The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T(Vol XVIII)
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dannyDC2 said:
Anyone know anything about THIS 540i6?
Seems cheap for the mileage, but the advert is doing its best to make the car sound dodgy.
Does it seem cheap? Seems remarkably expensive to me. Not seen many cooking E39s north of 5k, and they need to be very good indeed. Advert gets my goat so they wouldn't be getting my business in any regard.Seems cheap for the mileage, but the advert is doing its best to make the car sound dodgy.
Edited by dannyDC2 on Sunday 5th March 23:09
hornetrider said:
dannyDC2 said:
Anyone know anything about THIS 540i6?
Seems cheap for the mileage, but the advert is doing its best to make the car sound dodgy.
Does it seem cheap? Seems remarkably expensive to me. Not seen many cooking E39s north of 5k, and they need to be very good indeed. Advert gets my goat so they wouldn't be getting my business in any regard.Seems cheap for the mileage, but the advert is doing its best to make the car sound dodgy.
Edited by dannyDC2 on Sunday 5th March 23:09
Top posting chaps - thanks for the input!
I realise that left of the M3 which is an obvious "do it all" type car. Consider it being considered, alongside the 986 / 996 options. It's a toughie as my spread of options have quite a wide ranges of prices / costs to run etc.!
I like the idea of a hot hatch / cooking Bimmer as the running costs element will be lower than something more specialised, but can still see the appeal of the more "exotic" German metal mentioned.
/wanders off to ponder
I realise that left of the M3 which is an obvious "do it all" type car. Consider it being considered, alongside the 986 / 996 options. It's a toughie as my spread of options have quite a wide ranges of prices / costs to run etc.!
I like the idea of a hot hatch / cooking Bimmer as the running costs element will be lower than something more specialised, but can still see the appeal of the more "exotic" German metal mentioned.
/wanders off to ponder
DM - the only other car I can think to add that fits in the 10k and beyond category is perhaps an RS4.
Left-field sub 10k option option; a Legacy spec B GT WR / Litchfield import, or even a Forester STi if practical bombing is the order of the day.
I believe you worship at the alter of inline-6, as do I, but just in case maybe these are credible alternatives to consider.
e.g. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
Left-field sub 10k option option; a Legacy spec B GT WR / Litchfield import, or even a Forester STi if practical bombing is the order of the day.
I believe you worship at the alter of inline-6, as do I, but just in case maybe these are credible alternatives to consider.
e.g. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
Blueprint said:
DM - the only other car I can think to add that fits in the 10k and beyond category is perhaps an RS4.
Left-field sub 10k option option; a Legacy spec B GT WR / Litchfield import, or even a Forester STi if practical bombing is the order of the day.
I believe you worship at the alter of inline-6, as do I, but just in case maybe these are credible alternatives to consider.
e.g. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
Left-field sub 10k option option; a Legacy spec B GT WR / Litchfield import, or even a Forester STi if practical bombing is the order of the day.
I believe you worship at the alter of inline-6, as do I, but just in case maybe these are credible alternatives to consider.
e.g. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
Further posting post commute!
olly22n said:
You have a 987? Have you tried the clutch mod? Improves the throttle response when HnT'ing no end.
Can't say I have an issue with the throttle response to bother. Considering changing the brake master cylinder though as on the rare occasions of really hard braking I find the brake pedal is travelling further than ideal for blipping the throttle. Stop talking about 987s! 
Seriously that one was on the list as was the E46 M. Dang it.
Thanks gain for the suggestions / observations though - I realise that I'm re-treading a well-worn path of indecision whilst throwing up many of the usual suspects! I think availability might determine the eventual outcome, as well as a vague desire for something not too onerous in the running costs department that is brisk and enjoyable to hustle whilst also being both more practical and yet a different enough drive when compared to Emmy Lou (not hard - she's practically unique!) to justify a two car approach.
Revised rundown (hopefully sans the most egregious typographical anomalies):
*Golf GTI (VI) - As above but cheaper for VW to make. Apparently. Nixed as not better than the Golf V.
Seriously that one was on the list as was the E46 M. Dang it.
Thanks gain for the suggestions / observations though - I realise that I'm re-treading a well-worn path of indecision whilst throwing up many of the usual suspects! I think availability might determine the eventual outcome, as well as a vague desire for something not too onerous in the running costs department that is brisk and enjoyable to hustle whilst also being both more practical and yet a different enough drive when compared to Emmy Lou (not hard - she's practically unique!) to justify a two car approach.
Revised rundown (hopefully sans the most egregious typographical anomalies):
- 986S – I already know that I want one. But two seats is potentially too similar to Emmy Lou. Plus I already have a 986, for now. But these are really rather good and much better value proposition than the 996 unless you really need 4 seats (I don’t but it would be useful and help justify a purchase in my case).
- 987S – If honest, this is probably the car I should buy. A box with a tin-top. A nice Gen 2 S probably does everything I’d want from an everyday car, aside from occasional 3rd and 4th passengers. Very top end of sensible budget given aforementioned domestic challenges. That and it would be about 18th thread Cayster
- 996 C2 – I am currently lacking the courage, whether for the potential bork and running costs, or to answer to my close friends and family All joking aside, I do seriously desire one. Only thing that comes close in terms of breadth of ability / accommodation is the E46 M in my opinion and that is a better value buy.
- 130i - Tempting purely for having the correct number of cylinders and RWD. Driven a diseasal version a couple of times - ok if cramped and jiggly. May need something doing about suspension to resolve ride / handling into something a bit more capable and less likely to be embarrassed by a FWD hot hatch. Looks an acquired taste but I like that it’s more compact than 3 series. Potentially less fun than a sports car / hot hatch out of the box?
- E90 330i - See above. More space and less "challenging" styling. A bit predictable maybe but relatively discreet. I really like under the radar but not sure I need an executive saloon. Safe choice though.
- E36 M3 – I really like these. Discreet with race-car engine. Lots of potential, lovely size. Old enough not to appear flash, but age also means less choice as most are ruined or tucked up / forever cars…
- E46 M3 – What can I say. The daddy of the do-it-all car. Love the looks and engine, drive is very good with potential for excellence (suspension, seat, brakes and a touch of breathing for aural pleasure and I’d be in clover). Might be tough to find a careful for example at a sensible (i.e. non-Hexagon-like) price. Inspection II not for kids! Might lust after a CS…
- Civic Type R (EP3) - No idea why. Styling and perceived image off-putting. Engine and gearbox enticing though. Practical too.
- Cooper S JCW (R53) - I think it would be fun, notwithstanding doubts about the styling / image. Tried a CS recently (the other half has a convertible) and smiled at go-kart-like enthusiasm for brisk progress. Even though most of my fillings fell out.
- Cooper S JCW (R56) - See above. More economical but slightly more goofy styling to my eyes. Tried and enjoyed one from a dealer a couple of years back and found it fun if not massively fast. Tiny interior and boot but I’d mostly be two up (for now…). Much better looking than the current model in my opinion, although looks non-determinative in themselves.
- Golf GTi (V) - Tempting. A little big. A little turbo-charged. A little predictable but supposedly a little bit good too! Like the idea of an ED30 for low key pace and practicality with smidgen of fun. Worried it might be capable but a bit sensible and thus a tad dull…
- Megane Cup / Trophy (Last model) - These all seem to be about £20k still (ouch). Like the space / pace balance. Less so the entry price and potential depreciation (might not be as bad due to being last of the line but still...). Good shout from Rocket on the preceding model as I much prefer a £10k entry point. Supposedly better than the Golf to drive, which is what counts for me – a tempting counterpoint to the unhinged rocket sled known as Emmy Lou
- Clio Trophy - Like the idea, the reality is likely bit rich considering you can get a serviceable Clio RS for £2-4k. I’d really love to try one of these but have the sense that, good though they are, I’d be better of finding a regular 172/182 and going from there. Thoughts?
- Clio 200 Cup - Like a more habitable version of the above. Still £5-10k apparently. Not sure of the differences but I’m preferring a later model (styling aside). Not driven one but like the size and NA approach. Sceptical of “GT3 of hot hatches” title but have great expectations. Need to try one.
Edited by Diesel Meister on Tuesday 7th March 14:09
Can't say I've noticed this on my Croc apart from being annoying that you have to depress the clutch to start the car... The MC upgrade done on Moose recommendation is well worth it though, however the faff and labour cost to get all the air out of the system was unwelcomed with my local indie.
One for DM, slightly over budget and perhaps a bit too focused and is it worth 2x E46 M3 ?
£22k
https://classifieds.seloc.org/ads/z4m-coupe-for-ro...
One for DM, slightly over budget and perhaps a bit too focused and is it worth 2x E46 M3 ?
£22k
https://classifieds.seloc.org/ads/z4m-coupe-for-ro...
Ooooh!
I was coincidentally thinking of these whilst on the train this morning.Serious butterfly brain - too many cars and not enough time or cash! Really like the Z4M. Needs decent dampers and springs, shirly?
ETA: THAT IS FAPPING LOVELY! Rocket you've out-done yourself there mate
I was coincidentally thinking of these whilst on the train this morning.Serious butterfly brain - too many cars and not enough time or cash! Really like the Z4M. Needs decent dampers and springs, shirly?
ETA: THAT IS FAPPING LOVELY! Rocket you've out-done yourself there mate
Edited by Diesel Meister on Tuesday 7th March 14:14
Indeed - more affordable in all respects and jolly nice donk.olly22n said:
M97 roulette. Love it.
Got a from me tooolly22n said:
I have a slight ticking from the right bank which scares the s
t out of me, but no smoke and my oil consumption is 250ml over 7k.
Can't help you but in my experience injectors are bloody noisy when right by your ear - Emmy Lou ticks like a cartoon bundle of TNT!t out of me, but no smoke and my oil consumption is 250ml over 7k.olly22n said:
DM - if you're near the B660 please feel free drive head up the A1 to stamford if you want a go in my cayman
Challenge accepted! I can't promise you a couth experience if you try the AW11 (I really need to sort the suspension and brakes more. And roll the rear arches / sort the offset front to rear) but I'm game. Soon as I have spare second, PM shall be incoming sir.TheRocket said:
Can't say I've noticed this on my Croc apart from being annoying that you have to depress the clutch to start the car... The MC upgrade done on Moose recommendation is well worth it though, however the faff and labour cost to get all the air out of the system was unwelcomed with my local indie.
One for DM, slightly over budget and perhaps a bit too focused and is it worth 2x E46 M3 ?
£22k
https://classifieds.seloc.org/ads/z4m-coupe-for-ro...
I know this car when it belonged to Richard - it was stupidly, stupidly fast. Easily quicker than a CSL in any circumstances. Loved scaring GT3s at the Ring with it while there for my stag do...One for DM, slightly over budget and perhaps a bit too focused and is it worth 2x E46 M3 ?
£22k
https://classifieds.seloc.org/ads/z4m-coupe-for-ro...
Is it worth £22k? Difficult question... E46 M3 for £8k with £14k of parts and labour will make a better car, but then the Z4MC is a 100-times better looking car... So yes, it is worth the premium... And no crock of the same vintage can get even close to it in terms of driving dynamics. This is what every Z4MC should have been from the factory!
Cheburator mk2 said:
I know this car when it belonged to Richard - it was stupidly, stupidly fast. Easily quicker than a CSL in any circumstances. Loved scaring GT3s at the Ring with it while there for my stag do...
Is it worth £22k? Difficult question... E46 M3 for £8k with £14k of parts and labour will make a better car, but then the Z4MC is a 100-times better looking car... So yes, it is worth the premium... And no crock of the same vintage can get even close to it in terms of driving dynamics. This is what every Z4MC should have been from the factory!
STOP IT! Is it worth £22k? Difficult question... E46 M3 for £8k with £14k of parts and labour will make a better car, but then the Z4MC is a 100-times better looking car... So yes, it is worth the premium... And no crock of the same vintage can get even close to it in terms of driving dynamics. This is what every Z4MC should have been from the factory!
Diesel Meister said:
Cheburator mk2 said:
I know this car when it belonged to Richard - it was stupidly, stupidly fast. Easily quicker than a CSL in any circumstances. Loved scaring GT3s at the Ring with it while there for my stag do...
Is it worth £22k? Difficult question... E46 M3 for £8k with £14k of parts and labour will make a better car, but then the Z4MC is a 100-times better looking car... So yes, it is worth the premium... And no crock of the same vintage can get even close to it in terms of driving dynamics. This is what every Z4MC should have been from the factory!
STOP IT! Is it worth £22k? Difficult question... E46 M3 for £8k with £14k of parts and labour will make a better car, but then the Z4MC is a 100-times better looking car... So yes, it is worth the premium... And no crock of the same vintage can get even close to it in terms of driving dynamics. This is what every Z4MC should have been from the factory!
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