RE: Jaguar XFR: PH Buying Guide
Discussion
Perhaps not relevant: I owned an XF 3.0d for a while - 2009 reg. I had to have both rear door locks replaced as they stopped responding. Was expensive (as in over £500 with labour from a specialist). I was told this was a fairly common fault which I assume would potentially affect the R as well? Has no one suffered this issue? In any event, I am seriously considering an R as my daily now prices have dipped into the teens...
chrislloyd81 said:
I drove an XFR at the Gaydon test track and they definitely aren't limited to 155mph. I had an indicated 170mph on the straight
Also it was in 2010. A few years before the speed pack was available.
I drove an XFR at the Gaydon test track and they definitely aren't limited to 155mph. I had an indicated 170mph on the straight
fatboy b said:
Out of the box they are, but you could select a speed pack as an option. Read the article!
No. It didn't have the speed pack. It was a regular XFR. The Jaguar guy said it had a "soft limiter" whatever that means.Edited by fatboy b on Wednesday 29th June 19:51
Also it was in 2010. A few years before the speed pack was available.
Edited by chrislloyd81 on Thursday 30th June 13:16
Edited by chrislloyd81 on Thursday 30th June 13:21
Would love an XFR but they are not type approved for towing so I'm having to make do with the diesel XFS instead. 5.9 to 60 & 155 mean its no slouch. In fact its the same performance as my old XJR but superior in every way not least double the MPG. Mines needed a new battery & a suspension creak fixed in the 14 months I've owned it.
Walter Sobchak said:
Good value for such performance, I just don't think I'd be able to pick one over the bi turbo E63 though, as much as their good cars there's just something about Jags I find totally unappealing.
Each to their own I guess. I feel a similar way about Mercs. soulless & rather boring.Edited by fatboy b on Thursday 30th June 17:36
fatboy b said:
Walter Sobchak said:
Good value for such performance, I just don't think I'd be able to pick one over the bi turbo E63 though, as much as their good cars there's just something about Jags I find totally unappealing.
Each to their own I guess. I feel a similar way about Mercs. Soleless & rather boring.I had to choose between an XFR and an ISF in the end, both special cars but i couldn't live with the interior of the Lexus, the Jags is just lovely in Ivory with black headling.
I love my XFR (upgraded from an XFS this year)
Performance is staggering, especially mid range, and for a big car it handles really well. Lovely to drive either hard or easy. I don't find the ride excessively hard.
Fuel tank is small and on urban driving I see about 20mpg so plenty garage visits which is the main disadvantage.
On a longer motorway run 30mpg is achievable.
The engine is terrific and the sound is OK without changing the OEM exhausts. Drove to work in the OH car the other day and the first comment when I walked in the door was "didn't hear you driving in"
Can definitely recommend
Performance is staggering, especially mid range, and for a big car it handles really well. Lovely to drive either hard or easy. I don't find the ride excessively hard.
Fuel tank is small and on urban driving I see about 20mpg so plenty garage visits which is the main disadvantage.
On a longer motorway run 30mpg is achievable.
The engine is terrific and the sound is OK without changing the OEM exhausts. Drove to work in the OH car the other day and the first comment when I walked in the door was "didn't hear you driving in"
Can definitely recommend
philmots said:
fatboy b said:
Walter Sobchak said:
Good value for such performance, I just don't think I'd be able to pick one over the bi turbo E63 though, as much as their good cars there's just something about Jags I find totally unappealing.
Each to their own I guess. I feel a similar way about Mercs. Soleless & rather boring.I had to choose between an XFR and an ISF in the end, both special cars but i couldn't live with the interior of the Lexus, the Jags is just lovely in Ivory with black headling.
bigmuzzie,
Had my normally aspirated 5.0 V8 for the past two years (almost exactly). It's moved from 31,000 to 51,000 miles in my time. I consider it a keeper mainly because I cannot think of anything I want in its place.
You asked about MPG. I reckon all round I probably get around 23-25. I go from mid Surrey to Falmouth twice a year and I know that on such journeys I get close to 30 mpg. Off to Le Mans Classic next week and it'll be interesting to see what the mpg for the whole trip is, especially as my son will be sharing the driving!
As regards running costs, so far in the two years I've had the car nothing serious at all has occurred. The rear brakes were replaced at around 35,000, cost about £250. It's been serviced to schedule ie once a year in my case. 2015 cost was £275 for a bog standard service. 2016 was £616 but this was a standard service, plus new plugs all round as per schedule, plus wheel re-alignment I requested. So far I've not needed to fit new tyres anywhere: it came with a nearly new set when I acquired the car.
I think the most inefficient cost is annual road tax but that's the penalty for having a nice V8 I suppose.
R.
Had my normally aspirated 5.0 V8 for the past two years (almost exactly). It's moved from 31,000 to 51,000 miles in my time. I consider it a keeper mainly because I cannot think of anything I want in its place.
You asked about MPG. I reckon all round I probably get around 23-25. I go from mid Surrey to Falmouth twice a year and I know that on such journeys I get close to 30 mpg. Off to Le Mans Classic next week and it'll be interesting to see what the mpg for the whole trip is, especially as my son will be sharing the driving!
As regards running costs, so far in the two years I've had the car nothing serious at all has occurred. The rear brakes were replaced at around 35,000, cost about £250. It's been serviced to schedule ie once a year in my case. 2015 cost was £275 for a bog standard service. 2016 was £616 but this was a standard service, plus new plugs all round as per schedule, plus wheel re-alignment I requested. So far I've not needed to fit new tyres anywhere: it came with a nearly new set when I acquired the car.
I think the most inefficient cost is annual road tax but that's the penalty for having a nice V8 I suppose.
R.
Rearwheel said:
I really admire Jaguar, they have come a long way from the Mondeo.
My mrs still thinks the XF is a posh Mondeo to look at and in many ways I do see her point, it's the engine/performance I love the most about the XFR so I think that would be enough for me to turn a blind eye to its looks/origin. cerb4.5lee said:
My mrs still thinks the XF is a posh Mondeo to look at and in many ways I do see her point, it's the engine/performance I love the most about the XFR so I think that would be enough for me to turn a blind eye to its looks/origin.
You know it has no origins in the Mondeo don't you?fatboy b said:
cerb4.5lee said:
My mrs still thinks the XF is a posh Mondeo to look at and in many ways I do see her point, it's the engine/performance I love the most about the XFR so I think that would be enough for me to turn a blind eye to its looks/origin.
You know it has no origins in the Mondeo don't you?On the side-topic of the R-S, there are a few comments that it might be the logical successor in ownership terms from the R. It possibly isn't. It's definitely a less mature car. It seems to be considered a faster version of the XFR. It's not, it's a sharper, taughter version of the XFR. The ride quality does suffer but the car is much more agile. Unless you like to throw the car around, you're probably better sticking with the R.
fatboy b said:
cerb4.5lee said:
My mrs still thinks the XF is a posh Mondeo to look at and in many ways I do see her point, it's the engine/performance I love the most about the XFR so I think that would be enough for me to turn a blind eye to its looks/origin.
You know it has no origins in the Mondeo don't you?cerb4.5lee said:
fatboy b said:
cerb4.5lee said:
My mrs still thinks the XF is a posh Mondeo to look at and in many ways I do see her point, it's the engine/performance I love the most about the XFR so I think that would be enough for me to turn a blind eye to its looks/origin.
You know it has no origins in the Mondeo don't you?
fatboy b said:
cerb4.5lee said:
fatboy b said:
cerb4.5lee said:
My mrs still thinks the XF is a posh Mondeo to look at and in many ways I do see her point, it's the engine/performance I love the most about the XFR so I think that would be enough for me to turn a blind eye to its looks/origin.
You know it has no origins in the Mondeo don't you?cerb4.5lee said:
Appreciate they're not identical but the XF does remind me of the Mondeo, that single tailpipe on the boggo XF always makes me chuckle too and just looks so out of place after seeing XF's for years with one each side.
Agreed on the tailpipe - and yes I have snigger when I see one.philmots said:
fatboy b said:
Walter Sobchak said:
Good value for such performance, I just don't think I'd be able to pick one over the bi turbo E63 though, as much as their good cars there's just something about Jags I find totally unappealing.
Each to their own I guess. I feel a similar way about Mercs. Soleless & rather boring.I had to choose between an XFR and an ISF in the end, both special cars but i couldn't live with the interior of the Lexus, the Jags is just lovely in Ivory with black headling.
Which is a shame as I absolutely love the other side of JLR.
If I had to pick a car in this sector I'd be completely torn between the CLS63 and an RS7, although they're both a fair bit more money.
Walter S,
Your comment about colours is interesting. My XF is Emerald Fire....green to most people. I've had it two years and only seen one in the same colour. On Auto Trader's UK site there's only ever 2-3 for sale in the same colour out of 2000+ XFs. The S-Type and XK was available in a similar colour but again there were not that many of them ordered.
I see far more silver/black/grey/red and now increasingly white XFs than green. I've even had the occasional XF driver ask if mine was a special order colour (or maybe that's because it's the V8 5.0 normally aspirated model of which there's only a few in the UK and was only available to special order anyway).
R.
Your comment about colours is interesting. My XF is Emerald Fire....green to most people. I've had it two years and only seen one in the same colour. On Auto Trader's UK site there's only ever 2-3 for sale in the same colour out of 2000+ XFs. The S-Type and XK was available in a similar colour but again there were not that many of them ordered.
I see far more silver/black/grey/red and now increasingly white XFs than green. I've even had the occasional XF driver ask if mine was a special order colour (or maybe that's because it's the V8 5.0 normally aspirated model of which there's only a few in the UK and was only available to special order anyway).
R.
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