Cool or fool? (Warning - 'DUB scene' content)....

Cool or fool? (Warning - 'DUB scene' content)....

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Dave Hedgehog

14,541 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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It's an idiotic car fashion but it's not going to go away any time soon

But as said its his car so good luck to him

MiggyA

193 posts

99 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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The thing that makes it better than all the other stancetastic vag-mobiles is the lack of negative camber so it doesn't look so tragically broken.

bobbo89

5,151 posts

144 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I'll openly admit to being a 'Dubber' but this kind of car is a bit of a scene within the scene that some like and some hate.

There's very little going on here other than a 4-pot diesel with 2.5k's worth of air-ride and £1.5k's worth of wheels. People say there's a lot of effort gone into it but to get a company to install air bags and then bolt on some wheels really isn't very difficult!

blueg33

35,574 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I like it to look at, not sure what it will be like to drive. Not a fan of stretched tyres

spookly

4,011 posts

94 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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1/10 - needs faux Hawaiian flower garland hanging from the rear view mirror and some surf/yoof stickers.

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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bobbo89 said:
There's very little going on here other than a 4-pot diesel with 2.5k's worth of air-ride and £1.5k's worth of wheels. People say there's a lot of effort gone into it but to get a company to install air bags and then bolt on some wheels really isn't very difficult!
Took the words right out of my mouth.

Vitorio

4,296 posts

142 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I like it quite a bit, but it needs to sit 1-2 inches higher, have non idiotic rims and properly sized tires, the rest looks about as good as a rocco ever will.

OwenK

3,472 posts

194 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Vitorio said:
I like it quite a bit, but it needs to sit 1-2 inches higher, have non idiotic rims and properly sized tires, the rest looks about as good as a rocco ever will.
So you like it except for the bits that aren't standard Scirocco, and the bits that are standard Scirocco are ok but are just standard Scirocco. Did I get that right? rofl

Vitorio

4,296 posts

142 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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OwenK said:
So you like it except for the bits that aren't standard Scirocco, and the bits that are standard Scirocco are ok but are just standard Scirocco. Did I get that right? rofl
I was under the impression that the front was rather non standard as well, comparing it to some google pics, it only has an aftermarket splitter boxedin

I wouldnt necessarily need stock wheels though, i just think these things are hideous.

foxsasha

1,416 posts

134 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Looks fantastic. Wouldn't want to drive it though.

dub16v

1,115 posts

140 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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Love it.

Dog Star

16,079 posts

167 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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I think it looks ace

culpz

4,881 posts

111 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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It is cool but he/she probably is a fool. I love the look of it but it must completely ruin the ride and drive of the car. It does really suit the car though in all fairness.

I prefer the OEM+ look. I adopted the same thing on my Scirocco. I put on chrome exhaust tips, LED sidelights and number plate lights, black front and rear VW badges, lowered it on 35mm H&R springs and bought some 18" replica R wheels that i put on and had sprayed gloss black.

It looked different enough to stand out from other 'Rocco's but still quite subtle and not too much to ruin it. Looked perfect IMO and didn't compromise the ride/drive.

Butter Face

30,191 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th July 2016
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thebraketester said:
bobbo89 said:
There's very little going on here other than a 4-pot diesel with 2.5k's worth of air-ride and £1.5k's worth of wheels. People say there's a lot of effort gone into it but to get a company to install air bags and then bolt on some wheels really isn't very difficult!
Took the words right out of my mouth.
I have to agree. I appreciate when you see a car that has actually had some work put into it, but cars like this are normally bought from the dealer, driven to a garage where they fit some bolt on air ride and wheels with tyres that don't quite fit and 'hey presto'.

Not my cuppa smile

Ray Luxury-Yacht

Original Poster:

8,910 posts

215 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I'm delighted at everyone's response about this car picture, thank you all so much!

What is the most interesting to me, is that it has galvanised opinions to a polar degree - posters are either in a love it or hate it camp. No-one has said that they're not really bothered one way or the other.

As I said in my OP, I'm usually not a fan of ridiculous mods or Dub scene rubbish.....and I especially hate the trend of 'stancing' and having ridiculous wheel camber, and tyres stretched over rims......that's all ridiculous.

However that's not evident here.....and whether it is a Diesel 'Rocco or not (I've no idea, I didn't check) and even if the owner didn't do any of the work himself, and just paid out for someone to fit airbags and expensive wheels.....as a car enthusiast, it just caught my attention, and I thought it looked.....well, nice!

It would be a boring world if we all liked the same things, so I am grateful that there's such a difference of opinion...it's what gives us such diversity!

Keep the comments coming, it is fascinating to hear what people think....


Adz The Rat

13,944 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I used to be into this sort of thing but have lost interest now, though I don't mind that one, looks pretty good.

Air suspension doesn't ruin the handling like people think, though the wheels / tyre combo wont help.

A friend in the US has an air setup on his 964 and when running proper wheels he says it handles better than the H&R setup he had on before.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

117 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
Nice to look at.

Horrible to drive.

Lack of sticker bomb loses points for me......8/10
daveofedinburgh said:
My instinct is to immediately look down my nose at anything that is obviously on 'air' like this. I have to admit though, it has a certain charm mainly on account of being pretty stock other than wheels/ suspension. It also appears to be done to quite a high standard and no doubt required some skill/ knowhow to put together.

My main gripe as it seems to be with many other PHers is that any 'handling' the standard car had is likely ruined due to the suspension mod.

It's been a long time since I paid any attention to this kind of modification, and I'm assuming that air/ hydraulic type suspension still ruins the cars handling just as much as it did back in the Max Power era? Maybe there have been advances and it's no longer the huge compromise/ detriment it once was- would be happy to hear if I'm simply out of touch with this tech...

It's most definitely a mod/ look for those <30y/o imho. Smacks of a young chap who may indeed still live at home with parents. I can't see many 'professional' people being inclined to drive around in a 'slammed' car... probably just indicates that at the ripe old age of 34 Im too concerned with my own image/ perception to 'get it'.

Having said all that, I'd still be quite happy to drive eg. a lowered 90s Jap performance car without feeling like a tragic old man trying to be 'down with the kids'. So long as the car has some real 'performance' credibility I don't mind it being low/ obviously modified. Joe Public may not make the distinction, but a mkiv Supra on good coilovers is a very different proposition to a (possibly diesel) FWD VAG hatch on air.

If the driver is early/ mid 20s, he may have actually built a pretty 'cool' car for himself. When I was that age I still liked cheap bodykits and big exhausts...
Have any of you actually driven a car with air ride?
I owned a Mk5 GTI before I got my Scirocco. - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=141...
It had air ride - it handled really well. Better than stock absolutely. Not as good as a set of high end coilovers (eg KW V3) but better than AP type coiloveres for sure.

This thread (not necessarily the quoted posts) highlights the two extremes of car enthusiast and I don't mean that in a nice way. Some of the scornful, judgemental and nasty things said do not really show me that we are respectful of other peoples opinions.

I got out of the air ride / expensive wheels (my suspension was 3750, my wheels owed me about £2000 by the time they were built up, plus thousands in other little bit) and replaced the Mk5 GTI with a diesel Scirocco, which is my track project.

I much prefer the motorsport type modifications but I can still appreciate air ride and "show" type mods. Yes, there is a lot of "samey samey" but that's because there are only so many OEM + type modifications you can do. There's no point doing something different if it looks absolutely horrible (eg big bodykits etc).

Times change, hence why we have moved from the huge fibreglass bodykits of the 80s and 90's back to a more OEM Plus style modifications. Each to their own, people should not be judged / mocked for their decisions of how to spend THEIR money.

Bennet

2,119 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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I can kind of see how this could look cool in isolation. But leather trench coats and sunglasses look cool in isolation, yet still quite embarrassing walking around Tesco.

Toyoda

1,557 posts

99 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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It's a very flattering picture, looks great from that angle.

Bennet

2,119 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th July 2016
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xjay1337 said:
Each to their own, people should not be judged / mocked for their decisions of how to spend THEIR money.
You (as in "you" in general) are free to spend your money however you see fit, and the rest of the world is free to find your decision intelligent or worthy of ridicule. You are free to demand not to be interfered with or discriminated against, but you are not free to demand approval of the rest of society who doesn't understand what you're playing at.