RE: Volvo V90: Review
Discussion
vikingaero said:
But we all lease/pcp don't we?
It always amazes me how many of these £40k plus motors you see about. Whichever way you look at it that's a s
t load of money for a daily driver. I do count beans for a living but the thought of some ropey easy payment plan on this or the equivalent Beemer, audi, Merc etc sends shivers down my spine. Blackbird425 said:
It always amazes me how many of these £40k plus motors you see about. Whichever way you look at it that's a st load of money for a daily driver. I do count beans for a living but the thought of some ropey easy payment plan on this or the equivalent Beemer, audi, Merc etc sends shivers down my spine.
Lots are company / fleet cars - I've increasingly noticed that the 5-series / E-Class / A6 are very favourably priced compared with smaller cars - especially when you compare equipment lists. t load of money for a daily driver. I do count beans for a living but the thought of some ropey easy payment plan on this or the equivalent Beemer, audi, Merc etc sends shivers down my spine. 
IanCress said:
I think it's refreshing that a manufacturer has decided not to go down the sporty route and instead focus on comfort. Great looking car inside and out. I'd love a T8 but it will be priced way out of my league.
+1And I just don't get why a car biased for comfort can't be enjoyable to drive. It is a different, but equally rewarding experience, makes you attempting to be the 'smooth operator'.
DegsyE39 said:
As others have said handsome beast seats look fantastic too..
Wheres the 5,6 and 8 pots.. 2 tonne barge with a four banger no thanks.
Why not? A turbo 2-litre will produce the same power as a 5, 6 or 8 - but with better economy and emissions. These days, a 6 or 8 doesn't even sound great - BMW are using synthesised engine sounds in much of the multiple cylinder range now, as they're so quiet.Wheres the 5,6 and 8 pots.. 2 tonne barge with a four banger no thanks.
The future is moving towards triple and 4 pots with turbos and / or combined with hybrid power.
I drove 3 laps of Goodwood in an i8 at the weekend - did I know it was a hybrid with a small triple cylinder petrol? - no, I didn't. So why let it bother you?
optimal909 said:
IanCress said:
I think it's refreshing that a manufacturer has decided not to go down the sporty route and instead focus on comfort. Great looking car inside and out. I'd love a T8 but it will be priced way out of my league.
+1And I just don't get why a car biased for comfort can't be enjoyable to drive. It is a different, but equally rewarding experience, makes you attempting to be the 'smooth operator'.
Blackbird425 said:
£44k for a 2.0 litre diesel estate. My word, new cars have got expensive.
Dan_1981 said:
Agree with the last couple of posters.
It looks great, but £45k seems like an awful lot of money for a new Volvo.
No one pays list price for a Volvo (the new XC90 is the only exception) - getting circa 20% off a new Volvo isn't uncommon - you can already get around 8% off the new V90 (check the online brokers) and it's only been out 5 minutes.It looks great, but £45k seems like an awful lot of money for a new Volvo.
Give it 6 months and a 45k V90 will be available for around 35k which a lot more reasonable.
Mostly, I like it. Focusing on comfort rather than trying to make a two tonne car feel "sporty" sounds eminently sensible and it looks OK, although the front bumper seems a bit OTT compared to the rest of the styling... but surely anyone who's looking to buy a comfort focused estate is going to be thoroughly unimpressed by the lack of boot space?
Trabi601 said:
DegsyE39 said:
As others have said handsome beast seats look fantastic too..
Wheres the 5,6 and 8 pots.. 2 tonne barge with a four banger no thanks.
Why not? A turbo 2-litre will produce the same power as a 5, 6 or 8 - but with better economy and emissions. These days, a 6 or 8 doesn't even sound great - BMW are using synthesised engine sounds in much of the multiple cylinder range now, as they're so quiet.Wheres the 5,6 and 8 pots.. 2 tonne barge with a four banger no thanks.
The future is moving towards triple and 4 pots with turbos and / or combined with hybrid power.
I drove 3 laps of Goodwood in an i8 at the weekend - did I know it was a hybrid with a small triple cylinder petrol? - no, I didn't. So why let it bother you?
An xc90 drove past me about a month back actually and ive got to agree with the article as it sounded very strained... especially lugging such a large chunk of metal , Sounded like it was going to pop ( the thing was the size of a frigate mind) so the emissions might not be as rosy as they seem.
DegsyE39 said:
I doesnt bother me as such im just suprised that volvo have fitted what seems to be a goliath of a car with what is going to be a highly stressed not that adequate engine (in this version which isnt a hybrid) that even the reviewer admits lacks "smoothness and refinement'' in what purports to be a luxury car. Wouldnt be an issue if it was a fiesta for popping to the shops but its almost £50k...
An xc90 drove past me about a month back actually and ive got to agree with the article as it sounded very strained... especially lugging such a large chunk of metal , Sounded like it was going to pop ( the thing was the size of a frigate mind) so the emissions might not be as rosy as they seem.
I drive a 520d. It's smooth, refined, quiet, and never feels stressed.An xc90 drove past me about a month back actually and ive got to agree with the article as it sounded very strained... especially lugging such a large chunk of metal , Sounded like it was going to pop ( the thing was the size of a frigate mind) so the emissions might not be as rosy as they seem.
Many people seem to be very reactionary about the idea of a 4 pot turbo without having much experience of modern engines and cars.
Trabi601 said:
DegsyE39 said:
I doesnt bother me as such im just suprised that volvo have fitted what seems to be a goliath of a car with what is going to be a highly stressed not that adequate engine (in this version which isnt a hybrid) that even the reviewer admits lacks "smoothness and refinement'' in what purports to be a luxury car. Wouldnt be an issue if it was a fiesta for popping to the shops but its almost £50k...
An xc90 drove past me about a month back actually and ive got to agree with the article as it sounded very strained... especially lugging such a large chunk of metal , Sounded like it was going to pop ( the thing was the size of a frigate mind) so the emissions might not be as rosy as they seem.
I drive a 520d. It's smooth, refined, quiet, and never feels stressed.An xc90 drove past me about a month back actually and ive got to agree with the article as it sounded very strained... especially lugging such a large chunk of metal , Sounded like it was going to pop ( the thing was the size of a frigate mind) so the emissions might not be as rosy as they seem.
Many people seem to be very reactionary about the idea of a 4 pot turbo without having much experience of modern engines and cars.
I havent driven one granted, But the anguished cry of the one that drove past me told me all i need to know.
DegsyE39 said:
I dint say it lacked smoothness and refinement the chap reviewing it did, Im not saying that modern four pot engines are crap.. Im saying that in this instance a 6 pot would be markedly better
I havent driven one granted, But the anguished cry of the one that drove past me told me all i need to know.
I've got the old D5, it's a cracking engine and that extra cylinder does make a difference. It's smoother yet sounds distinctive when revved. It's a shame they didn't stick with it IMO but I suppose this is progress.I havent driven one granted, But the anguished cry of the one that drove past me told me all i need to know.
Rammy76 said:
DegsyE39 said:
I dint say it lacked smoothness and refinement the chap reviewing it did, Im not saying that modern four pot engines are crap.. Im saying that in this instance a 6 pot would be markedly better
I havent driven one granted, But the anguished cry of the one that drove past me told me all i need to know.
I've got the old D5, it's a cracking engine and that extra cylinder does make a difference. It's smoother yet sounds distinctive when revved. It's a shame they didn't stick with it IMO but I suppose this is progress.I havent driven one granted, But the anguished cry of the one that drove past me told me all i need to know.
I dont get ovlov though, They got yamaha to help them do the v8 for the last s80.. Why not collaborate to make a 6 pot for this? maybe with cylinder deactivation? i dunno..
DegsyE39 said:
Isnt it just i had a go in my mates C70 what a warble.. Ive not had a 5 pot its on the to do list
I dont get ovlov though, They got yamaha to help them do the v8 for the last s80.. Why not collaborate to make a 6 pot for this? maybe with cylinder deactivation? i dunno..
I agree, it injected a bit of excitement to the brand having a Yamaha developed V8 as well as their range of distinctive 5 cylinder engines. I find it a bit disappointing to think there will only be 4 cylinder petrol and diesels to choose from in the futureI dont get ovlov though, They got yamaha to help them do the v8 for the last s80.. Why not collaborate to make a 6 pot for this? maybe with cylinder deactivation? i dunno..
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