RE: 2017MY Range Rover updates

RE: 2017MY Range Rover updates

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gangzoom

6,304 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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I've just ordered a Tesla Model X(originally had ordered the S). Cheaper than the base RangeRover, quicker to 60, alot more tech, and in the 6 seater congif we ordered alot more passenger comfort. No the X cannot go offroad like a RangeRover, but how many RangeRover owners actually take them off road.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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mikearwas said:
I love petrol engines like everyone else on here but I'm genuinely perplexed as to why they would bother integrating the petrol v6 on this? The diesel 6 is an epic power plant and far far more suitable for the car.
Don't some parts of London pretty much demand petrol or electric now? I've heard of councils making it hard for diesel owners.

And not everyone wants the 500 horsepower V8, shocking as I find it!

W124

1,541 posts

138 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Being in the odd position of driving the RR/RR sport and XC90 regularly (sometimes on the same day) I feel I ought to say the RR cars feel a generation or two behind the Volvo. Sit behind the wheel and the price difference just seems way, way too much of a stretch.

dickyf

807 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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when do expect delivery?
gangzoom said:
I've just ordered a Tesla Model X(originally had ordered the S). Cheaper than the base RangeRover, quicker to 60, alot more tech, and in the 6 seater congif we ordered alot more passenger comfort. No the X cannot go offroad like a RangeRover, but how many RangeRover owners actually take them off road.

mikearwas

1,112 posts

159 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Nanook said:
mikearwas said:
I love petrol engines like everyone else on here but I'm genuinely perplexed as to why they would bother integrating the petrol v6 on this? The diesel 6 is an epic power plant and far far more suitable for the car.
We'll agree to disagree about the diesel 6 being epic, but the petrol engine has 80bhp on the diesel engine. Less torque, obviously, but more powerful and quicker.

I've had a few diesel 4x4s. Wouldn't have another.
For a Diesel engine the new SDV6 with over 300bhp and 516ft lb is indeed epic. You are referring to the older lower powered engine.

Curiously though they don't seem to have put the SDV6 into the FFRR. So I would agree with you on taking the petrol ol until they did so.

Edited by mikearwas on Wednesday 10th August 16:57

Marvtec

421 posts

159 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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gangzoom said:
I've just ordered a Tesla Model X(originally had ordered the S). Cheaper than the base RangeRover, quicker to 60, alot more tech, and in the 6 seater congif we ordered alot more passenger comfort. No the X cannot go offroad like a RangeRover, but how many RangeRover owners actually take them off road.
Bizarre comparison.

beanoir

1,327 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Hopefully the MY17 RRS will get the new infotainment setup too!

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Looks to have the InControl Touch Pro, seems to be the bigger screen out of the F-Pace, I found it "ok" but nowhere near top of its class. It is a decent step up from the old system though.

jhonn

1,567 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Impasse said:
I remember a few years ago reading of Land Rover's plans to take the even further RR upmarket with talk of V12s and super-exclusive options. Back then (just as the L322 was being launched, so around 2002) the predicted price of £100k+ seemed absurd and fanciful. Now a £132k pricetag is just another model in the brochure - but without a V12.
With the introduction of the decidedly more expensive and perceived higher premium Bentayga, JLR have the unenviable issue of their product now playing second fiddle. Strange though it may seem the current RR will be seen by some as being 'too cheap'; if it isn't reassuringly expensive it won't be as desirable.
I think we'll see the price of Range Rovers increasing steadily, it is highly likely that this will result in increased sales - it's a strange old world.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Marvtec said:
gangzoom said:
I've just ordered a Tesla Model X(originally had ordered the S). Cheaper than the base RangeRover, quicker to 60, alot more tech, and in the 6 seater congif we ordered alot more passenger comfort. No the X cannot go offroad like a RangeRover, but how many RangeRover owners actually take them off road.
Bizarre comparison.
Indeed it is.

modeller

445 posts

166 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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whoami said:
Indeed it is.
No it isn't. The X is in the Sport/FFRR bracket for price and desirability and is far the better vehicle in urban environments.

gangzoom

6,304 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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whoami said:
Indeed it is.
Why is it bizzar, sizewise very similar, price similar.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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gangzoom said:
whoami said:
Indeed it is.
Why is it bizzar, sizewise very similar, price similar.
Very few people considering a Range Rover would compare it to a Tesla.

And vice versa.

DPSFleet

192 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Mine's already on order. (to replace my current RRS) nothing else comes close, best car in the world.....

swisstoni

17,019 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Certainly another petrol option is welcome. Only option thus far was the top of the range supercharged job which is overkill for most.

traffman

2,263 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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When i started looking at the Range Rover Sport , the base price was 62k.
For me to able to afford the monthly payments i would have needed 20k deposit. Too much!
My father has a xc60 and although its a nice machine , comparing the feel and materials in the Range Rover products they are a step up .
The Macann ? is a nice looking machine , but they dont include a lot of options that are standard fare on other cars. So your 45k car needs another 10k before its up to a comparable spec.

oldtimer2

728 posts

133 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Although unlikely to be of much interest here, the reported changes to the tow assist function look to be genuinely useful for those challenged when reversing their horse box/caravan/boat on trailer. No doubt it will appear on other JLR products that target those that need or want to tow trailers; it looks like a market leading feature.

I assume the addition of the V6 petrol is as a hedge against the possible punitive taxation/regulation of diesels.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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porkercurtis said:
Not everyone likes a diesel, even when they are as accomplished as those to be found in Range Rovers, so I welcome the choice of the smaller petrol engine being made available. It will be interesting to see what proportion of sales they achieve.
fully agree to this - I would never buy a diesel range rover or any diesel as a matter of fact. The petrol engines are so smooth and quiet and do remain quiet over their lifetime whereas diesel eventually start clapping

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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oldtimer2 said:
Although unlikely to be of much interest here, the reported changes to the tow assist function look to be genuinely useful for those challenged when reversing their horse box/caravan/boat on trailer. No doubt it will appear on other JLR products that target those that need or want to tow trailers; it looks like a market leading feature.

I assume the addition of the V6 petrol is as a hedge against the possible punitive taxation/regulation of diesels.
I would think so - if/when the restrictions come, Land Rover will be ready. I'm pretty sure that most competitors are diesel only apart from the big V8s (as was the Range Rover until now)

skyrover

12,674 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Because diesel is a horrible polluting fuel?