Hard wearing tyre.

[Dal3D]

Zerotonine said:

I have always found P6000s to be ditchfinders but they last damn near forever.

Generally you can have either grip (that wears away rubber) or longevity - not both.

[Sheepshanks]

jon- said:

Sheepshanks said:

I don't know what's so different about tyres in the US, but it's common to get very high mileage guarantees there - I've seen up to 80K.

Most Michelin tyres (same models as we get here) are in the 40-50K range.

Different market, different tyres. The extra wear the americans get comes at the expensive of wet grip, which is why Continental would never release the ExtremeContact DWS in Europe. It's one of the best rated performance all season tyres in America, but would be awful compared to our rubber.

The Michelin's look the same - they are at the lower end of the mileage guarantees though. http://media.michelinman.com/content/dam/master/Mi...

[matchmaker]

HustleRussell said:

Michelin.

They don't make them any more (AFAIK) but Michelin ZX didn't wear out. Because they didn't grip!

[thebraketester]

thebraketester said:

Have you had the front toe checked?

[Monkeylegend]

thebraketester said:

thebraketester said:

Have you had the front toe checked?

His chiropodist said all was ok but keep a close eye on the in growing.

[jet_noise]

matchmaker said:

HustleRussell said:

Michelin.

They don't make them any more (AFAIK) but Michelin ZX didn't wear out. Because they didn't grip!

My Mk1 Escort van introduced me to a field gateway because of these. The grip was awful. Especially in the wet. On a right angle bend. But they did indeed last. The fronts lastest the 30k miles I had the van!

While we're doing the "it were all fields round here" thing does anyone remember Dunlop World Beater (IIRC) radials? With two red rings because they can lap the world twice!

regards,
Jet

[Audemars]

Monkeylegend said:

My current set of Conti winter TS830 tyres are on 52k and still well above legal.

And everyone was telling me they would melt above 15C

The performance of your winter tyres will be the equivalent of budget ditch finder summer tyres in the summer.

[Löyly]

Audemars said:

The performance of your winter tyres will be the equivalent of budget ditch finder summer tyres in the summer.

Not likely. I had Michelin winters on my Jaguar XJ8 and aside from a little extra noise and a slight decrease in competency, they were fine. Nowhere near as bad as a ditch finder.

[Monkeylegend]

Audemars said:

Monkeylegend said:

My current set of Conti winter TS830 tyres are on 52k and still well above legal.

And everyone was telling me they would melt above 15C

The performance of your winter tyres will be the equivalent of budget ditch finder summer tyres in the summer.

Really, when did you drive my car to find out then?

Stop talking out of your rear end about things you clearly know nothing about

[g3org3y]

wiliferus said:

With reference the p6000s, from threads here my understanding is that they are premium Ditchfinders? Not many people praise them? Happy to be educated.

I had them on my E36 and they weren't that bad, certainly not to the extent that people make out. Didn't die once! I think they suit heavier cars tbh.

[rockandrollmark]

Zerotonine said:

I have always found P6000s to be ditchfinders but they last damn near forever.

On larger / heavier cars they tend to work okay.

[poing]

rockandrollmark said:

Zerotonine said:

I have always found P6000s to be ditchfinders but they last damn near forever.

On larger / heavier cars they tend to work okay.

Yup, more metal to protect you in the crash

[cslwannabe]

Michelin Energy Saver have a wear rating of 400 compared with 220 on some more performance orientated tyres - the higher this figure the longer it will last, theoretically. The Energy Savers on our Skoda have lasted forever and don't seem to have any less grip than the Dunlop SP01s it came with, despite wearing at a much slower rate,.

[anonymous-user]

heavy right front and my michelin cross climates wore after 7k, the rears are still fine at 15k. That is always an issue with FWD. I would just factor in the cost of changes.

If you want to last longer drive like an old biddy.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Saturday 30th July 20:20

[HannsG]

Worst tyre I ever had in terms of wear was Rainsport 3. Lasted 5000 miles on Sean.

Terrible and very soft compared to the Rainsport 2's.

[cslwannabe]

PZero was worst I've encountered for wear and not even that grippy. Rears were down to 3mm after 7800 miles and experienced a blowout. Fronts were shot at 15k miles on a rwd car and also badly cracked at only 12 months old. On top of that it felt like driving on 50p pieces after the car had been parked up for any length of time as the tyres flat spotted. The dunlop sp9000s lasted 50k miles on the fronts of my 330ci in comparison!

[TheInternet]

You need more rubber to wear through. What are the biggest, widest, deepest treadiest ones you can get? Winters?

[wiliferus]

TheInternet said:

You need more rubber to wear through. What are the biggest, widest, deepest treadiest ones you can get? Winters?

Funny you should say that - I went for a compromise and ordered a set of All Seasons.. Vred Quatracs to be precise. Theory being in my tiny mind they might be a harder compound. Also the rears are at about 3mm, so will get them done with a matching pair before the winter and I should be set for the pathetic winters the South East gets

Thanks for the advice gents.

[gazza285]

Check your front bushes. My V70 was going through tyres at the same rate, and the steering was a little vague under heavy braking, the bushes felt fine with the wheels off the ground, but my local garage's play detectors found 10mm of fore-aft movement in the front wheels, feels much better under braking, and the tyres are lasting better now.

As for the wife's habit of spinning the steering wheel whilst the car is stationary, I haven't managed to cure that yet.

[HustleRussell]

HannsG said:

Worst tyre I ever had in terms of wear was Rainsport 3. Lasted 5000 miles on Sean.

You named your car 'Sean'? Cute.