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Fairly serious fire after Changi Airport emergency landing of Singapore 777.
Was well going by the time they got down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jC-2NhU10Q
Was well going by the time they got down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jC-2NhU10Q
View from inside: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36637403
Hugo a Gogo said:
Why the hell were they still sitting on the plane happily filming it?
They had been asked to remain seated by the captain as it was the safest thing to do at that particular moment in time. Imagine if someone popped a door on the fire side... I doubt it was easy, but it was the correct call if there were no injuries.WinstonWolf said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
Why the hell were they still sitting on the plane happily filming it?
They had been asked to remain seated by the captain as it was the safest thing to do at that particular moment in time. Imagine if someone popped a door on the fire side... I doubt it was easy, but it was the correct call if there were no injuries.surveyor said:
It was a lucky call.... I'm sure I would not be comfortable sitting and watching the whole wing on fire. I've seen a couple of Facebook posts from Pilot's who are similarly surprised.
I was reading the same, but (and it's a big IF) if the first video is not cut or modified and the timings are correct then:- Plane came to a complete stop at 00:18 seconds
- First fire truck began spraying the wing area at 00:58 with others joining in the next 30 seconds.
can an evacuation take place at the same time as the plane is being sprayed?
IF not, then how long would an evacuation of a 777 require? how long would have the fire raged without control?
AlexIT said:
surveyor said:
It was a lucky call.... I'm sure I would not be comfortable sitting and watching the whole wing on fire. I've seen a couple of Facebook posts from Pilot's who are similarly surprised.
I was reading the same, but (and it's a big IF) if the first video is not cut or modified and the timings are correct then:- Plane came to a complete stop at 00:18 seconds
- First fire truck began spraying the wing area at 00:58 with others joining in the next 30 seconds.
can an evacuation take place at the same time as the plane is being sprayed?
IF not, then how long would an evacuation of a 777 require? how long would have the fire raged without control?
It's amusing to watch all the fire trucks turn out (carefully not going on the grass) then going steaming on past the blazing jet as if there's a bigger fire off screen to the right. Can these things not go in a straight line?
That fire took an awful lot of putting out!
That fire took an awful lot of putting out!
Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 27th June 14:15
Simpo Two said:
It's amusing to watch all the fire trucks turn out (carefully not going on the grass) then going steaming on past the blazing jet as if there's a bigger fire off screen to the right. Can these things not go in a straight line?
Not if there's a storm drain/ditch in the way! I seem to recall that there's a few dotted around the airfield there.Phew, good to see it turned out ok.
Someone on FB was saying "Another 777 fire" like they are making the point they are combusting all over the place, that is what 3, in 22 years ? as far as I am aware no fatalities that weren't caused by Pilot Error or Surface to Air Missiles, obviously MH 370 still remains unexplained but the aircraft itself doesn't seem to be the favoured cause.
Anyway, does seem to be a fantastic plane, anything I have read where pilots mention it, they love it.
Someone on FB was saying "Another 777 fire" like they are making the point they are combusting all over the place, that is what 3, in 22 years ? as far as I am aware no fatalities that weren't caused by Pilot Error or Surface to Air Missiles, obviously MH 370 still remains unexplained but the aircraft itself doesn't seem to be the favoured cause.
Anyway, does seem to be a fantastic plane, anything I have read where pilots mention it, they love it.
WinstonWolf said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
Why the hell were they still sitting on the plane happily filming it?
They had been asked to remain seated by the captain as it was the safest thing to do at that particular moment in time. Imagine if someone popped a door on the fire side... I doubt it was easy, but it was the correct call if there were no injuries.WinstonWolf said:
They had been asked to remain seated by the captain as it was the safest thing to do at that particular moment in time. Imagine if someone popped a door on the fire side... I doubt it was easy, but it was the correct call if there were no injuries.
Safest? Seriously? Correct call? Just so wrong buddy, im staggered you said that.I suspect said Captain will be in the deep doo doo.
As for opening the doors on the starboard side, the Cabin Crew are trained to look first before opening an exit. Its bloody common sense anyway.
Yes, you can still evacuate with the fire engines there. The passengers should have been piling out before they turned up anyway. Just keep out of their way.
Im shocked they didnt evacuate. Totally against all industry protocol.
Have a look at the Chinese B737. That fire started because of a missing washer on a leading edge slat from memory. Thank Heavens there were no casulties.
Unbusy said:
Safest? Seriously? Correct call? Just so wrong buddy, im staggered you said that.
I suspect said Captain will be in the deep doo doo.
As for opening the doors on the starboard side, the Cabin Crew are trained to look first before opening an exit. Its bloody common sense anyway.
Yes, you can still evacuate with the fire engines there. The passengers should have been piling out before they turned up anyway. Just keep out of their way.
Im shocked they didnt evacuate. Totally against all industry protocol.
Have a look at the Chinese B737. That fire started because of a missing washer on a leading edge slat from memory. Thank Heavens there were no casulties.
Yeh I'd say that's pretty much spot on. It is a tough call though, but really...plane on fire, everybody out, quick as you can. Potential smoke in the cabin can be game over, that's the real killer.I suspect said Captain will be in the deep doo doo.
As for opening the doors on the starboard side, the Cabin Crew are trained to look first before opening an exit. Its bloody common sense anyway.
Yes, you can still evacuate with the fire engines there. The passengers should have been piling out before they turned up anyway. Just keep out of their way.
Im shocked they didnt evacuate. Totally against all industry protocol.
Have a look at the Chinese B737. That fire started because of a missing washer on a leading edge slat from memory. Thank Heavens there were no casulties.
Have been in a situation like that, far less severe though.
Etihad Airbus out of Sydney to Abu Dhabi (the f1 liveried one). Engines started and the plane filled up with smoke. We were advised to stay put while,they worked out where the problem was. There was no evacuation, and they tried to restart 3 times with similar smoky effects in the cabin.
We stayed on board while they found the problem and fixed it, started clean and then flew 14 hours to Abu Dhabi. Got off to change planes and was looking forward to getting on a different one - nah, back on the same one for 7 more hours to Heathrow.
You just have to put your trust in them I guess. We are on a 777 to Jamaica on Monday... Won't show the OH that video till we get back
Etihad Airbus out of Sydney to Abu Dhabi (the f1 liveried one). Engines started and the plane filled up with smoke. We were advised to stay put while,they worked out where the problem was. There was no evacuation, and they tried to restart 3 times with similar smoky effects in the cabin.
We stayed on board while they found the problem and fixed it, started clean and then flew 14 hours to Abu Dhabi. Got off to change planes and was looking forward to getting on a different one - nah, back on the same one for 7 more hours to Heathrow.
You just have to put your trust in them I guess. We are on a 777 to Jamaica on Monday... Won't show the OH that video till we get back
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