
LanceRS said:
Motorways would work much better if everyone was on the same page (in some case the same book would be an improvement). 50 mph on a fairly empty stretch is not really going to cause too many problems.
When it's busy and lane 1 is slowed down to 50, those that want to do 55 find themselves in lane 2. Those that want to do 60 then move out into lane 3. You are then stuck in heavily congested traffic among drivers who have not had enough forward vision and are not expecting an entire motorway to be moving noticeably slower than it's 70mph limit, for no apparent reason.
I generally do not care if some people have the luxury of all the time in the world, but drive to the conditions and not become an obstruction, it is dangerous, if only because of other people's poor standards of driving and anticipation.
On the argument that 50 is the speed at which some people feel confident, I would suggest that a modern motorway is not the place for them. This is entirely my mothers argument for refusing to drive on one.
The fact that we're having this discussion shows that self-regulation doesn't work. Not everyone has the sense. But for those that don't, I'm not sure making them speed up is the answer. Self-driving cars will probably be the answer, but that's another can of worms.When it's busy and lane 1 is slowed down to 50, those that want to do 55 find themselves in lane 2. Those that want to do 60 then move out into lane 3. You are then stuck in heavily congested traffic among drivers who have not had enough forward vision and are not expecting an entire motorway to be moving noticeably slower than it's 70mph limit, for no apparent reason.
I generally do not care if some people have the luxury of all the time in the world, but drive to the conditions and not become an obstruction, it is dangerous, if only because of other people's poor standards of driving and anticipation.
On the argument that 50 is the speed at which some people feel confident, I would suggest that a modern motorway is not the place for them. This is entirely my mothers argument for refusing to drive on one.
SuperchargedVR6 said:
Some roads have crawler lanes with a picture of a HGV on a sign post. Does that not give people a clue as to where HGVs belong in general?
Technically crawler lanes tend to be on hills, they are designed not only for HGVs but heavily laden (44ton) and/or low powered HGVs which are incapable of maintaining ~45mph up the incline. In this situation it is expected for non-heavy/underpowered units to take lane 2 in order to pass the actual 'crawlers'.If you want to fix THAT issue stop hauliage companies from loading up 350bhp units with 40tons and expecting them to trundle up and down the motorway networks without becoming obstructions, hell well they are at it remove the top end limiters on lorries, elephant overtaking gone! Fixxed! Done! It would also terrify the BRAKE nimbys which is always a plus point in my book.
I drive trucks.
I do find it frustrating coming behind a car doing 50.
No problem as long as when I overtake them they do not decide in 2 miles to then come past me at 70 and then in 2 miles slow back to 50 again.
Has an idiot on the M23 a few weeks ago who wanted to play games with HGV's.
When you went to pass he would speed up. move back behind him and he would slow down.
I am reasonably patient but started winding me up.
Fortunately after 10 minutes of this he buggered off, and I could then see him doing the same to a foreign truck driver 500 yds ahead of me.
Test of patience.
I do find it frustrating coming behind a car doing 50.
No problem as long as when I overtake them they do not decide in 2 miles to then come past me at 70 and then in 2 miles slow back to 50 again.
Has an idiot on the M23 a few weeks ago who wanted to play games with HGV's.
When you went to pass he would speed up. move back behind him and he would slow down.
I am reasonably patient but started winding me up.
Fortunately after 10 minutes of this he buggered off, and I could then see him doing the same to a foreign truck driver 500 yds ahead of me.
Test of patience.
plastictoast said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
I'm allowed to do 70, so I'm going to do 70 thanks. Or considerably more if I feel like it.
And I'm not rising to that bait... you can drive as fast as you like. But that's your choice. How slowly other people drive is their choice. See how it works?Janesy B said:
Life would be easier if everyone aimed for the limit, rather than losers plodding at 50 and tossers wanting to do 100.
Once again, anyone that doesn't drive at the same speed as you is a "loser" and a "tosser"? Are all HGV drivers "losers"? I applaud you for never having broken a speed limit in your life, quite an excellent record.I generally sit between 60 and 70, although the Galaxy was dreadful at 60 so a little under was usually bearable.
I am yet to figure out, why, if I am doing 70, Drivers come speeding past me ? OK 70 wont be accurate but still.. They go hurtling past at a great rate of knots.
How is it they don't end up with speeding fines ? Why do they not get caught exceeding the speed limit ?
I am yet to figure out, why, if I am doing 70, Drivers come speeding past me ? OK 70 wont be accurate but still.. They go hurtling past at a great rate of knots.
How is it they don't end up with speeding fines ? Why do they not get caught exceeding the speed limit ?
Edited by cpjitservices on Friday 24th June 13:01
Ive been caught twice, Got offered speed awareness first time, next time I got hit by the man with speed gun. 3 Points. Not that I intended to speed, I was on a single carriageway, 60 MPH speed limit. I crept a little over 60 as I was driving in thick fog, at night. Was concentrating more on road conditions and crept over 60. Bang. Ticket.
tarnished said:
They slow down for cameras and maybe sometimes they do get caught by a van.
You have to try quite hard to get caught enough for totting up to become an issue.
But these days dont you get flashed by the cams if you are 1MPH over the limit ? Or is that just the speed guns at the side of the road in the vans ? You have to try quite hard to get caught enough for totting up to become an issue.
cpjitservices said:
tarnished said:
They slow down for cameras and maybe sometimes they do get caught by a van.
You have to try quite hard to get caught enough for totting up to become an issue.
But these days dont you get flashed by the cams if you are 1MPH over the limit ? Or is that just the speed guns at the side of the road in the vans ? You have to try quite hard to get caught enough for totting up to become an issue.
cpjitservices said:
Ive been caught twice, Got offered speed awareness first time, next time I got hit by the man with speed gun. 3 Points. Not that I intended to speed, I was on a single carriageway, 60 MPH speed limit. I crept a little over 60 as I was driving in thick fog, at night. Was concentrating more on road conditions and crept over 60. Bang. Ticket.
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