People that drive 50 on motorways - why?
Discussion
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I've never been convinced by this argument. It smacks to me of something people say to justify having a far more powerful vehicle than they need. Nothing wrong with having a powerful car or bike, but just say you got it because you wanted it, not because "I need to have power to get out of danger."
When you're in a dangerous situation, very rarely is accelerating the answer. The only times I've ever had to accelerate out of danger is when I've done something daft to put myself in danger, like pulled out of a side road when I should have waited. And if I'd had a less powerful car in the first place, I would have waited.
Unfortunately, you're rightWhen you're in a dangerous situation, very rarely is accelerating the answer. The only times I've ever had to accelerate out of danger is when I've done something daft to put myself in danger, like pulled out of a side road when I should have waited. And if I'd had a less powerful car in the first place, I would have waited.
I still have powerful cars
DS197 said:
swisstoni said:
Not to mention berks causing all trucks to overtake.
Whats wrong with causing trucks to overtake on a three lane motorway? As long as they don't speed up and act like idiots.The M25 L1 at busy times is virtually a wall of trucks. Anything doing 50 in L1 will cause the whole lot to have to come out into L2 to get past.
F1GTRUeno said:
Nothing boils my piss more than someone doing 50-55 in the inside lane at the junction you're coming off and then they carry on past the turn off.
WTF would that boil your piss? How does it possibly affect you if you are leaving the motorway?F1GTRUeno said:
It's 70 on a motorway, do 70 you f
king tts.
That include HGV drivers as well, they all tking tts.ts? 
SlimJim16v said:
Valgar said:
I am finding I am doing 60 a lot now in my new Micra 1.2 Auto because it really doesn't want to know above 60, anything north of 60 is an effort and it's pretty harsh.
It'll do 100mph, like most modern cars. This says more about you than the car.Show my Fiesta a hill with a couple of passengers on board and 70mph was a distant dream.
Christ PH is going down hill. I have no problem with those that want to do 50-60 on the inside lane of a motorway for what ever reason. I cruise at 56-62 in my daily bus (Touareg) if I'm in no hurry, it does the best part of 10mpg better than trying to force a hole in the air at 75.
I do not hold up lorries, I do however get pissed off with idiots doing 65in the middle lane who see you on the inside waiting to pull out past a lorry or something when the lane to their right is clear but insist on crawling past you at less than 5 mph differential because they don't 'do' the 'fast lane'. And stick yo the middle lane, Zero observational skills. You should be flashing to let someone out like that before they know it themselves....
I do not hold up lorries, I do however get pissed off with idiots doing 65in the middle lane who see you on the inside waiting to pull out past a lorry or something when the lane to their right is clear but insist on crawling past you at less than 5 mph differential because they don't 'do' the 'fast lane'. And stick yo the middle lane, Zero observational skills. You should be flashing to let someone out like that before they know it themselves....
As an ex BSM qualified driving instructor, it was frowned upon if you didn't drive AT the speed limit on any road, unless there was a good reason not to.
PS. I get bored and loose interest, hence concentration if I don't perceive myself progressing at a reasonable speed. I'm sure many here will have seen the loan motor racing driver miles in the lead, who falls off due to loosing concentration. The brain NEEDS stimulation, or it goes (naturally) into switch off mode. I’m sure I read this somewhere regarding lone guard duty at night in the Army.
PS. I get bored and loose interest, hence concentration if I don't perceive myself progressing at a reasonable speed. I'm sure many here will have seen the loan motor racing driver miles in the lead, who falls off due to loosing concentration. The brain NEEDS stimulation, or it goes (naturally) into switch off mode. I’m sure I read this somewhere regarding lone guard duty at night in the Army.
Edited by robinessex on Sunday 26th June 09:55
robinessex said:
As an ex BSM qualified driving instructor, it was frowned upon if you didn't drive AT the speed limit on any road, unless there was a good reason not to.
Exactly what I was thinking, you are encouraged to accelerate to the speed limit and keep up with the flow of traffic.If you're that worried about your MPG I think you've bought the wrong car and need to post a 'another what car' thread.
I had a fuel filter blocking once on the M11 and after overtaking a lorry started to lose power as the fuel flow was restricted.
I was towing roughly 2.5 tons in a Defender, so nearly 5 tons in total, now it normally holds 60mph easily and needed 4th on steeper hills but generally was no problem for other road users.
As soon as I struggled and was sitting between 45/50mph most people coming up behind was taken by surprise and acted like knobs. Swerving out at the last minute, Lorries trying to push me up the road and slowing themselves in the process instead of getting past etc. A few idiots even decided cutting back in very close to my bumper was a way of showing their dominance, sigh.
The problem was fixed quickly but how anyone would want to actively sit at 50 unless due to mechanical issues boggles my mind.
Dave!
I was towing roughly 2.5 tons in a Defender, so nearly 5 tons in total, now it normally holds 60mph easily and needed 4th on steeper hills but generally was no problem for other road users.
As soon as I struggled and was sitting between 45/50mph most people coming up behind was taken by surprise and acted like knobs. Swerving out at the last minute, Lorries trying to push me up the road and slowing themselves in the process instead of getting past etc. A few idiots even decided cutting back in very close to my bumper was a way of showing their dominance, sigh.
The problem was fixed quickly but how anyone would want to actively sit at 50 unless due to mechanical issues boggles my mind.
Dave!
robinessex said:
As an ex BSM qualified driving instructor, it was frowned upon if you didn't drive AT the speed limit on any road, unless there was a good reason not to.
PS. I get bored and loose interest, hence concentration if I don't perceive myself progressing at a reasonable speed. I'm sure many here will have seen the loan motor racing driver miles in the lead, who falls off due to loosing concentration. The brain NEEDS stimulation, or it goes (naturally) into switch off mode. I’m sure I read this somewhere regarding lone guard duty at night in the Army.
The brain needs stimulation. It depends upon context though. As for guard duty, the Romans sorted that centuries ago with a very pragmatic approach.PS. I get bored and loose interest, hence concentration if I don't perceive myself progressing at a reasonable speed. I'm sure many here will have seen the loan motor racing driver miles in the lead, who falls off due to loosing concentration. The brain NEEDS stimulation, or it goes (naturally) into switch off mode. I’m sure I read this somewhere regarding lone guard duty at night in the Army.
Edited by robinessex on Sunday 26th June 09:55
I think part of the problem is that there is an expectation that cars will be doing a certain speed, when drivers go too far either side, you get problems, you get Mr 520D late for a meeting doing 95 and Doris doing 45 there is a 50 mph speed differential, crashes occur,
When
Cars cross each others path
Are going in opposite directions and come into conflict
or a speed differential going in the same direction
very simplistic but really, 50 mph is too slow, lorries aren't so bad as they are massive and there is the expectation they are doing 50 or not much more but those cars doing 50 mph, usually in the middle lane are a pain, and a hazard, not so bad if they confined themselves to the left hand lane but they don't, causes bunching and more lane changing, and more incidents, not necessarily involving that car.
Just need to accept it, like cyclists, trucks, horses, pedestrians, roadworks, queues etc it is part of driving, just try and do your own well as you cant educate every other driver and its not worth the blood pressure, most are just a bit clueless and intent on getting where they are going, the journey and how they tackle it doesn't matter to them.
When
Cars cross each others path
Are going in opposite directions and come into conflict
or a speed differential going in the same direction
very simplistic but really, 50 mph is too slow, lorries aren't so bad as they are massive and there is the expectation they are doing 50 or not much more but those cars doing 50 mph, usually in the middle lane are a pain, and a hazard, not so bad if they confined themselves to the left hand lane but they don't, causes bunching and more lane changing, and more incidents, not necessarily involving that car.
Just need to accept it, like cyclists, trucks, horses, pedestrians, roadworks, queues etc it is part of driving, just try and do your own well as you cant educate every other driver and its not worth the blood pressure, most are just a bit clueless and intent on getting where they are going, the journey and how they tackle it doesn't matter to them.
J4CKO said:
I think part of the problem is that there is an expectation that cars will be doing a certain speed, when drivers go too far either side, you get problems, you get Mr 520D late for a meeting doing 95 and Doris doing 45 there is a 50 mph speed differential, crashes occur,
And the one at fault is Doris doing the speed she wishes not the 520D doing 25mph over the limit????TwigtheWonderkid said:
Pete317 said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Digby said:
The kind of thread that makes you wonder what some of the posters are doing on a motorist forum.
"I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"
PistonFeds - Speed never matters
This is the kind of drivel that makes me despair of motoring forums, that everyone is possessed with either speed or acceleration."I will NOT travel at, or near, motorway speeds on a motorway....now, where can I sign up to tell the world of this?"
PistonFeds - Speed never matters
You can be a motoring enthusiast into bubble cars, 70s mopeds, etc. My mate rides a 1927 Harley. It weights a tonne and has about 15 hp I think. It would never get anywhere near 70. It takes half a mile to stop from about 40. Is he not allowed to be a PH?
That aside, this thread is about those who won't go faster, not about those who can't.
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