RE: Revised Toyota GT86 on the way

RE: Revised Toyota GT86 on the way

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ChrisDogDiggety

16 posts

122 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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They could at least put a revised 1JZ in to give people a powerful base to work on if they want people to do the "finishing touches".

The money saved from adding power can be used to get rid of those GOD AWFUL WHEELS.


edit: I reckon they knew the drifting and modified scenes would be see there potential, it's just a shame they don't team up to design performance packages.
Lexus LFAs are a rich mans drift car. I really love the Japanese.

Edited by ChrisDogDiggety on Thursday 14th July 21:50

Leejay-B

93 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Wheels as standard look shocking.

But I think they are light, and actually look quite nice if sprayed one single colour rather than the two tone mess.

All black is good... Going to look for pics...

Leejay-B

93 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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ChrisDogDiggety

16 posts

122 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Not bad, but they blend in a bit too much with the rest of the car. The darkest colour wheel I'll go is darker metallic greys.

A gash wheel will always look gash in person no matter what colour.

Edit: must. remember. paragraphs.

Edited by ChrisDogDiggety on Thursday 14th July 22:21

cerb4.5lee

30,517 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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DoubleD said:
Yeah, the M135i is just a fast engine in a decent chassis,
I am a fan of the M135i(other than looks) as a package but I am led to believe its a cracking engine but the chassis lets the side down a fair bit though, which saddens me if it's true because the 3 series chassis is regarded fairly highly, so it surprises me that the more exciting 1 series(on paper) gets it so wrong.

braddo

10,460 posts

188 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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cerb4.5lee said:
DoubleD said:
Yeah, the M135i is just a fast engine in a decent chassis,
I am a fan of the M135i(other than looks) as a package but I am led to believe its a cracking engine but the chassis lets the side down a fair bit though, which saddens me if it's true because the 3 series chassis is regarded fairly highly, so it surprises me that the more exciting 1 series(on paper) gets it so wrong.
I've seen reports on PH of it being numb and dull to drive, and people getting rid of them as a consequence. That's not to say they can't be turned into something more engaging and there's obviously no doubt they're very quick.

Engaging - GT86
Fast (and more expensive) - M135i

It's great to have choice.

Richyvrlimited

1,825 posts

163 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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ChrisDogDiggety said:
Not bad, but they blend in a bit too much with the rest of the car. The darkest colour wheel I'll go is darker metallic greys.

A gash wheel will always look gash in person no matter what colour.

Edit: must. remember. paragraphs.

Edited by ChrisDogDiggety on Thursday 14th July 22:21
Silver works better IMO





I think the issues people have with the interior on the 86 are a bit 1st world problems. I've come from 10+ years in MK1 and Mk2 MX5's, the 86's interior, NVH etc etc is a world away from those.

nickfrog

21,123 posts

217 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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cerb4.5lee said:
I am a fan of the M135i(other than looks) as a package but I am led to believe its a cracking engine but the chassis lets the side down a fair bit though, which saddens me if it's true because the 3 series chassis is regarded fairly highly, so it surprises me that the more exciting 1 series(on paper) gets it so wrong.
It doesn't getting wrong at all - drive it and make your own mind up - BMW were criticised for how harsh the previous generation was - now they react and make it more supple yet fairly cleverly damped (by OE damper standards), and now people moan that it rolls a bit...

As I said before, a £300 pair of M4 lower control arms improves the car further.


cerb4.5lee

30,517 posts

180 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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nickfrog said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I am a fan of the M135i(other than looks) as a package but I am led to believe its a cracking engine but the chassis lets the side down a fair bit though, which saddens me if it's true because the 3 series chassis is regarded fairly highly, so it surprises me that the more exciting 1 series(on paper) gets it so wrong.
It doesn't getting wrong at all - drive it and make your own mind up - BMW were criticised for how harsh the previous generation was - now they react and make it more supple yet fairly cleverly damped (by OE damper standards), and now people moan that it rolls a bit...

As I said before, a £300 pair of M4 lower control arms improves the car further.
Agree that I need a go in one for sure, I was just going on Autocar's most recent full road test of the 1 series(although not the M135i) and it was a pretty scathing review regards it's handling and it hadn't improved from the original 1 series hence why I mention the chassis must let the car down overall.

I've driven a 2010 116d and I didn't mind it at all to be fair though.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Richyvrlimited said:
Silver works better IMO





I think the issues people have with the interior on the 86 are a bit 1st world problems. I've come from 10+ years in MK1 and Mk2 MX5's, the 86's interior, NVH etc etc is a world away from those.
Sorry, that just looks broke to me? Not sure whether it's the bodykit or the wheels but it definitely doesn't look right confused

I still think a 300bhp fire spitting monster that looked something like this would fly out of the showrooms.....

smile

Gary C

12,421 posts

179 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Richyvrlimited said:
ChrisDogDiggety said:
Not bad, but they blend in a bit too much with the rest of the car. The darkest colour wheel I'll go is darker metallic greys.

A gash wheel will always look gash in person no matter what colour.

Edit: must. remember. paragraphs.

Edited by ChrisDogDiggety on Thursday 14th July 22:21
Silver works better IMO





I think the issues people have with the interior on the 86 are a bit 1st world problems. I've come from 10+ years in MK1 and Mk2 MX5's, the 86's interior, NVH etc etc is a world away from those.
Looks like the suspension has collapsed !

Richyvrlimited

1,825 posts

163 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Tuvra said:
Sorry, that just looks broke to me? Not sure whether it's the bodykit or the wheels but it definitely doesn't look right confused

I still think a 300bhp fire spitting monster that looked something like this would fly out of the showrooms.....

smile
I quoted for the wheel colour, not the fact it's been dropped to it's arse.

I disagree that would fly out of showrooms, you've quite a niche product when it looks like that.

Guvernator

13,148 posts

165 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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If they had to the do a turbo one, I'd prefer the slightly more subdued looks of the Subaru STi version that's been shown countless times.





It's just missing some gold wheels and it would be perfect! wink

They've obviously thought about it as they've gone to the effort of making a show car. Go on Subaru, you know you want to. It's been too long since you've had an STi coupe in your line-up.


braddo

10,460 posts

188 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Guvernator said:
If they had to the do a turbo one, I'd prefer the slightly more subdued looks of the Subaru STi version that's been shown countless times.



It's just missing some gold wheels and it would be perfect! wink

They've obviously thought about it as they've gone to the effort of making a show car. Go on Subaru, you know you want to. It's been too long since you've had an STi coupe in your line-up.
It's a fine looking thing.

What did the top of the range 2-door STIs cost back in the day? My guess is the above would be a £40-45k car, so not sure if it would fly out of the showrooms.

Guvernator

13,148 posts

165 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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braddo said:
It's a fine looking thing.

What did the top of the range 2-door STIs cost back in the day? My guess is the above would be a £40-45k car, so not sure if it would fly out of the showrooms.
I think the P1 was around £30k but that was at the turn of the millennium. Now you'd think inflation might make the new one very expensive but you can buy 300bhp hatchbacks for £30k packed to the rafters with gizmo's and tech so not beyond the realms of possibility that this could be £35k?

Gary C

12,421 posts

179 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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braddo said:
Guvernator said:
If they had to the do a turbo one, I'd prefer the slightly more subdued looks of the Subaru STi version that's been shown countless times.



It's just missing some gold wheels and it would be perfect! wink

They've obviously thought about it as they've gone to the effort of making a show car. Go on Subaru, you know you want to. It's been too long since you've had an STi coupe in your line-up.
It's a fine looking thing.

What did the top of the range 2-door STIs cost back in the day? My guess is the above would be a £40-45k car, so not sure if it would fly out of the showrooms.
My blob STi cost me £25K new !

Big scoop model with the AP suretrac front diff. Nice car, fast and capable but I always felt it was not as 'great' as the EVO V that i had before it.

But, maybe oddly given the history of those two cars, im glad the GT86 is not turbo'ed.

Edited by Gary C on Friday 15th July 17:20

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Tuvra said:
I still think a 300bhp fire spitting monster that looked something like this would fly out of the showrooms.....

smile
Yeah, the streets are full of that sort of thing. And you almost never hear them first. Or think to yourself "He's covered that with glue and driven it through Halfords. What a prat.".

Are you twelve?

Leejay-B

93 posts

183 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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Richyvrlimited said:
Silver works better IMO





I think the issues people have with the interior on the 86 are a bit 1st world problems. I've come from 10+ years in MK1 and Mk2 MX5's, the 86's interior, NVH etc etc is a world away from those.
Ah yes silver works very well.

Saves buying a set of wheels.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Friday 15th July 2016
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I must admit, wheels are one thing I struggle to care about. Alloys do look better than steel, but beyond that I'm not sure I could tell the difference between a pretty one and an ugly one. As long as they keep the floorpan off the road.

ChrisDogDiggety

16 posts

122 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Richyvrlimited said:
Silver works better IMO





I think the issues people have with the interior on the 86 are a bit 1st world problems. I've come from 10+ years in MK1 and Mk2 MX5's, the 86's interior, NVH etc etc is a world away from those.
Still doesn't do it for me mate. The lowering kinda helps, i just don't think it's a pretty spoke pattern. If it had some compomotive fh500 split rims on and I'd probably buy it.