RE: Bentley Mulsanne: You Know You Want To
Discussion
Charlie_1 said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Not even with your money.
Seriously. These are just money pits that "ordinary" people wont touch. Who actually would buy it is mildly interesting, but if I ever see one, all it tells me is there's someone with more money than sense nearby.
Plenty of alternatives that wont bankrupt you. Take your pick of endless supply from the usual suspects (MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus, etc).
Not really sure what ordinary people are but I do know someone who has a Bentley Continental and he seems quite sensible to me. he bought it at 2 years old has had it for 3 and apart from servicing hasnt spent anything on it , ok service was more expensive than the premium brands you quote but I think he expected that , i suspect what it actually tells you is that there is someone nearby who has more money than you Seriously. These are just money pits that "ordinary" people wont touch. Who actually would buy it is mildly interesting, but if I ever see one, all it tells me is there's someone with more money than sense nearby.
Plenty of alternatives that wont bankrupt you. Take your pick of endless supply from the usual suspects (MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus, etc).
Come back to us when your "friend" has changed cars, and don't forget to tell us what the depreciation hit was. As for whether or not he has more money than me, I don't see what the relevance of that might be, but if you could be bothered (and I don't expect you would), searching on these pages might surprise you.
R8Steve said:
E65Ross said:
How are they money pits? Do they have lots of common faults. Would be interested in hearing more about your experience with them.
£130,000 in depreciation for 8000 miles would probably hurt a lot more than any common faults possibly could.Depreciation is the biggest money pit there is for most cars. A lot of fools on here seem to think otherwise, which is great, because it means others can benefit from their stupidity.
This is as distinct from people who know and recognise depreciation for what it is, and make an INFORMED choice to go ahead. I'm referring to those idiots who stick their head in the sand and blissfully ignore depreciation until it eventually finds them.
Modificata said:
Im sorry but none of the cars you mention are alternatives. You might as well throw in a moped in there as well. As someone else rightly said the Bentley and Rolls are in a class of their own. They are hand build and finished in the best possible way. You can sense, touch, smell and feel where every £ has been spent. I own a number of Mercs and although they are great cars they do not come close to the Bentley. I forget the number of times I have taken the long route home just to sit in the Bentley a little longer.
The options you suggest are now sadly glorified taxis in and around London. Shame really but the image has been tarnished.
Look at the JD Powers quality surveys. One of the brands I mentioned has won it something like 14 or 15 years in a row, and was even the 2007 world car of the year. The options you suggest are now sadly glorified taxis in and around London. Shame really but the image has been tarnished.
It wasn't this car though. I fear some people are putting this car on a pedestal, for reasons that aren't altogether clear.
big_rob_sydney said:
R8Steve said:
E65Ross said:
How are they money pits? Do they have lots of common faults. Would be interested in hearing more about your experience with them.
£130,000 in depreciation for 8000 miles would probably hurt a lot more than any common faults possibly could.Depreciation is the biggest money pit there is for most cars. A lot of fools on here seem to think otherwise, which is great, because it means others can benefit from their stupidity.
This is as distinct from people who know and recognise depreciation for what it is, and make an INFORMED choice to go ahead. I'm referring to those idiots who stick their head in the sand and blissfully ignore depreciation until it eventually finds them.
big_rob_sydney said:
Look at the JD Powers quality surveys. One of the brands I mentioned has won it something like 14 or 15 years in a row, and was even the 2007 world car of the year.
It wasn't this car though. I fear some people are putting this car on a pedestal, for reasons that aren't altogether clear.
Not my experience. It wasn't this car though. I fear some people are putting this car on a pedestal, for reasons that aren't altogether clear.
I've been a Chauffeur for a few people in the last 30 years that owned them & both my immediate bosses have them now.
I've known somebody have several Bentley's on the trot & then decided to buy an AMG S class.
He kept the Merc about 6 months then chopped it for another Arnage. When he was asked why he got rid of the Merc he said it was boring because nothing broke or fell off!!
In days of yore models like the Eight, Mulsanne S, Turbo & Arnage were very expensive to service, we used to joke that my then boss was sending it (Turbo R then Arnage T) for an annual refit, the owners just seemed to expect & accept it!!
Since the purchase by VW the reliability has improved considerably & annual services with the franchise do not seem too OTT now.
One of my bosses has a W12 GTC that is on about 50k & has only required standard servicing & the other has a V8 Spur that at only 18 months old & about 20k has only had a problem with the sunroof blind, his daughter forced it open or something, & his previous W12 Spur had no issues when sold @ 72k although I do think it was starting to get slow to select reverse.
I can't comment on the current Mulsanne reliability, we only had a demo car for a week, he decided to stay with the Spur but I would think it's a more reliable car these days.
I said in an earlier post, it was nice, but something was missing for me.
Our local Bentley agent has a 2015 car, done 9.5k priced at £144.950!!!
A couple of months ago you could have bought a brand new unregistered Mulsanne Speed for £160k
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was offered one. List was £298k.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was offered one. List was £298k.
wilwak said:
A couple of months ago you could have bought a brand new unregistered Mulsanne Speed for £160k
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was offered one. List was £298k.
Did you do it?http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was offered one. List was £298k.
big_rob_sydney said:
R8Steve said:
E65Ross said:
How are they money pits? Do they have lots of common faults. Would be interested in hearing more about your experience with them.
£130,000 in depreciation for 8000 miles would probably hurt a lot more than any common faults possibly could.Depreciation is the biggest money pit there is for most cars. A lot of fools on here seem to think otherwise, which is great, because it means others can benefit from their stupidity.
This is as distinct from people who know and recognise depreciation for what it is, and make an INFORMED choice to go ahead. I'm referring to those idiots who stick their head in the sand and blissfully ignore depreciation until it eventually finds them.
big_rob_sydney said:
Not even with your money.
Seriously. These are just money pits that "ordinary" people wont touch. Who actually would buy it is mildly interesting, but if I ever see one, all it tells me is there's someone with more money than sense nearby.
Plenty of alternatives that wont bankrupt you. Take your pick of endless supply from the usual suspects (MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus, etc).
What? You would rather spend 100k on a new Lexus, Audi or BMW and so on..?! Are you mad. They will instantly lose tens of thousands...you might as well buy the bentley as its done half of its depreciation already. None of them have the presence or prestige of the Bentley, and very few of them have an engine with the history and character of the 6.75L.Seriously. These are just money pits that "ordinary" people wont touch. Who actually would buy it is mildly interesting, but if I ever see one, all it tells me is there's someone with more money than sense nearby.
Plenty of alternatives that wont bankrupt you. Take your pick of endless supply from the usual suspects (MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus, etc).
Sorry, I just think you couldn't be more wrong!
Jim AK said:
wilwak said:
A couple of months ago you could have bought a brand new unregistered Mulsanne Speed for £160k
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was offered one. List was £298k.
Did you do it?http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I was offered one. List was £298k.
I do keep looking at the Mulsanne though. It wafts....
I know I want to, but unfortunately my finances don't seem to be appropriate! I love these and would have one in an instant if I could - no need for a car like it but I just think they are magnificent and the idea of wafting around Europe in one really appeals.
I saw one near where I live reasonably often, must know someone who lives there as it was often outside - but last time there was a Bentley (with the same reg plate) it was a Bentayga, first I have seen and nowhere near the appeal of the Mulsanne.
I saw one near where I live reasonably often, must know someone who lives there as it was often outside - but last time there was a Bentley (with the same reg plate) it was a Bentayga, first I have seen and nowhere near the appeal of the Mulsanne.
MadDog1962 said:
Well yes and no. I remember being a passenger in a new LS400 back in 1994 when visiting some fairly minted friends in California. Frankly I was blown away by the sheer comfort and refinement of the Lexus. I've repeated the experience in other LS430 and LS460 models in Brunei and Korea (cars owned by local business associates). I don't care what any of the snobs and haters say the LS series Lexus cars are very impressive. I've also experienced several 7 series BMWs and S-class Mercedes Benz products as well as the odd Rolls, though admittedly these were Spirits and Shadows.
Yes you're correct that there's nothing quite like the stuff from Crewe in terms of how they are built and sheer presence. But if you shut your eyes I reckon you'd find the Lexus the better ride, and probably in most ways the Lexus is just as good. It just doesn't make the same sort of statement that a Rolls or Bentley does. If you're not bothered what other people think I reckon a Lexus LS is the way to go.
Just look at this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
or perhaps this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
You could employ a chauffeur for two years with the change left over.
Totally agree with this. Here mine. Could buy 75 of them if you want for the same price.Yes you're correct that there's nothing quite like the stuff from Crewe in terms of how they are built and sheer presence. But if you shut your eyes I reckon you'd find the Lexus the better ride, and probably in most ways the Lexus is just as good. It just doesn't make the same sort of statement that a Rolls or Bentley does. If you're not bothered what other people think I reckon a Lexus LS is the way to go.
Just look at this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
or perhaps this:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
You could employ a chauffeur for two years with the change left over.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
big_rob_sydney said:
Look at the JD Powers quality surveys. One of the brands I mentioned has won it something like 14 or 15 years in a row, and was even the 2007 world car of the year.
It wasn't this car though. I fear some people are putting this car on a pedestal, for reasons that aren't altogether clear.
I dont need to look at a JD Power survey. I've owned or driven all of the above and nothing compares to enjoying a drive of a Rolls or Bentley. I would say that the Continental and Flying Spur is less impressive but still great cars. Comparing to a Merc or the like is not a comparison.It wasn't this car though. I fear some people are putting this car on a pedestal, for reasons that aren't altogether clear.
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