What car - goes like a scalded cat? (That's you've been in)

[*Al*]

My bike for me, once you've had bikes you'll realise. This is about cars though, I've driven a 997 turbo, that was fun. I also had a Impreza running 400 bhp.

[WD39]

Interesting how no-one 'pulled up' the poster that mentioned the Strada Abarth either.....despite it being no faster
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The Strada Abarth, one mother of a motor.

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I could go quite fast on my Raleigh Arena back then as well.
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The Releigh Arena, one mother of a bike.

[s m]

J4CKO said:

WD39 said:

s m said:

WD39 said:

vtecyo said:

WD39 said:

My old Corsa SRi 1.8.

Never failed to surprise me. Ferocious acceleration, bags of torque.

That was in my boy racer days, now I get honked and flashed for observing speed limits.

How times change, but fond memories of 'Kevin'.

Is that a serious response?

Please refer to the thread title.

Interesting how no-one 'pulled up' the poster that mentioned the Strada Abarth either.....despite it being no faster

The Strada Abarth, one mother of a motor.

I could go quite fast on my Raleigh Arena back then as well.

Those F1 cars......all slow....

[Some Gump]

Pax:
F40
Diablo
599
Exige

Driven:
R500
911 GT2

Scariest drive ever? XK120, by a mile. Pushing on in that thing made all those above feel calm!

[mikearwas]

J4CKO said:

k-ink said:

J4CKO said:

k-ink said:

J4CKO said:

I still find my CLS to be pretty vigorous, the 350Z was brisk but this feels a lot quicker, next one will be a CLS63

What model do you have? I had the 500. I bought it to be smooth and quiet, but it was surprisingly rapid. I guess the wall of torque does that.

CLS 500 but the later 5.5 with 388 bhp and 391 lb/ft, would be interested to try the AMG ones to see how much faster/different they are.

I only had the 5.0. Your engine sounds like a real sweet spot in barge engines: smooth, plenty of power, yet none of the complexity of a supercharger or turbos.

Didn't they put this engine in the C lass and CLK for a short while too? They must shift! No need to go AMG really.

It turned up in a handful of CLK's, ML's, E classes and S Classes, as far as I am aware it never made it into the C Class, it was more potent that previous generation AMG stuff and I guess showed where the AMG power outputs were heading, where getting on for 400 bhp used to warrant an AMG badge, it is now just a cooking variant figure, though I know there is more to the AMG stuff than just power output, its suspension, brakes, exhausts and the way the engine is tuned, not just what it churns out, though I quite the big power but no big deal thing.

This thread alerted me to its existence, if RS6 owners are astonished by how quick it is then its probably fairly rapid was my thinking, especially for the money, and its a rather nice car as well, got to work within my means, which for another couple of years are limited by kids !

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=111...

Would love to try the CLS AMG versions though, but part of me thinks it may be the law of diminishing returns, another 80 bhp for the 55, more complexity, the cars are older and more expensive, probably in a lot of cases had a harder life, dearer brakes and stuff and realistically, how much quicker is it and if it is, how much quicker do I need to go, to be hones the CLS is more of a fast cruiser, it isnt a sports car

Edited by J4CKO on Friday 1st July 14:12

I've been in both a CLS500 and a CLS55 and own a C63. The CLS500 is quick, the 55 is an absolute animal. Try one.

[morgrp]

Porsche 997 Turbo

and suprised by it "wow that feels quick" - the twin-charged Skoda Fabia VRS

[J4CKO]

mikearwas said:

J4CKO said:

k-ink said:

J4CKO said:

k-ink said:

J4CKO said:

I still find my CLS to be pretty vigorous, the 350Z was brisk but this feels a lot quicker, next one will be a CLS63

What model do you have? I had the 500. I bought it to be smooth and quiet, but it was surprisingly rapid. I guess the wall of torque does that.

CLS 500 but the later 5.5 with 388 bhp and 391 lb/ft, would be interested to try the AMG ones to see how much faster/different they are.

I only had the 5.0. Your engine sounds like a real sweet spot in barge engines: smooth, plenty of power, yet none of the complexity of a supercharger or turbos.

Didn't they put this engine in the C lass and CLK for a short while too? They must shift! No need to go AMG really.

It turned up in a handful of CLK's, ML's, E classes and S Classes, as far as I am aware it never made it into the C Class, it was more potent that previous generation AMG stuff and I guess showed where the AMG power outputs were heading, where getting on for 400 bhp used to warrant an AMG badge, it is now just a cooking variant figure, though I know there is more to the AMG stuff than just power output, its suspension, brakes, exhausts and the way the engine is tuned, not just what it churns out, though I quite the big power but no big deal thing.

This thread alerted me to its existence, if RS6 owners are astonished by how quick it is then its probably fairly rapid was my thinking, especially for the money, and its a rather nice car as well, got to work within my means, which for another couple of years are limited by kids !

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=111...

Would love to try the CLS AMG versions though, but part of me thinks it may be the law of diminishing returns, another 80 bhp for the 55, more complexity, the cars are older and more expensive, probably in a lot of cases had a harder life, dearer brakes and stuff and realistically, how much quicker is it and if it is, how much quicker do I need to go, to be hones the CLS is more of a fast cruiser, it isnt a sports car

Edited by J4CKO on Friday 1st July 14:12

I've been in both a CLS500 and a CLS55 and own a C63. The CLS500 is quick, the 55 is an absolute animal. Try one.

Was the 500 the 5.0 or the 5.5 ?

[LarJammer]

Aston v8 vantage - pretty quick and friendly with it.
Audi r8 v10 - very rapid but somehow cold.
Nissan gtr 600bhp - properly properly fast with astonishing cornering.
Ferrari f430 - what a noise but felt like it was only pretending to like me and would stab me in the back at the first opportunity.
Porsche 996 turbo - bonkers point to point pace as long as respect was given.
997 turbo - devestatingly quick but felt like ultimately a crash was inevitable unless you are L. Hamilton.
Vauxhall vxr8 600bhp - starship acceleration but every bump was an enemy. All the gear but no idea.

The biggest issue with all of them is the speed at with you close on other traffic (should you choose to use the power).

[ZX10R NIN]

J4CKO said:

mikearwas said:

J4CKO said:

k-ink said:

J4CKO said:

k-ink said:

J4CKO said:

I still find my CLS to be pretty vigorous, the 350Z was brisk but this feels a lot quicker, next one will be a CLS63

What model do you have? I had the 500. I bought it to be smooth and quiet, but it was surprisingly rapid. I guess the wall of torque does that.

CLS 500 but the later 5.5 with 388 bhp and 391 lb/ft, would be interested to try the AMG ones to see how much faster/different they are.

I only had the 5.0. Your engine sounds like a real sweet spot in barge engines: smooth, plenty of power, yet none of the complexity of a supercharger or turbos.

Didn't they put this engine in the C lass and CLK for a short while too? They must shift! No need to go AMG really.

It turned up in a handful of CLK's, ML's, E classes and S Classes, as far as I am aware it never made it into the C Class, it was more potent that previous generation AMG stuff and I guess showed where the AMG power outputs were heading, where getting on for 400 bhp used to warrant an AMG badge, it is now just a cooking variant figure, though I know there is more to the AMG stuff than just power output, its suspension, brakes, exhausts and the way the engine is tuned, not just what it churns out, though I quite the big power but no big deal thing.

This thread alerted me to its existence, if RS6 owners are astonished by how quick it is then its probably fairly rapid was my thinking, especially for the money, and its a rather nice car as well, got to work within my means, which for another couple of years are limited by kids !

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=111...

Would love to try the CLS AMG versions though, but part of me thinks it may be the law of diminishing returns, another 80 bhp for the 55, more complexity, the cars are older and more expensive, probably in a lot of cases had a harder life, dearer brakes and stuff and realistically, how much quicker is it and if it is, how much quicker do I need to go, to be hones the CLS is more of a fast cruiser, it isnt a sports car

Edited by J4CKO on Friday 1st July 14:12

I've been in both a CLS500 and a CLS55 and own a C63. The CLS500 is quick, the 55 is an absolute animal. Try one.

Was the 500 the 5.0 or the 5.5 ?

It was both the earlier ones were 5.0 & once the CLS63 was introduced they became 5.5

[AdamIndy]

scubadude said:

I've seen non-car people be pretty calm in a 4-5second to 60 saloon, but put them in a similarly quick lightweight with their arse 2" from the road, no windscreen and an exhaust a foot from their ear and launch it down a country lane with bees bouncing off their forehead and they think its like being fired from a cannon.

This is very true!

To me, my kit needs more power. Me and a mate went out in it for an afternoon a couple of weeks back, he's usually really chatty. We were on a road I know extremely well so I was pressing on, not anywhere near what the car is capable of but just enjoying it. I noticed he was very quiet! I also noticed his knuckles were actually white hanging onto the side of the seat! It was one of those times I wish I had a camera facing him.

Got back to my place and his first words were "fkING HELL that car is savage! I saw 8*mph round one corner!" It was only 60 though obviously.

He is used to quickish cars having owned the likes of 106gti's, 306 GTi6's etc but stick him in a road going go-kart, looking up into other cars wheel arches and to him at least, it's ballistic. Where as I think it needs at least another 50bhp.

[1Addicted]

The most scalded-cat going car I've been in was a MK3 Ford Escort RS Turbo Series 2 modified to produce 280bhp, so the owner told me. I couldn't disbelieve him, as the thing was absolutely nuts, with proper "oldskool" turbo delivery of nothing, nothing, GONE! I don't know what one weights but I am guessing it was light even before he removed some interior.

That's probably the only car I've been in that felt truly scary, but it is closely followed by a 600bhp R33 GTR locked in the RWD position and an 850bhp V10 Audi RS6 down some country lanes. I don't really feel like the R35 GTR's I've been in feel the same, or scary even with 700bhp, I just felt removed although I knew they were quick. I can say the same for the RS6 too actually, as even though it was insane, the computerisation seemingly wouldn't let it crash at points you knew you'd be dead in anything RWD.

Somewhere close is a C63 (6.2) actually, but with manifold-back exhaust system and approx. 560bhp. That was just relentless at accelerating and just got better the closer you got to redline, yet with masses of torque from idle. That felt scary at times, a proper brutal RWD car that let you turn off the computers. That's the most fun car I think, Jekyll & Hyde type beast, and it went like poop off of a shovel.

[moffat]

Had a passenger ride in an Ultima GTR and it was laugh out loud fast!!

Fastest cars that I have driven are:

- SLS 30 minute test drive with a sales guy who had 'no rules' crazy car in Sport+
- E63S 30 minute test drive - one of the best cars I have driven
- Jonathan Palmer Caterham at Bedford
- Jonathan Palmer Porsche 911 at Bedford

My own...
- C63 AMG Coupe (my old car) which was totally bonkers above 90mph and my favourite car ever

Not that fast, but I remember how crazy it felt when I drove the Honda S2000 for the first time, I changed up at 6k rpm first of all and the sales guy said why did I change gear... then he told me to hold to 9k and it was pretty insane doing that for the first time through 2nd and 3rd gear.

[s m]

1Addicted said:

The most scalded-cat going car I've been in was a MK3 Ford Escort RS Turbo Series 2 modified to produce 280bhp, so the owner told me. I couldn't disbelieve him, as the thing was absolutely nuts, with proper "oldskool" turbo delivery of nothing, nothing, GONE! I don't know what one weights but I am guessing it was light even before he removed some interior.

Around 1015kgs

[Riley Blue]

I once drove David Sutton's Sport Quattro and described it as being 'like a heat-seeking ferret' - it was too

[toasty]

s m said:

1Addicted said:

The most scalded-cat going car I've been in was a MK3 Ford Escort RS Turbo Series 2 modified to produce 280bhp, so the owner told me. I couldn't disbelieve him, as the thing was absolutely nuts, with proper "oldskool" turbo delivery of nothing, nothing, GONE! I don't know what one weights but I am guessing it was light even before he removed some interior.

Around 1015kgs

I was going to say RS Turbo. It may not have been the quickest but it felt fast.

[Shakermaker]

I had a passenger ride in a mate's old Mk2 Astra GTE with a modified C20 LET under the bonnet, around 280bhp. That thing was fast, and light. Really picked up speed like nothing else I had ever been in at that time.

Same mate sold it and bought a more sensible dad-wagon, a modified Audi S4 (a T reg, not sure what variant that makes it) which had close to 400bhp which again, was stonkingly quick compared to my own cars of the time.

Of what I have owned, the only seriously fast car has been my M635CSi which had a 3.8 transplanted in to it. That was fast, and loud.

[Limpet]

I had an hour in a 335d M-Sport Touring at the weekend. Probably the fastest point-to-point car I have ever driven. The combination of the torque, X-Drive and that brilliant ZF8 gearbox makes it a hell of a road car. 0-62 in 4.8 secs isn't exactly shabby, but the way the performance was delivered, and the sheer accessibility and usability of it makes it feel truly satisfyingly fast on the road. Stick it in Sport, plant the throttle, and it just squats and buggers off. And the thrust keeps coming into completely illegal speeds. No drama, no fuss.

Of course, it's nowhere near the fastest, most interactive or engaging drivers car out there, but in terms of sheer accessible, useable, satisfying thrust, I've never driven anything quite like it.

[anonymous-user]

Some interesting cars, perception of speed is an interesting thing though and all relative. As a passenger, an Yamaha R1 engined Westfield was hilarious, must have covered 50+ miles in and out of central Bristol late one night, sideways at every roundabout and then just blatting it down the roads. A few mentions of bike engined cars already, they are just so fast, I think a lot is to do with the high rev band as well which encourages the driver to "press on" and keep it in the power band. As a driver, a 250cc gearbox kart takes some beating.... the speed differential compared to Rotaxs, TKMs etc was just unreal.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 7th July 13:05

[cerb4.5lee]

1Addicted said:

The most scalded-cat going car I've been in was a MK3 Ford Escort RS Turbo Series 2 modified to produce 280bhp, so the owner told me. I couldn't disbelieve him, as the thing was absolutely nuts, with proper "oldskool" turbo delivery of nothing, nothing, GONE! I don't know what one weights but I am guessing it was light even before he removed some interior.

That was very similar to me and a guy I knew had the same car running about 240bhp and I just couldn't believe how quick it felt in the passenger seat, we had a race off the lights with a Mazda RX7 and he even missed a gear and we still blitzed it!!

I will never forget how quick that car felt to me.

[phil4]

Atom 3.5 310 - Start in 2nd (1st is a waste of time), and give it the beans and hold on. A complete assault on the senses, not least your hearing.

My bikes not exactly slow in comparison either.