People that drive 50 on motorways - why?
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One contributing factor is inaccurate speedometers.
Recently had a Nissan Note hire car and on a speed-indicated 70mph my SatNav was reading 64mph.
If you had that car and felt 60 was a 'safe' motorway speed, you'd be doing near enough 55mph.
It took me a while to work out why it felt like everyone was driving so fast the first day I had it. Only when I turned on the SatNav did I realise just how 'off' the speedo was. With the speedo at 80mph I was doing a SatNav 72!
Recently had a Nissan Note hire car and on a speed-indicated 70mph my SatNav was reading 64mph.
If you had that car and felt 60 was a 'safe' motorway speed, you'd be doing near enough 55mph.
It took me a while to work out why it felt like everyone was driving so fast the first day I had it. Only when I turned on the SatNav did I realise just how 'off' the speedo was. With the speedo at 80mph I was doing a SatNav 72!
spookly said:
On a driving test you'd be picking up minors and risking a fail if you don't show confidence and get up towards the speed limit.
Why should it be any different on motorways if it clear enough?
You would also fail your driving test for tuning in your radio, driving with your elbow out of the window, and a million other things that we do quite happily once we've passed our test. So what's your point?Why should it be any different on motorways if it clear enough?
A driving test is about showing you can do things. There is no need to keep doing them once you've passed if you choose not to. If you don't like doing 3 point turns, you don't have to do them, just because you did on your driving test.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
A driving test is about showing you can do things. There is no need to keep doing them once you've passed if you choose not to.
one of the most stupid statements I've ever read on here.Once you've shown an examiner you can drive safely, you can choose not to afterwards. Mental.
bmw535i said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
A driving test is about showing you can do things. There is no need to keep doing them once you've passed if you choose not to.
one of the most stupid statements I've ever read on here.Once you've shown an examiner you can drive safely, you can choose not to afterwards. Mental.
drivin_me_nuts said:
Sometimes, when you're not in a hurry, it's a rather pleasant thing to do. M6 north of Preston for example, up to Shap and parts of the M74. Lovely.
I agree. Our campervan cruises at 55 but struggles to do 65, so we just tuck in with the HGVs in the inside lane matching their speed. Nothing to do with lacking confidence, being unaware, or trying to save fuel. Cruising at a comfortable speed (for the van!) whilst keeping out of the way. And if you're not in a hurry its surprisingly pleasant and relaxing.TwigtheWonderkid said:
bmw535i said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
A driving test is about showing you can do things. There is no need to keep doing them once you've passed if you choose not to.
one of the most stupid statements I've ever read on here.Once you've shown an examiner you can drive safely, you can choose not to afterwards. Mental.
Mave said:
I agree. Our campervan cruises at 55 but struggles to do 65, so we just tuck in with the HGVs in the inside lane matching their speed. Nothing to do with lacking confidence, being unaware, or trying to save fuel. Cruising at a comfortable speed (for the van!) whilst keeping out of the way. And if you're not in a hurry its surprisingly pleasant and relaxing.
Esceptico said:
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Why such judgemental arrogance?
The public may drive at whatever speed they like & who the hell has the right to criticise?. Just mind your own business & learn patience & tolerance.
If too fast or exceeding the limit then 'they' may well have to answer for any consequences.
Too slow & again 'consequences', which may be in the form of 'causing an obstruction' a difficult charge to prove & Plod more interested in the get-out-of-my way I'm-better-than you brigade.
We live in an increasingly overpopulated island & our roads are going to seem empty compared with the congestion 10 years or less ahead.
Having driven the length of the UK at never more than 60mph & frequently at 50mph in the inside or middle lane it's no big deal for me or others. Alternatively have done the same journey almost continuously at or a tad over the legal limit (often at night). So I'll drive at whatever speed I like thank you BUT I do respect that others may wish to go faster & happy to let them do so BY NOT DRIVING IN AN OBSTRUCTIVE MANNER.
None of has the right to tell how others how to drive, leave that to the professionals.
The public may drive at whatever speed they like & who the hell has the right to criticise?. Just mind your own business & learn patience & tolerance.
If too fast or exceeding the limit then 'they' may well have to answer for any consequences.
Too slow & again 'consequences', which may be in the form of 'causing an obstruction' a difficult charge to prove & Plod more interested in the get-out-of-my way I'm-better-than you brigade.
We live in an increasingly overpopulated island & our roads are going to seem empty compared with the congestion 10 years or less ahead.
Having driven the length of the UK at never more than 60mph & frequently at 50mph in the inside or middle lane it's no big deal for me or others. Alternatively have done the same journey almost continuously at or a tad over the legal limit (often at night). So I'll drive at whatever speed I like thank you BUT I do respect that others may wish to go faster & happy to let them do so BY NOT DRIVING IN AN OBSTRUCTIVE MANNER.
None of has the right to tell how others how to drive, leave that to the professionals.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
WJNB said:
Just mind your own business & learn patience & tolerance.
A few PHers are now reaching for the dictionary.It's obviously down to personal preference, I suppose some people get stressed by different things.
I'd rather go nice and steady at 55 without a care in the world than sit at 70 and have to deal with all the useless bds who can't maintain a constant speed. You know the type - the ones who are doing 60mph so you pull out to overtake, but then they speed up to 75mph and leave you hanging so you have to pull in behind them again. And repeat. That stresses me out no end!
Having said that, a friend who works with the emergency services showed me some pictures of cars being hit from behind by lorries. They were enough to convince me that putting yourself in harms way between lorries at 55mph is a really bad idea.
I'd rather go nice and steady at 55 without a care in the world than sit at 70 and have to deal with all the useless bds who can't maintain a constant speed. You know the type - the ones who are doing 60mph so you pull out to overtake, but then they speed up to 75mph and leave you hanging so you have to pull in behind them again. And repeat. That stresses me out no end!
Having said that, a friend who works with the emergency services showed me some pictures of cars being hit from behind by lorries. They were enough to convince me that putting yourself in harms way between lorries at 55mph is a really bad idea.
Annoying. Numerous mirror checks, waiting for gaps etc only to be repeated over and over and over on a road you were once glad to get on to so you could make some progress.
Even worse, many of them join such roads at 30 to 40 mph and can take an age to creep up to the dizzying heights of 50 mph.
Take the A and B roads and get out of the way of those who are using such roads for the purpose they were designed.
Even worse, many of them join such roads at 30 to 40 mph and can take an age to creep up to the dizzying heights of 50 mph.
Take the A and B roads and get out of the way of those who are using such roads for the purpose they were designed.
bmw535i said:
Mave said:
I agree. Our campervan cruises at 55 but struggles to do 65, so we just tuck in with the HGVs in the inside lane matching their speed. Nothing to do with lacking confidence, being unaware, or trying to save fuel. Cruising at a comfortable speed (for the van!) whilst keeping out of the way. And if you're not in a hurry its surprisingly pleasant and relaxing.
Esceptico said:
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romeogolf said:
One contributing factor is inaccurate speedometers.
Recently had a Nissan Note hire car and on a speed-indicated 70mph my SatNav was reading 64mph.
If you had that car and felt 60 was a 'safe' motorway speed, you'd be doing near enough 55mph.
It took me a while to work out why it felt like everyone was driving so fast the first day I had it. Only when I turned on the SatNav did I realise just how 'off' the speedo was. With the speedo at 80mph I was doing a SatNav 72!
That's the thing, many of those hogs as well as the "I'm in the outside lane doing 70mph so I'm not going to pull in" don't realise that just because you see XXmph on your speedo doesn't mean you're actually doing that much. Hence why traveling on our motorways is such a fking pain in the ass and every time I'm on the continent it always feels like I'm surrounded be people from mensa who know how to drive and are not afraid of speeds higher than 60mph. Recently had a Nissan Note hire car and on a speed-indicated 70mph my SatNav was reading 64mph.
If you had that car and felt 60 was a 'safe' motorway speed, you'd be doing near enough 55mph.
It took me a while to work out why it felt like everyone was driving so fast the first day I had it. Only when I turned on the SatNav did I realise just how 'off' the speedo was. With the speedo at 80mph I was doing a SatNav 72!
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