Adblue and my passat

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RammyMP

6,784 posts

154 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Rich_W said:
Sheepshanks said:
RammyMP said:
I've just brimmed mine to see how much it uses, just out of interest, 1.5l per 1000 miles.
I think Audi do something dodgy to extend the range as they claimed it would last between services.

Our Tiguan uses a litre about every 400 miles but other Tiguan owners are reporting greater use than that.
Salesmen lie to customers. laugh

In other news. Sky Blue. Sea Wet.
The salesman didn't mention anything about it.

Sky is grey by the way.

colin2296fs

123 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
My tractor, which I think is Tier 3B uses about 2 percent of it's fuel volume in urea by way of comparison. I think later machines go up to 4% but could be wrong. I don't think it uses any EGR though the later models do.
at least if you have a tractor you probably will have your own adblu manufacturing facility as well

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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colin2296fs said:
Willy Nilly said:
My tractor, which I think is Tier 3B uses about 2 percent of it's fuel volume in urea by way of comparison. I think later machines go up to 4% but could be wrong. I don't think it uses any EGR though the later models do.
at least if you have a tractor you probably will have your own adblu manufacturing facility as well
It comes in an IBC (intermediate bulk carrier, 1000 litres) and is about 45ppl. I saw some for sale in a leading supermarket and nearly fell over when I read the price.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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RammyMP said:
Rich_W said:
Sheepshanks said:
RammyMP said:
I've just brimmed mine to see how much it uses, just out of interest, 1.5l per 1000 miles.
I think Audi do something dodgy to extend the range as they claimed it would last between services.

Our Tiguan uses a litre about every 400 miles but other Tiguan owners are reporting greater use than that.
Salesmen lie to customers. laugh

In other news. Sky Blue. Sea Wet.
The salesman didn't mention anything about it.

Sky is grey by the way.
Then who told you it would last between Services, which could be 18K apart! laugh


CoolHands

18,681 posts

196 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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What happens if you don't fill it up. Why should you? What negative effect would it have?

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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CoolHands said:
What happens if you don't fill it up. Why should you? What negative effect would it have?
The car wont start!

AdBlue is part of the type conformity. The car has to use it to meet the emissions regulations. As a result the car wont start if it's empty. You could always fill it with water instead. Since the system just squirts it into the DPF.

I suspect in time, this will be like DPFs where unscrupulous types who have a diesel when they have no actual need for such a thing as they do 3K a year. Will be mapping out the adblue somehow. Probably for a cost more than just filling the damn thing with adBlue for 50thousand miles. laugh

DanielSan

18,806 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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This thread shows how much interest I pay when it comes to new cars then, I didn't even know any cars needed adblue! Even our M.A.N's at work don't need it.

PaulGT3

375 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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Has anyone else had any adblue problems yet?

My mate has a 2016 Skoda Superb (190 dsg 4x4 L&k estate) with 10k miles on and the adblue system has failed, it's been at skoda 5 weeks now and they have replaced the entire adblue system and it's still not fixed. He's been given a 1.6tdi manual passat as a courtesy car and obviously isn't very impressed to be paying ~450 a month for the superb to drive around in the base model passat!

Sheepshanks

32,804 posts

120 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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PaulGT3 said:
Has anyone else had any adblue problems yet?
No, but I've seen quite a lot of problems reported in US VW forums where they've had Ad Blue for a few years.

The emissions systems on this engine seem ferociously complicated - I thought Ad Blue was supposed to do away with the EGR system, but turns out it has not one, but two!

I really wouldn't like to own one of these out of warranty - and an extended warranty might not cover this sort of thing. Wish I'd leased it (ours is Tiguan).

veevee

1,455 posts

152 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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PaulGT3 said:
Has anyone else had any adblue problems yet?

My mate has a 2016 Skoda Superb (190 dsg 4x4 L&k estate) with 10k miles on and the adblue system has failed, it's been at skoda 5 weeks now and they have replaced the entire adblue system and it's still not fixed. He's been given a 1.6tdi manual passat as a courtesy car and obviously isn't very impressed to be paying ~450 a month for the superb to drive around in the base model passat!
I wouldn't be very impressed paying ~450 a month to drive around in a 2.0tdi Skoda either, to be fair.

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

117 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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veevee said:
I wouldn't be very impressed paying ~450 a month to drive around in a 2.0tdi Skoda either, to be fair.
hehe

PaulGT3

375 posts

173 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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veevee said:
I wouldn't be very impressed paying ~450 a month to drive around in a 2.0tdi Skoda either, to be fair.
Me neither but it's his work tool for doing 20k a year in and lugging lots of tools round. He has 380bhp evo 5 for fun smile

swisstoni

17,032 posts

280 months

Thursday 20th October 2016
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DanielSan said:
This thread shows how much interest I pay when it comes to new cars then, I didn't even know any cars needed adblue! Even our M.A.N's at work don't need it.
My brother is quite unwell and frail. He bought a Tiguan and didn't realise that
a) he had to mess around with something called Adblue at all
and
b) that the filler was underneath the spare as mentioned earlier !

He has to get someone to help him with this shambles of a design every time it needs topping up.

Sheepshanks

32,804 posts

120 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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swisstoni said:
He has to get someone to help him with this shambles of a design every time it needs topping up.
VW has mandated that its dealers will do it while-u-wait for £1.50 per litre.

swisstoni

17,032 posts

280 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
swisstoni said:
He has to get someone to help him with this shambles of a design every time it needs topping up.
VW has mandated that its dealers will do it while-u-wait for £1.50 per litre.
Thanks, I'll make sure he knows that.

generationx

6,766 posts

106 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Another one here who had no idea about this "technology". I presume this is just modern vehicles - it's never been mentioned with our 2007 Golf.

thecremeegg

1,964 posts

204 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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Never heard of this stuff until this thread - everyday's a school day!

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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swisstoni said:
Sheepshanks said:
swisstoni said:
He has to get someone to help him with this shambles of a design every time it needs topping up.
VW has mandated that its dealers will do it while-u-wait for £1.50 per litre.
Thanks, I'll make sure he knows that.
I thought a tank full of AdBlue was supposed to last the full interval between services?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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veevee said:
PaulGT3 said:
Has anyone else had any adblue problems yet?

My mate has a 2016 Skoda Superb (190 dsg 4x4 L&k estate) with 10k miles on and the adblue system has failed, it's been at skoda 5 weeks now and they have replaced the entire adblue system and it's still not fixed. He's been given a 1.6tdi manual passat as a courtesy car and obviously isn't very impressed to be paying ~450 a month for the superb to drive around in the base model passat!
I wouldn't be very impressed paying ~450 a month to drive around in a 2.0tdi Skoda either, to be fair.
I'd be even less impressed with the boggo Passat though. Reckon he should at least work out the difference in monthly cost between the top-end Superb and the bottom-end Passat and get that back from them as a minimum.

Herbs

4,916 posts

230 months

Friday 21st October 2016
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thecremeegg said:
Never heard of this stuff until this thread - everyday's a school day!
Me too - what is it?