These prices can not be real or buying a car in Turkey
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Hi guys,
I am on the lookout for a 4 seater convertible. I know, I know, the only real convertibles are 2 seaters and the King is the Miata. Yes, I know.
My problem right now is that I am living in Turkey, warm as it may be, the 110% import tax on cars is not the kindest thing the gouvernment has done. Well, they've done it and I have to live with it.
Because of this tax and the stuidly high road tax I am basically restricted to 3.0 liters as the absolute maximum.
What I am looking for in the car is, as the tilte states, 4 seats (the back just for short rides, no one above 6ft will get in :P ) and a droptop. Boot space is not of importance.
Thanks to the import tax cars here are "a little" bit more expensive that in the UK, or anywhere else except for Norway for that matter.
Just as a taste: 2007 E93 320i with no SatNav....45k....Pounds.
So yeah, thats a bit above budget.
Now I never had a convertible, so I do not know the first thing about which are good or not.
Thats where I need you.
Which 4 seater droptops can you recommend, or which are there out there on the market I should take a look at?
FWD is not out of the question, it is just that I would prefer RWD, however it is no absolute must.
Enginewise, I could see myself in both a petrol and a diesel. Just has to have some grunt
So no 318i.
I am open to any and all suggestions in order to broaden my horizon.
Current car is an Alfa Romeo GT if that helps in any way imaginable.
Also, if you are curious and want to know how much your car would cost here, feel free to ask.
I am on the lookout for a 4 seater convertible. I know, I know, the only real convertibles are 2 seaters and the King is the Miata. Yes, I know.
My problem right now is that I am living in Turkey, warm as it may be, the 110% import tax on cars is not the kindest thing the gouvernment has done. Well, they've done it and I have to live with it.
Because of this tax and the stuidly high road tax I am basically restricted to 3.0 liters as the absolute maximum.
What I am looking for in the car is, as the tilte states, 4 seats (the back just for short rides, no one above 6ft will get in :P ) and a droptop. Boot space is not of importance.
Thanks to the import tax cars here are "a little" bit more expensive that in the UK, or anywhere else except for Norway for that matter.
Just as a taste: 2007 E93 320i with no SatNav....45k....Pounds.
So yeah, thats a bit above budget.
Now I never had a convertible, so I do not know the first thing about which are good or not.
Thats where I need you.
Which 4 seater droptops can you recommend, or which are there out there on the market I should take a look at?
FWD is not out of the question, it is just that I would prefer RWD, however it is no absolute must.
Enginewise, I could see myself in both a petrol and a diesel. Just has to have some grunt
So no 318i.I am open to any and all suggestions in order to broaden my horizon.
Current car is an Alfa Romeo GT if that helps in any way imaginable.
Also, if you are curious and want to know how much your car would cost here, feel free to ask.
I'm pretty sure you can take a car over from here and use it for 2 years without having to register it locally. Depending on how long you are planning to stay, it may be the better\cheaper option. LHD cars are even cheaper over here if you want to be driving on the right side of the road in Turkey.
Convertible Mustang might fit your bill. Alternatively source a lhd BMW 3 series from Europe, register it here then take it to Turkey. A bit long winded but it will save you £££'s.
Convertible Mustang might fit your bill. Alternatively source a lhd BMW 3 series from Europe, register it here then take it to Turkey. A bit long winded but it will save you £££'s.
I would if I could. But even that is heavely restricted.
any car that is taken in for "permanent use" e.g. the two years you are talking about has to be 3 years of age at the maximum.
Whatsmore you have to have lived the last 6 month in the country you are bringing the car from.
I know, it is all a big big mess.
So that basically leaved me with biting the bullet and buying a car from here.
any car that is taken in for "permanent use" e.g. the two years you are talking about has to be 3 years of age at the maximum.
Whatsmore you have to have lived the last 6 month in the country you are bringing the car from.
I know, it is all a big big mess.
So that basically leaved me with biting the bullet and buying a car from here.
tektas said:
I would if I could. But even that is heavely restricted.
any car that is taken in for "permanent use" e.g. the two years you are talking about has to be 3 years of age at the maximum.
Whatsmore you have to have lived the last 6 month in the country you are bringing the car from.
I know, it is all a big big mess.
So that basically leaved me with biting the bullet and buying a car from here.
You can pick up a 3 year old 3 series convertible for about £17k here, you haven't mentioned your budget but that's about 65k TL at current exchange rates, you are unlikely to get a decent convertible in Turkey for that sort of money.any car that is taken in for "permanent use" e.g. the two years you are talking about has to be 3 years of age at the maximum.
Whatsmore you have to have lived the last 6 month in the country you are bringing the car from.
I know, it is all a big big mess.
So that basically leaved me with biting the bullet and buying a car from here.
I can't really help you on this matter, but are you sure a convertible is a sensible choice for Turkey (or any hot country for the matter)?
I had 2 when I lived in southern France, so by no mean as hot as Turkey probably, and honestly 99% of the time you had to drive with the roof up. When it's sunny and you are in slow traffic it gets so hot that you want to turn on Aircon, when it's sunny and you're travelling at speed you better put the roof up, as otherwise you'll get burned.
The only times when I appreciated driving with the roof down was at night or during cool spring/fall days.
And I did drive through Arizona/Nevada/California with the roof down, so I really love it, but I wouldn't buy another convertible thinking that it will be of use
I had 2 when I lived in southern France, so by no mean as hot as Turkey probably, and honestly 99% of the time you had to drive with the roof up. When it's sunny and you are in slow traffic it gets so hot that you want to turn on Aircon, when it's sunny and you're travelling at speed you better put the roof up, as otherwise you'll get burned.
The only times when I appreciated driving with the roof down was at night or during cool spring/fall days.
And I did drive through Arizona/Nevada/California with the roof down, so I really love it, but I wouldn't buy another convertible thinking that it will be of use
That's a fair point. I have seen quite a lot of convertibles but nearly all of them drove with the top up.
The thing is, its an itch I want to stratch.
After some research I have some candidates in an "okay" price range.
Volvo C70 T5
VW EOS 2.0
E46 325-330i
CLK200-270 (2004-2006)
Astra convertible 1.6 (2005-2008)
Unfortuantely I have no experience with any of these cars.
Is there anything I have to be aware of with these?
I think I will go ahead and rent a convertible for a week and see how I can live with it.
If I am still convinced and not burned by the sun I will go ahead and scratch the itch. If not, I will switch to another Coupe or maybe a Hot Hatch.
The thing is, its an itch I want to stratch.
After some research I have some candidates in an "okay" price range.
Volvo C70 T5
VW EOS 2.0
E46 325-330i
CLK200-270 (2004-2006)
Astra convertible 1.6 (2005-2008)
Unfortuantely I have no experience with any of these cars.
Is there anything I have to be aware of with these?
I think I will go ahead and rent a convertible for a week and see how I can live with it.
If I am still convinced and not burned by the sun I will go ahead and scratch the itch. If not, I will switch to another Coupe or maybe a Hot Hatch.
I was working with a pilot recently who told me about this tax. For reference we looked at MK7 Fiesta ST's on Turkish Autotrader and they came up around £10,000, for a used, Barry'd up 2.0 ST.
Now, I don't know any poor pilots but even he struggled to get into a new SLK200 in Turkey. Basically if you see anyone in anything that you'd class as German and mundane over here, their Turkish counterpart would be minted.
Now, I don't know any poor pilots but even he struggled to get into a new SLK200 in Turkey. Basically if you see anyone in anything that you'd class as German and mundane over here, their Turkish counterpart would be minted.
Exactly, German cars especially are extremely overpriced here. You pay a lot, and I mean A LOT of money for the badge, especially if you add an "///M" or AMG to it.
E93 M3 for 90k pounds anyone?
My personal "problem" is, I am originally from Germany, so I know how the priced could be so it stings everytime to see the prices here. But, it is how it is.
As I want some grunt under the hood I can not see myself in a 318 or 320 or EOS 1.6.
My list of preferences in the 60-100k lira range come down to the following cars:
Volvo C70 T5 (if the rental convertible doesnt make me think otherwise because the sun has turned me into bacon)
Mitsubishi Evo 9/10
E46 330i / M3 (can be found in that range)
Golf VI R
Audi S3
we will see how it goes.
Anyone want to know what their car costs?
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E93 M3 for 90k pounds anyone?
My personal "problem" is, I am originally from Germany, so I know how the priced could be so it stings everytime to see the prices here. But, it is how it is.
As I want some grunt under the hood I can not see myself in a 318 or 320 or EOS 1.6.
My list of preferences in the 60-100k lira range come down to the following cars:
Volvo C70 T5 (if the rental convertible doesnt make me think otherwise because the sun has turned me into bacon)
Mitsubishi Evo 9/10
E46 330i / M3 (can be found in that range)
Golf VI R
Audi S3
we will see how it goes.
Anyone want to know what their car costs?
Have fun and include us in your fun
https://www.sahibinden.com/kategori/otomobil
If I'm correct, the British buy more convertibles than any other country/countries combined in Europe.
I think its our hopeless optimism about the weather.
My experience of Europe and warm countries is you actually don't want a soft top: you want to be in yr car with the air- con at full tilt, keeping you calm in 30 degree + heat.
I think its our hopeless optimism about the weather.
My experience of Europe and warm countries is you actually don't want a soft top: you want to be in yr car with the air- con at full tilt, keeping you calm in 30 degree + heat.
There is possibly another way to avoid the duties. Georgia has a free trade agreement with Turkey, with no import duties between the countries, buy or import into Georgia (low import duties) and then register the car in Turkey, free of punitive Turkish import duties.
I am not sure if it is still the case, but might be worth investigating.
I am not sure if it is still the case, but might be worth investigating.
austinsmirk said:
If I'm correct, the British buy more convertibles than any other country/countries combined in Europe.
I think its our hopeless optimism about the weather.
My experience of Europe and warm countries is you actually don't want a soft top: you want to be in yr car with the air- con at full tilt, keeping you calm in 30 degree + heat.
As he has said though, he has the itch for one and it has to be scratched or you'll always wonder.I think its our hopeless optimism about the weather.
My experience of Europe and warm countries is you actually don't want a soft top: you want to be in yr car with the air- con at full tilt, keeping you calm in 30 degree + heat.
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