New N/A cars like the VW Golf R32 now we leaving the EU

New N/A cars like the VW Golf R32 now we leaving the EU

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750turbo

6,164 posts

224 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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EnglishTony said:
Why would German car manufacturers produce special engines for the UK? Right now they fking hate Britain and that's without mentioning the contempt they have for Sterling.
Do they? Why?

OP is having a pipedream and a laugh!

nickfrog

21,138 posts

217 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Gaffaa said:
Oh look Marge! A poor , sad, left wing leftie who has 'hello darkness my old friend' on repeat. You lost, GET OVER IT.
Lefties tend to not to be right wing. Who would have thought there was a correlation between socio-educational background and propensity to vote leave ? ;-)

Still, this is also superb binary thinking : you could only be left wing to have voted remain.

996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Gaffaa said:
wemorgan said:
Gaffaa said:
It would be great that once we are officially out from the ghastly chains of the EU, VW, BMW, Mercedes and so on start developing N/A V6, V8 engines again specifically for the UK market,!
Haha you poor misinformed soul.
Oh look Marge! A poor , sad, left wing leftie who has 'hello darkness my old friend' on repeat. You lost, GET OVER IT.
Actually, no, YOU lost.

It's those with a lower standard of education, with fewer opportunities, who suffer the most in any downturn. The smarter folk always have options, and are smart enough to recognise them, anyway.

But you will get over it. In around 8-10 years when hopefully the situation will stabilise fully, during which time you will be blaming Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, "multinationals", Microsoft, Monsanto, Google and Facebook for your woes, but never the choice you made on the 23rd. After all, you will no longer be able to blame "Brussels".

DukeDickson

4,721 posts

213 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Gaffaa said:
It would be great that once we are officially out from the ghastly chains of the EU, VW, BMW, Mercedes and so on start developing N/A V6, V8 engines again specifically for the UK market, even in limited numbers I'm sure there would be enough of an interests.

Cars like the mk4, mk5 golf r32 is what I love and it would be great if similar hot hatches and saloons in a modern form with more power and more fuel efficient could be built!
Why would the manufacturers still at the centre of the EU spend a boat load of money developing engines for a single market that isn't the USA? Or at a stretch, Japan? One where a large slug of purchases are dictated by company car policies tied to list price and emissions. Must be ready to st money!

Not going to happen, even as a vanity project, for anyone outside of the likes of Ferrari or Lamborghini. That might make me sad, but it is our world.

tomjol

532 posts

117 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Jesus fking christ, how thick can people get?

Develop new NA engines in limited numbers for the UK market...get a fking grip!

Timbola

1,956 posts

140 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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tomjol said:
Jesus fking christ, how thick can people get?

Develop new NA engines in limited numbers for the UK market...get a fking grip!
yes

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CS Garth

2,860 posts

105 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Timbola said:
tomjol said:
Jesus fking christ, how thick can people get?

Develop new NA engines in limited numbers for the UK market...get a fking grip!
yes

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Correct. Looking out over the forums the general summary is of the remainers having to explain simple economic consequences to a bunch of clucking bigoted anti foreigner brexiteers who are basically labelling everyone sore lefty losers who need to "deal with democracy".

I don't think every leaver is a thick nutter. But I know every thick nutter was a leaver. And in any situation it is these people who suffer most so I am unsure how they think their lives will be better.

Cue a load of abuse about being intellectual, leftie, a bad loser, patronising etc is the go to labels of the sub educated


Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Seriously though, the sad thing is that some leavers voted as they did for stuff like this.

Maybe they think that mythical £350m would be used to get what they want ?


Evolved said:
Crafty_ said:
Large N/A engines have had their time.
Someone needs to remind the states wink
Ford in the US sell one car with a V8, which is the Mustang. Its also available with a 2 litre four pot.
They'll happily sell you a 1 litre fiesta instead, or a fully electric focus or hybrid Fusion (Mondeo) / C-Max.

Whilst I'd agree its the most likely place to find big N/A engines times are changing, V8s are increasingly rare even on their roads.




wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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And where were those same people at the General Election? Were they campaigning on issues such as higher car emissions? No, they most likely failed to even vote. And when they now finally found an issue they cared enough to vote on, they failed to understand they question being put to them. How thoroughly depressing.

The EU never imposed strict exhaust emissions on the UK. The UK wanted these regulations. If you didn't agree with it your time to vote was the General Election.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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wemorgan said:
The EU never imposed strict exhaust emissions on the UK.
It might also be worth reminding people that the European type-approval regs aren't actually EU. They're UNECE - United Nations Economic Commission for Europe.

And, no matter what Fox News thinks, the UK hasn't and isn't leaving the UN.


The UNECE standards are rapidly becoming the default global standard - the only real alternatives are the Far Eastern (Japanese-driven) and North American (US-driven) standards.

Sure, the EU then picked where and how to follow those standards, and the UK will get to do that independently if/when Article 50 ever gets invoked and the UK actually leaves the EU (at least two years from when Cameron's successor invokes Article 50). Until then...? We're still in the EU.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Sunday 26th June 10:11

S0 What

3,358 posts

172 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Crafty_ said:
Seriously though, the sad thing is that some leavers voted as they did for stuff like this.

Maybe they think that mythical £350m would be used to get what they want ?


Evolved said:
Crafty_ said:
Large N/A engines have had their time.
Someone needs to remind the states wink
Ford in the US sell one car with a V8, which is the Mustang. Its also available with a 2 litre four pot.
They'll happily sell you a 1 litre fiesta instead, or a fully electric focus or hybrid Fusion (Mondeo) / C-Max.

Whilst I'd agree its the most likely place to find big N/A engines times are changing, V8s are increasingly rare even on their roads.
Heard worse TBH, 1 old girl i do shopping for voted out cos the germans bombed her, no really, when i took her to vote that was her reason (shes 87) but then it was better than a customer on saterday who proudly proclaimed he voted out so he could once again eat small strawberrys, i really wish i was kidding rolleyes mind you he was in for missfueling his skoda , for the 3rd time this year rolleyes

DamnKraut

458 posts

99 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Gaffaa said:
It would be great that once we are officially out from the ghastly chains of the EU, VW, BMW, Mercedes and so on start developing N/A V6, V8 engines again specifically for the UK market, even in limited numbers I'm sure there would be enough of an interests.

Cars like the mk4, mk5 golf r32 is what I love and it would be great if similar hot hatches and saloons in a modern form with more power and more fuel efficient could be built!
Congrats OP, you are always good for a laugh clap
Please keep contributing to the forum in such hillarious ways.

Speaking for the Kraut part of your post, the UK has never been a core market for German manufacturers and outside the ghastly evil EU will be even less so. The way I see it there is a chance that England, once Scotland and NI leave you, becomes about as relevant a car market as Australia - maybe already is? biglaugh

You already have a chav spec S3 in which you put so much money so why drool about a V8 UK-exclusive S3 in super-chav spec that will never happen anyway?

If you want to secure yourself something in the likes of the above cars, use the economic downturn the UK will go through in the next years to get a cheap used one.

Greetings from the EU, ghastliest place on Earth, just having beaten North Korea to it woohoo

DamnKraut

458 posts

99 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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EnglishTony said:
Why would German car manufacturers produce special engines for the UK? Right now they fking hate Britain and that's without mentioning the contempt they have for Sterling.
Come on, we don't hate you guys. beer

Why would a company dependent on their customers for sales revenue ever hate them?

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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This thread, like many others, shows that giving people a referendum on complex issues is seriously unkind. People have shown that they need to be protected from their own lack of knowledge and intelligence.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Gaffaa said:
wemorgan said:
Gaffaa said:
It would be great that once we are officially out from the ghastly chains of the EU, VW, BMW, Mercedes and so on start developing N/A V6, V8 engines again specifically for the UK market,!
Haha you poor misinformed soul.
Oh look Marge! A poor , sad, left wing leftie who has 'hello darkness my old friend' on repeat. You lost, GET OVER IT.
Not everyone that voted in is a lefty. Is there any wonder people are so down about this when the main thing you're thinking about is having a massive capacity normally aspirated engine back under your bonnet. So fked up.

Edited by RenOHH on Sunday 26th June 11:14

Vitorio

4,296 posts

143 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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S0 What said:
Heard worse TBH, 1 old girl i do shopping for voted out cos the germans bombed her, no really, when i took her to vote that was her reason (shes 87) but then it was better than a customer on saterday who proudly proclaimed he voted out so he could once again eat small strawberrys, i really wish i was kidding rolleyes mind you he was in for missfueling his skoda , for the 3rd time this year rolleyes
rofl

That'll teach those evil EU brusselians, give me back my small strawberries!

Honestly, Referenda are fking stupid, this is the kind of st you get when asking uninformed idiots to make very big decisions.

Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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ORD said:
This thread, like many others, shows that giving people a referendum on complex issues is seriously unkind. People have shown that they need to be protected from their own lack of knowledge and intelligence.
I agree. Found this quote a while back:

A functioning, robust democracy requires a healthy educated, participatory followership, and an educated, morally grounded leadership.
(Chinua Achebe)

Pretty sure we didn't have the former and not entirely convinced we had the latter either.

babatunde

736 posts

190 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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ORD said:
This thread, like many others, shows that giving people a referendum on complex issues is seriously unkind. People have shown that they need to be protected from their own lack of knowledge and intelligence.
"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time"....

But one does wonder at times,banghead I presume OP has put down 2 deposits on the new TVR so he can flip 1

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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Gaffaa said:
wemorgan said:
Gaffaa said:
It would be great that once we are officially out from the ghastly chains of the EU, VW, BMW, Mercedes and so on start developing N/A V6, V8 engines again specifically for the UK market,!
Haha you poor misinformed soul.
Oh look Marge! A poor , sad, left wing leftie who has 'hello darkness my old friend' on repeat. You lost, GET OVER IT.
I'm afraid it's true. Cars sold in the UK will be built to EU standards because it wouldn't be economically viable to build UK specific cars. The products we want to build in the UK and export to the EU will still have to meet EU standards, we just won't have any more say in what those standards are.

There are already plenty of cars we don't get in the UK because, for example, it isn't economically viable to develop them in right hand drive format. Manufacturers aren't going to start building petrol guzzling, polar bear killing V10s just for the patriotic Brexit voters in the UK. The USA might have its own cars but it's a much bigger market than the UK is.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th June 2016
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CS Garth said:
Timbola said:
tomjol said:
Jesus fking christ, how thick can people get?

Develop new NA engines in limited numbers for the UK market...get a fking grip!
yes

Sums up this thread
Correct. Looking out over the forums the general summary is of the remainers having to explain simple economic consequences to a bunch of clucking bigoted anti foreigner brexiteers who are basically labelling everyone sore lefty losers who need to "deal with democracy".

I don't think every leaver is a thick nutter. But I know every thick nutter was a leaver. And in any situation it is these people who suffer most so I am unsure how they think their lives will be better.

Cue a load of abuse about being intellectual, leftie, a bad loser, patronising etc is the go to labels of the sub educated
This entirely. A significant reason the UK economy is so strong is due to strong financial services in the city. Of that reduces, the UK will be fked.