Strange car selling situation: advice needed

Strange car selling situation: advice needed

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Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Thankyou4calling said:
If the guy transferred the money into your account then he can't get it back.

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So wrong


g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Why did the seller do the V5 before the buyer had collected the car?

Easier to ensure you've been paid and it's all cleared and then get the buyer to collect the car (and do the V5 at that point).

Then you give him his part and send him on his way, whilst sending off your part.

You get paid, car goes and V5 is sent off.


R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Soov535 said:
Thankyou4calling said:
If the guy transferred the money into your account then he can't get it back.

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So wrong
How so?

Thankyou4calling

10,603 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Soov535 said:
So wrong
Why is that wrong?.

Thankyou4calling

10,603 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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djd1968 said:
No news. The buyer still hasn't picked up the car and my mate still has the money. He's been working this week so he's going to try and contact the buyer again over the weekend.
I can't understand why he is trying to contact the fella at all.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Thankyou4calling said:
Soov535 said:
So wrong
Why is that wrong?.
Sometimes payments can be reversed for a number of days. So our hero sends £1k back, and then the fraudster takes back the £2k and is £1k up.

Simple.

Thankyou4calling

10,603 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Soov535 said:
Sometimes payments can be reversed for a number of days. So our hero sends £1k back, and then the fraudster takes back the £2k and is £1k up.

Simple.
If that were the case surely the whole banking system would crumble. Are you saying I can make a payment to someone and then get it put back into my account? I don't think that's right.

TallPaul

1,517 posts

258 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Soov535 said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Soov535 said:
So wrong
Why is that wrong?.
Sometimes payments can be reversed for a number of days. So our hero sends £1k back, and then the fraudster takes back the £2k and is £1k up.

Simple.
I think deckster has got the most likely scenario, a bank will definitely grab back a fraudulent transfer...
deckster said:
It's not his money, so he's not interested in it back. It's a pretty simple scam really:

  • He transfers money into your account, from somebody else's hacked account / fake bankers draft / whatever
  • You transfer money back into a different account / cash / Western Union or something equally untraceable
  • The original transfer is flagged as fraudulent and gets reversed. All of a sudden, you're down a grand and he's laughing.
At no point is the scammer out of pocket and as soon as you start being difficult he's going to walk away. Just like this.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Thankyou4calling said:
Soov535 said:
Sometimes payments can be reversed for a number of days. So our hero sends £1k back, and then the fraudster takes back the £2k and is £1k up.

Simple.
If that were the case surely the whole banking system would crumble. Are you saying I can make a payment to someone and then get it put back into my account? I don't think that's right.
Under certain circumstances this can happen.


Thankyou4calling

10,603 posts

173 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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I think in the circumstances the bank would take the hit not the individual. If someone paid me and i had no knowledge it were fraudulently paid they couldn't get it back.

foxsasha

1,417 posts

135 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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We had 56k or similar appear, cleared, in our account. Left it there, it dissapeared again after a week or so. Turns out the payment was made via a stolen cheque but showed up exactly like a transfer when looking at the account online. We didn't hear anything from the scammers but the expected contact would have been alone the lines of transfer some of the money to X account, keep the rest as an apology.

Soov535

35,829 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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foxsasha said:
We had 56k or similar appear, cleared, in our account. Left it there, it dissapeared again after a week or so. Turns out the payment was made via a stolen cheque but showed up exactly like a transfer when looking at the account online. We didn't hear anything from the scammers but the expected contact would have been alone the lines of transfer some of the money to X account, keep the rest as an apology.
This.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Soov535 said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Soov535 said:
Sometimes payments can be reversed for a number of days. So our hero sends £1k back, and then the fraudster takes back the £2k and is £1k up.

Simple.
If that were the case surely the whole banking system would crumble. Are you saying I can make a payment to someone and then get it put back into my account? I don't think that's right.
Under certain circumstances this can happen.
Under very exceptional circumstances and only following discussion with the account holder.

Faster payment/BACS payments are not going to be taken back out of your account.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Worse case scenario he's £200 up as that was paid in cash in any case

majordad

3,601 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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Enjoy his good luck !

djd1968

Original Poster:

4 posts

108 months

Saturday 23rd July 2016
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The buyer's picked it up now. Said he'd changed his mind again !?!??