Cars where the heart says 'yes' but the head says 'hell no'

Cars where the heart says 'yes' but the head says 'hell no'

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Muzzer79

9,948 posts

187 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Ste1987 said:
RX8 for me. Love how they look and how cheap they are, but the reliability issues? Awww hell nawww!
Good shout

If they'd built an RX8 with a remotely sensible engine, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

williamp

19,256 posts

273 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Matt Harper said:
Mr Teddy Bear said:
Liquid Tuna said:
I'd love one of these. Cheap enough to buy, but I hear they're not even slightly reliable.

Don't touch one of those things with a barge pole; unless you have VERY deep pockets, find it funny to be locked out by the vehicles security system, don't mind the thing refusing to start because there is interference with the fob signal. I could go on and on. Just noooooooooooo. Oh and own your own oil well.
Concur - mine was the most god awfully unreliable car I've ever owned. Mine locked me out a few times too - but the main (seemingly uncorrectable) fault was the air suspension which failed repeatedly. Driving the POS in 'limp-home mode' weeks after spending a bloody fortune on a new valve body and actuators signaled its demise for me. I felt a genuine sense of relief the day I off-loaded it.
Yes but look at it: it looks great, with a lovely comfortable interior. I would.... (well, a RR classic with the 3.9 and the latter dash, but you know what I mean)

Sway

26,271 posts

194 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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don4l said:
My daily driver.

It can be great fun when someone in a flash car tries it on.

It is also supremely useful if you spend a lot of time in the countryside.
I think I love you. Or at least am willing to be adopted...

Any room for a semi house trained 34yo with decent sense of humour and a similar political outlook?

For me, the RX7. I adore them. Have driven a few, including on track. Twin turbo, big single, don't care. All sublime, and wrapped in possibly the most beautiful body of the 90s. Several times I've had the money, I've had the motivation, yet I just cannot actually hand cash over and sign the V5. Something in my hindbrain prevents it.

Same goes for a Speed Six TVR, especially the T350. Similar story to the RX7, except more variable between individual cars that purport to be 'stock'. Always have a niggling feeling there's an even better one around the corner, and that 30k miles a year in one would bankrupt me...

tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Probably not to everyone's taste but I have a hankering to build a hot rod, found a donor car and a suitable builder, now just need to pull the trigger. However, the overall cost is looking like I could trade in the GTS and buy a McLaren and have some change....

Falsey

449 posts

139 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Budget to get into a fairly recent 911 of some sort, I fear not budget to keep one running for very long..

One day.

tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Falsey said:
Budget to get into a fairly recent 911 of some sort, I fear not budget to keep one running for very long..

One day.
Unless you have DMS issues then running costs can be surprisingly low. In 4 years of ownership I only needed tyres and servicing on my 997 GTS, I also had a rear set of discs but think I got scammed a bit by the OPC and could have just had them skimmed.

phib

4,464 posts

259 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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addz86 said:
I've wasted so much time lusting over these on eBay

I spend so much time lusting over these, then so much time restoring one ( and money !!) then couldn't wait to get rid of it !!!!

However I love my defender 50th !!!

Phib

WJNB

2,637 posts

161 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Any 'E' Type Jaguar & early Aston Martins. Overpriced, darn uncomfortable & unreliable.
AM owners have only two interest in life, themselves & their car(s).

Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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tuffer said:
Probably not to everyone's taste but I have a hankering to build a hot rod, found a donor car and a suitable builder, now just need to pull the trigger. However, the overall cost is looking like I could trade in the GTS and buy a McLaren and have some change....
The simple answer is do it yourself !

If you bought a frame you could just bolt it together (suspension etc), hell some of the frames come as rollers nowadays, the rest is just a case of bolting the rest of it together. Sub out the paint/interior and you're done.
Sure, if you want a top quality car you might decide you need the skills of a builder, but you can build one at home.

Or buy a finished car and just repaint/trim/change wheels etc to suit your taste. In all honesty thats the much cheaper way of doing it.


0llie

3,007 posts

196 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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addz86 said:
I've wasted so much time lusting over these on eBay

Do it. I love mine, wouldn't be without it, even after spending £340 on two rear window rubbers today hehe

exgtt

2,067 posts

212 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Pulsar GTI-r back when they were 10 a penny. Even seeing one sideways savagely boosting its way around a rounabout wasn't enough. Gearboxes, bottom ends and an engine bay packed in a way that made small jobs so bloody arkward. Then they started to rust, big time.

Should have bought one, mind, still regret it to this day.

Others, P38 rangie, B5 S4, the twin turbo V8 RS6 and strangely the original Merc A class, I really like em but too much woe!

Edited by exgtt on Friday 1st July 18:31

don4l

10,058 posts

176 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Sway said:
don4l said:
My daily driver.

It can be great fun when someone in a flash car tries it on.

It is also supremely useful if you spend a lot of time in the countryside.
I think I love you. Or at least am willing to be adopted...

Any room for a semi house trained 34yo with decent sense of humour and a similar political outlook?

For me, the RX7. I adore them. Have driven a few, including on track. Twin turbo, big single, don't care. All sublime, and wrapped in possibly the most beautiful body of the 90s. Several times I've had the money, I've had the motivation, yet I just cannot actually hand cash over and sign the V5. Something in my hindbrain prevents it.

Same goes for a Speed Six TVR, especially the T350. Similar story to the RX7, except more variable between individual cars that purport to be 'stock'. Always have a niggling feeling there's an even better one around the corner, and that 30k miles a year in one would bankrupt me...
Thank you!

If you haven't watched this YouTube, I think that you will enjoy it. 1:40 is particularly good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inG28b-b82k

I don't regret going with the heart. My wife, although initially anti, now understands that we are very lucky, and she would be heartbroken if we had to sell either of them.


daveco

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4,125 posts

207 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Kierkegaard said:
I would love a Mercedes SL R230, especially the SL55 AMG...

...but, the thought of the sheer expense if anything went wrong with it...which would be a leaking roof, potentially failed & pricey to replace ECUs, pricey ABC suspension failure, SBC brake failure and just the generally flakey build of an early 2000s Mercedes.

Head says no, hell no! But heart pines for one!
My father had an '03 SL500 and just about everything you mention above went wrong with it over the space of two years. He'd often come out to find the car leaning badly to one side from ABC failure, the roof leaking and the battery unable to hold charge. It also went into limp home mode at the slightest whiff of being driven properly.

When it worked it was great, but that wasn't often.

eltax91

9,872 posts

206 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Currently for me, today that looks like a 996. Heart wants one so much, head can't get past IMS bearing failure. I just think every time I drove it i would be listening for death.

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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addz86 said:
I've wasted so much time lusting over these on eBay

Had mine just over 12months now after I succumb to the lust. Slow and has cost about 50p a mile in repairs so far (ABS/TC lights are a familiar sight).

Drags the trailer well, can kip in the back, slushbox means a relaxing drive (unless you want to get out of a junction a bit quick). Does about 30mpg (300TDi) and is a lovely place to be while you are "looking down on the riff raff".

Completely classless too, it fits in whether I turn up in it covered in mud with my scuffs on or clean when suited and booted. Financially not my brightest move but very glad I've got it biggrin

DON'T go looking on the Range Rover Classic thread that is floating around on here wink

tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Crafty_ said:
tuffer said:
Probably not to everyone's taste but I have a hankering to build a hot rod, found a donor car and a suitable builder, now just need to pull the trigger. However, the overall cost is looking like I could trade in the GTS and buy a McLaren and have some change....
The simple answer is do it yourself !

If you bought a frame you could just bolt it together (suspension etc), hell some of the frames come as rollers nowadays, the rest is just a case of bolting the rest of it together. Sub out the paint/interior and you're done.
Sure, if you want a top quality car you might decide you need the skills of a builder, but you can build one at home.

Or buy a finished car and just repaint/trim/change wheels etc to suit your taste. In all honesty thats the much cheaper way of doing it.
No time, space or tools. Besides, I want it to be finished, safe and of decent quality. I could achieve none of those smile

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Citroen SM
Alfa Montreal...

Crafty_

13,284 posts

200 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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tuffer said:
No time, space or tools. Besides, I want it to be finished, safe and of decent quality. I could achieve none of those smile
Fair enough. The buy and (get someone else to) re-do is probably your best route. Who did you tap up as a builder out of interest ?

mikefacel

610 posts

188 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Maserati 3200. I keep looking but always bottle it.

golfer19

1,565 posts

133 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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mikefacel said:
Maserati 3200. I keep looking but always bottle it.
Same for me.
Great looking car.