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sutts said:
To be fair the £95k E28 is an anomaly. It was a concours resto that sold to a somewhat nutty (in a good way) Japanese billionaire who I'm told has a 200+ car collection and is an M fan. I understand it has remained in storage in this country but sadly is unlikely to be driven more than a few miles a year to keep it ticking over.
Was the £95k car the one being advertised before the resto had happened? Delphin Grey IIRC?Gruber said:
Bugger this thread has got depressing.
Doubly so, considering everything vaguely interesting is even more expensive out here in cuckoo-clock-land.
Why, oh why didn't I buy a guards red 930 for £25k when I had the chance? Or a nice, tidy 993 C2? etc etc etc.
I'll add the £14k E30 Sport Evo being sold as a BMW AUC in 2000 to that list, although it would have had to be pressed into daily driving duties back then. Damn you unreasonable insurance! (It took an age to sell at that price)Doubly so, considering everything vaguely interesting is even more expensive out here in cuckoo-clock-land.
Why, oh why didn't I buy a guards red 930 for £25k when I had the chance? Or a nice, tidy 993 C2? etc etc etc.
And the €30k 964 3.3T ten years later. Bought a CSL instead, what a terrible investment in comparison!
Leins said:
I'll add the £14k E30 Sport Evo being sold as a BMW AUC in 2000 to that list, although it would have had to be pressed into daily driving duties back then. Damn you unreasonable insurance! (It took an age to sell at that price)
And the €30k 964 3.3T ten years later. Bought a CSL instead, what a terrible investment in comparison!
A work colleague of mine bought a black Evo sport for 14k around about then. He used it for daily duties for a good few years. He still has it and he's on here. And the €30k 964 3.3T ten years later. Bought a CSL instead, what a terrible investment in comparison!
Terzo123 said:
A work colleague of mine bought a black Evo sport for 14k around about then. He used it for daily duties for a good few years. He still has it and he's on here.
This one was red as far as I remember, being sold by Halliwell Jones in Southport. Was an original UK car, with about 40k miles. Think it took months to sell, as was very strongly priced for thenLeins said:
This one was red as far as I remember, being sold by Halliwell Jones in Southport. Was an original UK car, with about 40k miles. Think it took months to sell, as was very strongly priced for then
A bargain when you think about it now. I paid 14k in December 2000 for an Impreza Turbo Terzo PPP. It's worth about 3k today. The sport Evo............lots more.
I did enjoy it though all the same I love this - expensive but such a usable classic. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-BMW-E30-325i-Motors...
In light of current prices/trends, this doesn't seem to be totally stupid money. Although I'm guessing they've had to add a grand onto the price, to cover the cost of the full website ad.
E39 B10
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C689741
E39 B10
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C689741
I love the E34 - right around peak BMW for me, even if the E39 is arguably the better car. I can deal with running old cars as my 1985 MR2 was a DD for a couple of years and didn't make me curse (too much giggling for expletives) - no A/C, crap radio, electric windows and mirrors though. And a later a big V6 
If honest I really like every generation of M5, but my favourites are E28 to E39 inclusive I think. I'd happily run an E34 or E39 M5 but I'd want something a little less couth for a nice contrast
If honest I really like every generation of M5, but my favourites are E28 to E39 inclusive I think. I'd happily run an E34 or E39 M5 but I'd want something a little less couth for a nice contrast
Output Flange said:
mondayo said:
to cover the cost of the full website ad.
The what, chap?I was just pondering on how much extra you had to pay, to cover the guff in the advert.
Diesel Meister said:
| Model | Low? | High? | % Increase? |
|---|---|---|---|
| E24 M | £6.5k | £26k | 400% |
| E28 M5 | £3k | ??? | ??? |
| E30 M3 | £7k | £100k | 1,329%! |
| E34 M5 | £4.5k | £35k? | 700% |
| E46 CSL | £20k | £60k? | 140% |
| 2.2S | ??? | ??? | ??? |
| 3.2 CS | £25k | ??? | ??? |
| 964 RS | £25k? | £200k? | 700% |
| 993 RS | £50k? | £300k? | 500% |
| 996 GT3 | £25k | £70k | 100% |
| F355 | ??? | ??? | ??? |
| 288 GTO | ??? | ??? | ??? |
| F40 | ??? | ??? | ??? |
| F50 | ??? | ??? | ??? |
I would put the 10 year figure for most E34 M5's at about 100-150% increase over the same period with the well publicised and wallet breaking double-bork of the car being the major hindrance for the cars value.
I would suggest the E28 M5 at a little more than the E24 percentage wise as the continued and unbroken line badge cult of the M5 and the relative rarity of the rhd E28 version bolster its perceived worth.
E30 M3 values are just silly imho; I have never seen the attraction of them of any other contemporary 'M' car of the E30's lifetime.
You can't forget running costs over the time of the price increase.
We have a 964 Carrera 2, a car whose value has more than doubled.
Purchased for 17k, on sale for 35k some 10 years later. The kicker, its has just had an 18k rebuild.
Not bad depreciation, but not the cash machine that you'd read on the internet.
We have a 964 Carrera 2, a car whose value has more than doubled.
Purchased for 17k, on sale for 35k some 10 years later. The kicker, its has just had an 18k rebuild.
Not bad depreciation, but not the cash machine that you'd read on the internet.
Rory-8615y said:
You can't forget running costs over the time of the price increase.
We have a 964 Carrera 2, a car whose value has more than doubled.
Purchased for 17k, on sale for 35k some 10 years later. The kicker, its has just had an 18k rebuild.
Not bad depreciation, but not the cash machine that you'd read on the internet.
Advert linky? We have a 964 Carrera 2, a car whose value has more than doubled.
Purchased for 17k, on sale for 35k some 10 years later. The kicker, its has just had an 18k rebuild.
Not bad depreciation, but not the cash machine that you'd read on the internet.
So the new Golf GTI arrived yesterday. It's an impressive car but I made the mistake of jumping straight from the Integrale into the Golf. My God it feels like jumping from a sports car into an SUV. The Golf is so much bigger (if I reach out straight ahead of me when driving I don't touch the windscreen!). It is a real sign of how much cars have changed. The tech in the Golf is mostly great (although it has some silly things like piping engine noise into the speakers!). It's smooth comfortable and fast. But compared the Lancia there is no mechanical connection between driver and car.
I guess we'll get used to the Golf so that every journey in the Lancia is special but part of me feels sad that that's just the way modern cars are. That's progress I guess.
Oh - and mrs rejn saw the Ferrari yesterday and she likes it. Seeing it immobile reminds me that I really should get it up and running again... I'm changing jobs and moving house in the next 6 months but might try and get it worked on next winter...
I guess we'll get used to the Golf so that every journey in the Lancia is special but part of me feels sad that that's just the way modern cars are. That's progress I guess.
Oh - and mrs rejn saw the Ferrari yesterday and she likes it. Seeing it immobile reminds me that I really should get it up and running again... I'm changing jobs and moving house in the next 6 months but might try and get it worked on next winter...
Scho said:
Advert linky?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-964/porsche-911-carrera-2-coupe-1993-complete-engine-rerebuild-500-miles-ago-the-car-is-stunning/5917473Decent appreciation, but the bills over the time add up to 40k plus.
Still, time and money very well spent
Rory-8615y said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Decent appreciation, but the bills over the time add up to 40k plus.
Still, time and money very well spent
I wonder what the 10 year running costs of something more mundane would be - say, a Renault Laguna?Decent appreciation, but the bills over the time add up to 40k plus.
Still, time and money very well spent
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