F-type - can anyone please explain...

F-type - can anyone please explain...

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robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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nickfrog said:
What you're saying Rob is that the V6 is aggressively priced compared to the V8 which sounds about right. Did you drive a mid-engined Porsche before or since then ?
Dunno, price wasn't an issue for me. I've had a 997GT3 but not a mid engine Porsche.
Funny enough, my F-Type was actually reliable as opposed to every other JLR product i've brought.

If the OP or someone is considering one, then I'd recommend it. A little more unique than a Boxster too.


philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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I let a V6S out of a side road today and he shot off up the road in the other direction, didn't sound a patch on my XFR !

I'm not even close to be in a position to buy a new one, but it would have to be the V8 and nothing else, the sound is just heaven.

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Sunday 31st July 2016
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philmots said:
I let a V6S out of a side road today and he shot off up the road in the other direction, didn't sound a patch on my XFR !

I'm not even close to be in a position to buy a new one, but it would have to be the V8 and nothing else, the sound is just heaven.
The exhaust is switchable, the exhaust is loud when in Sports but not as loud as V8 AMG btw.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Take a 340PS engine; how much (in £) would be reasonable to safely and reliably increase it to 510PS in the aftermarket, a 50% power hike? That would probably be bore and stroke, new cams and FI tweaks, everything else, and the removal of the warranty.

Looking at some similar-power cars, the base 911 is just over £76k and 370hp; the Turbo is £127k and 540hp, and the Turbo S is £146k for 580hp.

So for Jaguar to increase power by 170PS it costs £34k; for Porsche to increase power by 170hp it costs £51k (and then a further £19k for another 40hp).

Pintofbest

805 posts

111 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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xRIEx said:
Take a 340PS engine; how much (in £) would be reasonable to safely and reliably increase it to 510PS in the aftermarket, a 50% power hike? That would probably be bore and stroke, new cams and FI tweaks, everything else, and the removal of the warranty.

Looking at some similar-power cars, the base 911 is just over £76k and 370hp; the Turbo is £127k and 540hp, and the Turbo S is £146k for 580hp.

So for Jaguar to increase power by 170PS it costs £34k; for Porsche to increase power by 170hp it costs £51k (and then a further £19k for another 40hp).
The V8 is now 550 or near as dammit so the increase in the Jag is actually 210 for the cash (with lots of other stuff too).

xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Pintofbest said:
xRIEx said:
Take a 340PS engine; how much (in £) would be reasonable to safely and reliably increase it to 510PS in the aftermarket, a 50% power hike? That would probably be bore and stroke, new cams and FI tweaks, everything else, and the removal of the warranty.

Looking at some similar-power cars, the base 911 is just over £76k and 370hp; the Turbo is £127k and 540hp, and the Turbo S is £146k for 580hp.

So for Jaguar to increase power by 170PS it costs £34k; for Porsche to increase power by 170hp it costs £51k (and then a further £19k for another 40hp).
The V8 is now 550 or near as dammit so the increase in the Jag is actually 210 for the cash (with lots of other stuff too).
Oh yeah, I was getting mixed up with the 510PS engine most of the other R models, and the 495PS engine which was in the V8S; as you say, the F-type R is 550.

J4CKO

41,622 posts

201 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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I know the V6 and the S have other differences but I read that but can both be remapped fairly cheaply to 400 bhp which for a V6 is a good hike of 60 bhp which should be enough for most owners, the V8 can go from 500 ish to 560, which is probably overkill.

edo

16,699 posts

266 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Over £40k lost in 16k or £2.50 a mile.

For reference, the cheapest 2 year old 911 for sale on AT is £68k.




xRIEx

8,180 posts

149 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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edo said:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Over £40k lost in 16k or £2.50 a mile.

For reference, the cheapest 2 year old 911 for sale on AT is £68k.
That's an S, not an R - was that ever over £90k?

ETA: £75k according to a 2013 article.

FETA: The cheapest 2014 911 Turbo (a closer comparison to the V8, power-wise) is £103k for a 12,000 mile example, or £2/mile.

Edited by xRIEx on Monday 8th August 20:22

Ozzie Osmond

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21,189 posts

247 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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I suspect the F-type S is decent value. Some great cars around that price keep things competitive.

Harji

2,200 posts

162 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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edo said:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Over £40k lost in 16k or £2.50 a mile.

For reference, the cheapest 2 year old 911 for sale on AT is £68k.
Maybe it's the colour but that doesn't even look a like it's worth even 40K.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

141 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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Although positioning in the market is present, there is actually quite a lot different between the base model V6 and the V8 models.

The base model V6 has an open diff for starters - the V6S gained a mechanical limited slip diff and the V8 models got the same active diff in the XFR-S.

Compare the spec sheets. There's a load of stuff in the V8 you don't get in the base model besides the 2 extra cylinders.

Whether it makes the car better or worse is personal. I'd go for the V6S if it were me. A manual one a that.