Cars where the heart says 'yes' but the head says 'hell no'
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I've risked "head says no" cars a couple of times - Lancia Integrale and FD3S RX7 and neither bit my wallet, although I must admit I sold the RX7 prematurely (i.e. I wasn't bored of it and still really enjoyed driving it) because I figured I had ridden my luck long enough and it was time for someone else to take a gamble!
Oddly, the biggest wallet raping I've had came courtesy of a '1970 Mustang - you know the sort of thing always being described as bullet proof mechanically. Yup that needed a £3k engine rebuild, although I did recover 1/3 of that from the vendor, eventually.
I guess my current fleet has plenty of bork potential and all are capable of throwing big bills my way. That said, having a choice of several cars available does allow the luxury of time when deciding how to resolve a mechanical issue and this often allows a good deal of cost to be mitigated whether that is down to me having the time to do the work, or simply being able to wait for parts to turn up at the "right" price.
I think that when the cost of "one car or two" (or more) discussions take place here and elsewhere, this is one of the benefits of multiple ownership that is often missed, simply because it can't easily be quantified until after the event...
I've digressed slightly, so back to the OP's question - heart yes, head no - Audi S8.
Oddly, the biggest wallet raping I've had came courtesy of a '1970 Mustang - you know the sort of thing always being described as bullet proof mechanically. Yup that needed a £3k engine rebuild, although I did recover 1/3 of that from the vendor, eventually.
I guess my current fleet has plenty of bork potential and all are capable of throwing big bills my way. That said, having a choice of several cars available does allow the luxury of time when deciding how to resolve a mechanical issue and this often allows a good deal of cost to be mitigated whether that is down to me having the time to do the work, or simply being able to wait for parts to turn up at the "right" price.
I think that when the cost of "one car or two" (or more) discussions take place here and elsewhere, this is one of the benefits of multiple ownership that is often missed, simply because it can't easily be quantified until after the event...
I've digressed slightly, so back to the OP's question - heart yes, head no - Audi S8.
Pretty much every car on Judas PH garage list (I'm too lazy to put them all on mine)
(Alfa GTVs, Jags, Ferarri, MGs, Range Rover, TVRs, big engined German barges, old school Mini, Bentley, Porsches).
However we have had huge fun with these things over the years, met loads of people and made great friends.
(Alfa GTVs, Jags, Ferarri, MGs, Range Rover, TVRs, big engined German barges, old school Mini, Bentley, Porsches).However we have had huge fun with these things over the years, met loads of people and made great friends.
Speed addicted said:
And another one, I've watched prices fall into the completely affordable end of the spectrum but I know it would break expensively. I'm not someone that can live with niggles so I'd need to spend a fortune on upkeep.
All classic cars have niggles , if it runs ,the wheels still go round and it stops get in it and go , if it rattles buy a louder radio Scientific fact, a louder radio is the cure for all squeaks and rattles
wack said:
All classic cars have niggles , if it runs ,the wheels still go round and it stops get in it and go , if it rattles buy a louder radio
Scientific fact, a louder radio is the cure for all squeaks and rattles
It doesn't drown out the dreaded "phantom" noise though. They're both the scariest and loudest Scientific fact, a louder radio is the cure for all squeaks and rattles
(AKA the "I don't remember hearing that before" noise!)
Edited by Leins on Saturday 2nd July 20:18
Feeling brave? 600bhp Mercedes for potentially £10k...
http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-08...
http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-08...
Alpina B10 BiTurbo - the daddy saloon of the late 1980's; even though I'm half-way to competent with a bag of spanners a thread on forum5 drove enough fear into me with tales of Bork after Bork.
E61 BMW M5 Touring - too many tales of the red cog of death.
E61 Alpina B5 Touring - supercharger bork with super-charged bills.
E61 BMW M5 Touring - too many tales of the red cog of death.
E61 Alpina B5 Touring - supercharger bork with super-charged bills.
exgtt said:
Pulsar GTI-r back when they were 10 a penny. Even seeing one sideways savagely boosting its way around a rounabout wasn't enough. Gearboxes, bottom ends and an engine bay packed in a way that made small jobs so bloody arkward. Then they started to rust, big time.
Should have bought one, mind, still regret it to this day.
Others, P38 rangie, B5 S4, the twin turbo V8 RS6 and strangely the original Merc A class, I really like em but too much woe!
Friend of mine bought a Pulsar GTI-r for probably £6-7000 I think about 10 years ago.Should have bought one, mind, still regret it to this day.
Others, P38 rangie, B5 S4, the twin turbo V8 RS6 and strangely the original Merc A class, I really like em but too much woe!
Edited by exgtt on Friday 1st July 18:31
Not heavily tuned but it just kept breaking and he just kept sticking cash into it in some stubborn pride matter thereby turning a £7000 car into a £27,000 car. Still has it and just can't let go as he perpetually tries to get it right.
Probably worth less than £5k now.
Terzo123 said:
E39 M5 for me. I had lusted after them for years, and when I had the funds went out and bought a Monaro VXR because it came with a warranty.
I've done both, the M5 was wallet destroying. The Monaro didn't have a warranty, but it wasn't too bad costs wise. Dare I say it, also a better car IMO 
Edited by AClownsPocket on Sunday 3rd July 16:15
I was recently very nearly tempted to buy a 156 GTA. I owned a 156 Veloce before and it was very reliable to the fact in 4 years nothing major went wrong. I don't know why I didnt buy it in the end, maybe the fact I would need it as daily didn't help and I would rather own one as a weekend warrior.
I ended up buying a Volvo in the end, I suppose that says it all lol. It was an R design thou and its very practical being an estate (As if I just said that)
I ended up buying a Volvo in the end, I suppose that says it all lol. It was an R design thou and its very practical being an estate (As if I just said that)
Easternlight said:
Muzzer79 said:
Ste1987 said:
RX8 for me. Love how they look and how cheap they are, but the reliability issues? Awww hell nawww!
Good shoutIf they'd built an RX8 with a remotely sensible engine, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
you've made me google engine swaps for RX8's all afternoon. blearyeyedboy said:
Easternlight said:
Muzzer79 said:
Ste1987 said:
RX8 for me. Love how they look and how cheap they are, but the reliability issues? Awww hell nawww!
Good shoutIf they'd built an RX8 with a remotely sensible engine, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
you've made me google engine swaps for RX8's all afternoon. TankRizzo said:
Don't bloody believe it 
Given that im currently still rather scared of my Twinspark engine (will it throw a rod? has the previous owner done well with the oil?), a V6 should be more reliable/less worrisome, but more money to keep rightAnd otherwise a GTA isnt that special compared to any other 147 right? Beefed up brakes/ARBs and wider tires etc..
And honestly, GTVs dont feel that special to me, where as a 147 GTA, if kept in good nick will probably be worth more in five years then it is now.
I'm getting a bit twitchy after reading this thread as we own an old RR (L322) and a timing-chained Audi A4.
Heart would say yes to a 69 Dodge Charger but I'd hate the attention – and I don't think I could get it on our drive (it's opens onto a very narrow road with a brick wall opposite).
Where both heart and head are in agreement the possibililtes include an Integrale and an Alfa Romeo SZ. Just need Wallet to get into alignment too.
Heart would say yes to a 69 Dodge Charger but I'd hate the attention – and I don't think I could get it on our drive (it's opens onto a very narrow road with a brick wall opposite).
Where both heart and head are in agreement the possibililtes include an Integrale and an Alfa Romeo SZ. Just need Wallet to get into alignment too.
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