What do you want them to build?

What do you want them to build?

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kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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I like the idea of the Rocket but the price looks daft compared to other lightweight bike-engined cars.

Mind you, getting a four-wheeler under 400kg is mighty impressive.

CABC

5,575 posts

101 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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kambites said:
I like the idea of the Rocket but the price looks daft compared to other lightweight bike-engined cars.

Mind you, getting a four-wheeler under 400kg is mighty impressive.
purity.
and a certain GM to the pedigree.
on the one hand the market doesn't want proper drivers' cars, but then did it ever?
you need to pay more, but even then the quality now is better than ever.
Elise and MX5s are the exception that go under the radar as girly/toy cars. Even a 50k Elise is good value imo. not many agree tho.

Sway

26,260 posts

194 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Yeah that. Plus the level of bespoke componentry, all designed by a stunning team. Also one of the first road legal bike engined cars.

Lose things like the transaxle and they would have been quite a bit cheaper. Uprights, hubs, etc. too.

Can't help but think that a modern composite tub with moulded in cockpit, firewall mounted engine cradle so nvh is reduced a tad, and greater use of off the shelf components could give a cheaper, safer and not much heavier car for similar dosh to it's original asking price. That'd be worth it over most of the alternatives.

clarki

1,313 posts

219 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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That new Renault alpine thingamajig that's being doing the rounds for years. Just get it built!!

MitchT

15,865 posts

209 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Basically an Alfa 4C Spider with a normally aspirated 3.0 V6 and £20k cheaper.

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Or an enlarged Elise with a V6 in the middle (No, not the old and cramped Exige S
An Evora?

paulrockliffe

15,697 posts

227 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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A 2 seater mini as close to the size of the original at possible.

aww999

2,068 posts

261 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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A two-seater 1000kg car with a proper roof, a V8 in the front and a manual gearbox driving the rear wheels. Something like an MX5 with an LS swap, or a 3/4 scale Corvette C6.

Mr Tidy

22,310 posts

127 months

Friday 29th July 2016
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A bit over budget, but other than that I would have thought a GT86 is pretty close to what the OP is looking for!

I test drove one in 2014 as a birthday present to myself! It drove really well (when I finally got to drive it) but I spent longer talking about P/Ex values, options and finance than driving. frown

6 weeks later I went to look at a Z4 Coupe advertised privately for about one third of the money - put a deposit on it straight away!

OK so a Z4C may have a stereo and climate control and weigh rather more than 1,100kg, but sitting just in front of the rear wheels with a 3 litre straight 6 mounted more behind the front axle line than above it does provide plenty of entertainment! More than the GT86 for me.

GrizzlyBear

1,072 posts

135 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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bobbo89 said:
Turning Japanese said:
Is there a car configuration you wish manufacturers would make. Below is mine and as far as I know there isn't anyone building it?

Small 2 seat coupe with front-mid engine and rear wheel drive weighing around 950kg.
Around 130bhp 1.6 16v twin cam high reving engine.
6 speed manual gearbox with LSD.
Double wishbone suspension front and rear.
16" alloy wheels.
No aircon or radio.
Electric windows and remote locking, nothing else.
Under £20k
Pretty much spot on what I want apart from I'd rather have a radio over central locking and electric windows. I can get over winding down a window occasionally as well as using a key but regardless of how you use the car, there will always be motorway miles and times sat in traffic when a bit of music helps!
Agree entirely, never been fussed with electric windows.

I would add a rear windscreen wiper - it amazes me people consider a car with out one, and a boot large enough for at least a holdall.

Most of all daily driver reliability...

Since this is all hypothetical, and I expect a car like this is too niche for production. I would like a cam-chain, pre-cat engine just to keep things nice and simple and get that straight through exhaust sound.

RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Have a diesel Octavia VRS as a daily at the mo, happy with it but want to go back to petrol next.
Skoda do a perky petrol VRS but only in fwd with 230bhp.
They do the diesel in awd

What I want is the petrol 230bhp spec (or preferably 280/300 from the Leon or Golf) with the awd and a manual box.
All the components are there I just can't order them in the one car!

Would also be happy to see a yeti VRS of any sort but preferably the awd 280/300 combo above as then it would be like a modern Forester STI
Seen there is a guy who put the Audi TTRS running gear in one which is ace.

Klippie

3,138 posts

145 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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My standard Swift Sport is a blast but I'd like Suzuki to build one with 200bhp & 200lb/ft of torque and a fancy 4WD system...basically a little rally car for the road.

My money is waiting.

TekoTime

96 posts

96 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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I want them to make a car just like the McLaren P1 but sell it for £5,000.

Or a GT86 with 300bhp. And £5,000.

Or a Porsche Cayman GT4 with more cup holders. And £5,000.

Or an M5 for the same price as a 316d, but preferably £5,000.

Or a good looking electric/hybrid car.

A man can dream.

LP670

822 posts

126 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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a gt86 with a honda s2000 engine and 90~100kg lighter. should give it 200 bhp/ton then

Bristol spark

4,382 posts

183 months

Saturday 30th July 2016
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Transit Custom sized van with a petrol V8 and RWD smile

Engine choices in vans are dreadful!

aeropilot

34,568 posts

227 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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Bristol spark said:
Transit Custom sized van with a petrol V8 and RWD smile

Engine choices in vans are dreadful!
laugh

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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One of these:-

In a fancy dress like this:-

Sub £50k smile

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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mike9009 said:
mk1 MR2 almost fits the bill if you count reverse as the '6th' gear.

Mike
Mine's got 6 forward speeds (and 160 hp) wink

However no wishbones to be found frown

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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a new MR2 Roadster, manual with a 3 pot turbo engine that can scream to 9k with short ratio's and circa 20-25k, and do 50mpg+ when not on it


Turning Japanese

Original Poster:

62 posts

101 months

Monday 1st August 2016
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kambites said:
Ignoring the budget (which frankly isn't realistic for something that specialist), this fits the OP's description reasonably well:

http://www.pistonheads.com/road-tests/road-tests/d...

For me, I can't realistically see anything bettering my Elise without being an order of magnitude more expensive, which is why I've had it for nine years now and have no intention of replacing it. smile

Edited by kambites on Friday 29th July 20:34
I don't think the budget is unrealistic, Mazda almost makes that car. If they could build a proper fixed coupe version of the current MX5 that would be perfect. They even did a few for the mk1 and mk2 but in very limited number and only for Japan.
They could offer 2 different trim levels, one stripped out and back to basics for enthusiasts (a bit like the Ginetta G40R) and another more luxurious spec with all the toys and creature comforts. I really think it would sell and it would be much more practical than the soft top version because it could have a bigger boot. Toyota ALMOST got it right with the GT86, I just hope they build the SFR.