RE: Revised Toyota GT86 on the way
Discussion
CABC said:
Guvernator said:
200bhp is a little low in today's world of 300bhp hot hatches but I could live with it. What I can't live with is the characterless nature of that engine. If it had a 200bhp Honda Vtec type unit which screamed to 8krpm it would be brilliant. A turbo version would be nice as an alternative choice for the power hungry but they really need to do something about the dull standard engine. The Cosworth tuning package livens it up considerably by all accounts, not sure why Toyobaru just don't offer something like that from the factory with a warranty.
that's a better criticism. it works well 5 - 7.5k, which if you like NA cars and using the gearbox is fine, but before that it's a let down totally agree. A better exhaust would be a simple fix to the mood of the car if legislation permitted.Even though personally I find the FA20 preferable to any engine with a turbocharger - or any without spark plugs - which seem to be as close as some people get to automotive Shangri-la.
CABC said:
that's a better criticism. it works well 5 - 7.5k, which if you like NA cars and using the gearbox is fine, but before that it's a let down totally agree. A better exhaust would be a simple fix to the mood of the car if legislation permitted.
Looks like there are a few NA tuning options for them now which seem to eliminate torque dip, give it an 25 extra bhp and make it rev\sound better which sounds ideal. It's just a pity all will write off your warranty. I thought the whole point of this car was that you can tune it to your tastes. The manufacturers are missing out IMO, they really should be offering warranty backed tuning packages by now.
CABC said:
Guvernator said:
I thought the whole point of this car was that you can tune it to your tastes. The manufacturers are missing out IMO, they really should be offering warranty backed tuning packages by now.
Guvernator said:
200bhp is a little low in today's world of 300bhp hot hatches but I could live with it. What I can't live with is the characterless nature of that engine. If it had a 200bhp Honda Vtec type unit which screamed to 8krpm it would be brilliant. A turbo version would be nice as an alternative choice for the power hungry but they really need to do something about the dull standard engine. The Cosworth tuning package livens it up considerably by all accounts, not sure why Toyobaru just don't offer something like that from the factory with a warranty.
This is exactly right. The one I drove sounded awful, like trainers in a tumble dryer, and wasnt anywhere near fast enough for the engines claims. Had no midrange but no top end rush like VTEC civics. I know its not a straight comparison but i`d have an old integra type R over this all day long even if it is wrong wheel drive. Sadly its to expensive and not worth the effort to buy one and mod it to be good. For the money you get get something to mod which was much more worth while. For me this should be a choice for a fun daily driver to have with a silly second car for weekends etc but its not enough fun and to expensive.
Genuinely wonder if I am indeed logged on to PH some days.
Next someone will think it should be equipped with 4wd to make it more competent on our often damp B'roads.
I am seemingly in the the minority who do appreciate the package and Toyota's effort in this cruel world of regulations and price wars. Although I'll admit I would have preferred another 1k added to the redline and a more charismatic exhaust note, I guess once production stops that's when more appreciation will begin.
Next someone will think it should be equipped with 4wd to make it more competent on our often damp B'roads.
I am seemingly in the the minority who do appreciate the package and Toyota's effort in this cruel world of regulations and price wars. Although I'll admit I would have preferred another 1k added to the redline and a more charismatic exhaust note, I guess once production stops that's when more appreciation will begin.
bicycleshorts said:
Disappointing to still see any thread about the Toyobaru descend into 200bhp not being enough for the road.
I guess all the people on the Mustang waiting list need something to do for the next 18 months.
To be fair, it's usually those with I guess all the people on the Mustang waiting list need something to do for the next 18 months.
krismccloy said:
Genuinely wonder if I am indeed logged on to PH some days.
Next someone will think it should be equipped with 4wd to make it more competent on our often damp B'roads.
I am seemingly in the the minority who do appreciate the package and Toyota's effort in this cruel world of regulations and price wars. Although I'll admit I would have preferred another 1k added to the redline and a more charismatic exhaust note, I guess once production stops that's when more appreciation will begin.
I totally appreciate the fact that they've gone against the pack and tried to do something different, 8/10 for effort but I just think the execution has fallen a little short. It's been out 4 years and the criticisms are well documented now, just wish they'd taken a leaf out of the GT-R book and made continuous small improvements along the way, we might have ended up with the car we'd all hoped for by now.Next someone will think it should be equipped with 4wd to make it more competent on our often damp B'roads.
I am seemingly in the the minority who do appreciate the package and Toyota's effort in this cruel world of regulations and price wars. Although I'll admit I would have preferred another 1k added to the redline and a more charismatic exhaust note, I guess once production stops that's when more appreciation will begin.
P.S. To all those who like their Audi, VW, Seat and BMW turbos.
In many ways, the GT86 is a very old-fashioned. It's noisy, unrefined, a bit rattley, the interior is good quality but basic, and the gear change can be clunky. If you're used to your toys and refinement, you might not like it.
In many ways, the GT86 is a very old-fashioned. It's noisy, unrefined, a bit rattley, the interior is good quality but basic, and the gear change can be clunky. If you're used to your toys and refinement, you might not like it.
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