Non premium ultimate 3 car garage
Discussion
No rules other than 3 cars (or bikes/pickups/similar) from what are debatably not premium manufacturers, can be available in any market in the world, can be old new or in the pipeline. Can be modified. Would have to be your only vehicles- could you manage without the cachet of at least one 'badge'?
Hopefully thought it might be an interesting way to pass (waste) some of the day after chemo!
At this instant it would be:
1. Nissan R35 GTR Lichfield
(I know this isn't the car, prefer blue ones)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
Ideally taken to LM1000 spec, lightened to extent you can and dd comfortably as this would be my wife's car (note to self get all work done before she saw it and just don't tell her
). Just concentrate on the safety of its esp, 4 wheel drive decent sized boot and ability to fit a child seat! Her last car was an MR2 turbo but she probably would have a fit if I suggested this..
As an aside never could understand why they didn't launch this as an Infinity in Europe/US and put the brand on the map?
A new Ford GT coloured blue one would have been preferred. A Ford GT nearly was in it's spot but suspected wife would complain a bit more, would mutter something about child seat/ buggies (but she only ever uses the sling and the GT would have to have isofix ). Still just the GTR.
2. Vauxhall VX220 2.2 supercharged Courtney stage 4+ (380bhp)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Would ideally have a few fewer miles but want a black one. This is currently at stage 2. Ok would rather have a charge cooled Honda engined Lotus Elise but defeats the purpose of the thread and this looks like it can be made into a pretty good substitute for track days and sunny days!
Antethesis of the GTR- manual, should have instant throttle response- and should compliment it well. If only a hayabusa based V8 was usable without incessant rebuilds one of those would solve the noise issue
3. VW Touareg
(Images off the PH classifieds seem not to be working for some reason.. one in classifieds is black but I got bored!)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Well some sense had to get in somewhere- I need a large estate car for work and an SUV is useful when I often end up driving into fields and in all weathers. Wife also wants something capable of towing a horsebox. Expected to be slated for the VW badge but I would argue that VW is not premium!
With these 3 I wouldn't feel any real deficit for the lack of a premium badge (although you could argue that the VW and the Vauxhall are non premium badged versions of premium cars I suppose). I'd still have them if stock but would prefer these. Ideally there would be something that sounded better but most bases covered here and premods these do nearly come in at under 100k to confuse threads!
Lots of possibilities out there, looking forward to seeing them.
Hopefully thought it might be an interesting way to pass (waste) some of the day after chemo!
At this instant it would be:
1. Nissan R35 GTR Lichfield
(I know this isn't the car, prefer blue ones)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/n...
Ideally taken to LM1000 spec, lightened to extent you can and dd comfortably as this would be my wife's car (note to self get all work done before she saw it and just don't tell her
). Just concentrate on the safety of its esp, 4 wheel drive decent sized boot and ability to fit a child seat! Her last car was an MR2 turbo but she probably would have a fit if I suggested this..As an aside never could understand why they didn't launch this as an Infinity in Europe/US and put the brand on the map?
A new Ford GT coloured blue one would have been preferred. A Ford GT nearly was in it's spot but suspected wife would complain a bit more, would mutter something about child seat/ buggies (but she only ever uses the sling and the GT would have to have isofix
). Still just the GTR.2. Vauxhall VX220 2.2 supercharged Courtney stage 4+ (380bhp)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Would ideally have a few fewer miles but want a black one. This is currently at stage 2. Ok would rather have a charge cooled Honda engined Lotus Elise but defeats the purpose of the thread and this looks like it can be made into a pretty good substitute for track days and sunny days!
Antethesis of the GTR- manual, should have instant throttle response- and should compliment it well. If only a hayabusa based V8 was usable without incessant rebuilds one of those would solve the noise issue
3. VW Touareg
(Images off the PH classifieds seem not to be working for some reason.. one in classifieds is black but I got bored!)
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...
Well some sense had to get in somewhere- I need a large estate car for work and an SUV is useful when I often end up driving into fields and in all weathers. Wife also wants something capable of towing a horsebox. Expected to be slated for the VW badge but I would argue that VW is not premium!
With these 3 I wouldn't feel any real deficit for the lack of a premium badge (although you could argue that the VW and the Vauxhall are non premium badged versions of premium cars I suppose). I'd still have them if stock but would prefer these. Ideally there would be something that sounded better but most bases covered here and premods these do nearly come in at under 100k to confuse threads!
Lots of possibilities out there, looking forward to seeing them.
Edited by mclwanB on Friday 22 July 12:12
Whitean3 said:
I suspect you've opened a can of worms when it comes to defining what is prestige and what is not- but how about these 3:
Alfa 8C (or maybe even a T33)
Ford GT40 (the original please, with Le Mans racing history
Honda NSX-R
I was going to go for the new Alfa saloon but decided that Alfa Romeo is a premium brand.. Potentially borderline though Alfa 8C (or maybe even a T33)
Ford GT40 (the original please, with Le Mans racing history
Honda NSX-R
J4CKO said:
What is "premium" anyway, Audi, so is a bog spec A1 premium but a Fiesta ST not ?
I'd define it as a car where you're paying a significant amount for the image associated with the manufacturer's brand. So yes the A1 is premium and the Fiesta ST is not.Curiously that does lead to the curious situation where in my mind a base spec A1 is "premium" but an R8 isn't because the Audi badge is worth less than just about all of the competition.
mclwanB said:
Can of worms intentional
I think older mainstream Alfas of the 50-00s were non premium but I think recent 50k + ones are certainly trying to be premium! 8C good shout otherwise.
Are we agreed that VW is non-premium? Even Touaregs and Phaetons?
I wouldn't separate individual models. For me Alfa is the Italian BMW and therefore premium with plush interiors etc.I think older mainstream Alfas of the 50-00s were non premium but I think recent 50k + ones are certainly trying to be premium! 8C good shout otherwise.
Are we agreed that VW is non-premium? Even Touaregs and Phaetons?
VW is a non-premium brand (despite it having cars that would be considered premium if they had a different badge). Audi being the premium version I guess.
J4CKO said:
What is "premium" anyway, Audi, so is a bog spec A1 premium but a Fiesta ST not ?
I would say so, I would assume it to mean the overall brand perception rather than how a particular model is comparatively equipped (a Mondeo Vignale is arguably going to be a nicer the base spec A4 but Ford isn't a premium brand; Mercury possibly is a premium brand).Johnny 89 said:
mclwanB said:
Can of worms intentional
I think older mainstream Alfas of the 50-00s were non premium but I think recent 50k + ones are certainly trying to be premium! 8C good shout otherwise.
Are we agreed that VW is non-premium? Even Touaregs and Phaetons?
I wouldn't separate individual models. For me Alfa is the Italian BMW and therefore premium with plush interiors etc.I think older mainstream Alfas of the 50-00s were non premium but I think recent 50k + ones are certainly trying to be premium! 8C good shout otherwise.
Are we agreed that VW is non-premium? Even Touaregs and Phaetons?
VW is a non-premium brand (despite it having cars that would be considered premium if they had a different badge). Audi being the premium version I guess.
kambites said:
J4CKO said:
What is "premium" anyway, Audi, so is a bog spec A1 premium but a Fiesta ST not ?
I'd define it as a car where you're paying a significant amount for the image associated with the manufacturer's brand. So yes the A1 is premium and the Fiesta ST is not.It is mainly marketing, in fact pretty much all marketing as the A1 is all trendy young urban dwellers having fun and the Fabia is a bit more pensioners sat with a flask and some ham sandwiches in a rainy seaside town.
swerni said:
Already there thanks
7.0 V8 rocket
5.0 V8 family wagon
4.0 V8 soft top cruiser
we may have a fourth but that's my wife's so doesn't count
Personally I'd put Infiniti and TVR as premium brands.7.0 V8 rocket
5.0 V8 family wagon
4.0 V8 soft top cruiser
we may have a fourth but that's my wife's so doesn't count
"Infiniti (インフィニティ Infiniti?, IPA: [inɸinʲiti]) is the luxury vehicle division of Japanese automaker Nissan."
But completely with you on the Corvette, that's the first choice on my list, when I can bother thinking of the other two (possibly the ones I've already got).
J4CKO said:
Would be interesting to strip down say the cheapest A1 and Cheapest Fabia as they are on the same platform and see how much actually differs.
I've been servicing the wife's Octavia since we've had it, using a variety of VAG parts. My experience is:Just about everything under the bonnet except for the engine cover (which ironically now says "S3" on it one because the Skoda one cracked and an Audi one was the cheapest I could find second-hand) is shared between all transverse TFSI based VAG cars of the era. There's a handful of specialist components fitted to the higher powered cars, but mostly it's all the same stuff.
In terms of suspension, the dampers and springs are different; all control arms and bushes are the same. Brakes are one of the handful of available options out of the VAG portfolio.
The interior is a mixture; most of the actual switches are shared by the plastic bits stuck to them which you touch are not. Sound deadening materials are significantly different. All the active components in the doors are shared (central locking units, electric windows motors and controllers, etc)
Obviously lights, body panels, etc. are different.
Edited by kambites on Friday 22 July 12:53
1. Daily- Ford Focus RS (http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/ford/focus-rs/focus-rs-mk3-2016-lux-pack-sync2-shell-seats-heated-steering-wheel/5959334?v=c
Looks Great in this spec !!
2. Track fun- KTM x-bow http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/k...
3. Classic cruiser- 1950 Mercury but would have to be made very low
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mercury/all-models/1950-mercury-v-8-6-passenger-coupe/4832496?v=c
Looks Great in this spec !!
2. Track fun- KTM x-bow http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/k...
3. Classic cruiser- 1950 Mercury but would have to be made very low
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