RE: McLaren to resurrect the F1

RE: McLaren to resurrect the F1

Sunday 24th July 2016

McLaren to resurrect the F1

'BP23' project aims to bring back the three-seat layout, with 700hp too - here's what we know so far



Now just to be very clear from the off: this is not an official story about another three-seat McLaren. Instead this relies on Autocar's information, supplied on very good authority, which suggests the F1 layout will return. Hopefully that will avoid any confusion.

Now both children can come out!
Now both children can come out!
So what do we have? Renderings and insider info, for now, but what they are suggesting sounds very exciting indeed. What it won't be, despite the name, is McLaren's flagship; that will continue as the P1, or whatever its Ultimate Series replacement is. Instead the 'F1' aims to fulfil a 'hyper-GT' role, while also demonstrating the abilities of McLaren Special Operations; more than just loads of fancy equipment or carbon enhancement, this car will show off what it can do with an actual production run.

Autocar's source says this new car will be "the most exquisitely crafted and luxurious roadgoing McLaren yet made", offering performance in line with the Super Series cars but also a level of opulence not yet seen in McLaren. Expect power to come from the 3.8-litre twin-turbo V8 that sees service in some form or another in every McLaren model, with around 700hp. Despite that power, the additional weight of the new layout means performance is more likely to be in line with the 650S rather than the 675LT. Furthermore, the Proactive Chassis Control is likely to have its most compliant set-up yet. Don't expect a Longtail either.

From what's been disclosed of the exterior styling, the new car is likely to mimic the F1 with features like a roof scoop and dramatic side intakes. However, the McLaren informant added that the styling will convey "extreme elegance".

What's arguably more exciting is underneath and inside; not only will the Monocell carbon tub have to be adapted to fit three seats and a central driving position, but an interior beyond anything we've seen from McLaren is being promised. Bespoke switchgear has been suggested, along with a range of materials so vast that no two are expected to look the same. "Closer to a piece of art than a car" is the way it's been described to Autocar.

Renderings only for now; looking good
Renderings only for now; looking good
And the name? It's currently under the code 'BP23', standing for MSO's second Bespoke Project (after the X-1) with three seats. That name indicates how significant MSO's involvement is too - this is only its second full project since being created in 2011. Apparently a production name is still being decided; obviously F1 can't be used, but then using F2 implies it's a lesser relative. F1 GT is being suggested, but feel free to post your own...

Should what's proposed come to fruition - and we're rather hoping it does - then a 2018 launch has been proposed. That would be 30 years since the idea of a McLaren road car was suggested by Gordon Murray to Ron Dennis, Mansour Ojjeh and Creighton Brown. Which would be nice. Could the F1 really return? More news to follow as soon as possible!

[Source: Autocar]

 

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Audemars

Original Poster:

507 posts

98 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Would love this to be true but since the source is Autocar coffee........


deeps

5,392 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I could stand and stare at that all day long.

tuffer

8,849 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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1F, F1.1, F1-11, G&T F1, FGT1, 1-GTF (I like that one), McF-1, McGTF-1.

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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anonymous said:
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Blame press and marketing for it. When the focus is on the numbers, then the chase for bigger numbers cannot stop.

How I wish that the motoring press would start focusing on the intangibles and find a new way to describe the qualitative aspect of a car. You know, how it rides, the feeling from the seat of one's pants, stuff like that. They try but it's like me trying to speak Chinese.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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A story about a hypercar that doesnt end 'sold out already' ??

CanAm

9,197 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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For God's sake, don't let the Great British Public decide on the name. I couldn't face another Floaty McBoaty saga. furious

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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RobDickinson said:
A story about a hypercar that doesnt end 'sold out already' ??
Because from auto car

The ultimate click bait car mag, 99% of their stories like this never happen

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

150 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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To be as far ahead of the competition as the original F1 was when it was released a new 'F1' will have to do 300mph and 0-60 in under 2.5.
There won't ever be another F1. Just another McLaren.

dypeterc

2 posts

100 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Mclaren should only do an F1 if
3 seat layout-✔️
Roof scoop-✔️
Super lightweight
BMW-sourced engine
Gold lined engine bay
Titanium toolkit
LT version to be available to commemorate Le Mans entry

F1 was never an luxurious/opulent car. It was a technological masterpiece. Let's not lose focus Mclaren.

BBL-Sean

336 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Name suggestion: McLaren FU wink

simonr100

640 posts

117 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I really like that. I wish that they would just build it!

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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will the novelty of trying to get in and out of it wear off ?

and will you just feel like you have a knock off f1? considering the only real diff to the gt series are the seats

1st world problems eh hehehehee

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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anonymous said:
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Realistically though, why would you change a formula that is obviously working? Sounds like being different for the sake of being different.

Plus you have the added R&D costs of building a new engine and gearbox.....

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I'm still waiting for the Polo R that autocar promised would be released in 2015. It's just another fancy render from a design student that fits a made up headline.

zeDuffMan

4,055 posts

151 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Wonder if this will be a P1 engine without the hybrid tech? You know, the one they said they wouldn't do because the turbo lag was too much of an issue...

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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xRIEx said:
I'm still waiting for the Polo R that autocar promised would be released in 2015. It's just another fancy render from a design student that fits a made up headline.
lol yeah

man I wanted to buy a polo 4x4 beast

where is that thing !!!!! ?????

daveco

4,125 posts

207 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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How is it resurrecting the F1 when it looks like the only thing it will have in common with the original is the seat layout??


Digger

14,663 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Leave the F1 alone, simply that.

Alias218

1,496 posts

162 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Autocar... The red top rag of the automotive world.

PHMatt

608 posts

148 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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I don't think of 3 seats when i think of an F1.

I think of a good lined engine bay with an NA V12 and breaking every record on the book.