RE: Red Victor at it again!

RE: Red Victor at it again!

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BVB

1,104 posts

154 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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Go Vic!

BVB

1,104 posts

154 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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WCZ said:
the visibility out of the front window looks awful, cant believe this is road legal!
An increasing amount of car drivers (spanners) have a satnav blocking their view as much as this bonnet.

InitialDave

11,933 posts

120 months

Monday 15th August 2016
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WCZ said:
the visibility out of the front window looks awful, cant believe this is road legal!
So? A few seconds, and everything else on the road is behind him.

JaymzDead

1,217 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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It's a great car and I hope he goes out there and does it....however if he's prepared to go to Bahrain why won't he take it out to the States for Drag Week? Everytime I've read interviews with Andy about the car and he's asked about Drag Week he seems to get very spiky about the whole thing. I know that Drag Week takes the whole street car thing to the very edge of what can be classified as 'Street Legal' but by the sound of what he has in the car now he'd be more than a match for Lutz, Larson et al

callyman

3,153 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Passing an IVA test is what makes a car street legal, not something the US comes up with.

Drag week is great yes, but it's not the rule book.

SturdyHSV

10,108 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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callyman said:
Passing an IVA test is what makes a car street legal, not something the US comes up with.

Drag week is great yes, but it's not the rule book.
So why is Larsen's time recognised then if only our rules matter? By that argument, he doesn't need to bother trying to beat 5.88?

callyman

3,153 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Larson's time is recognised as it's street legal where he lives.
He did it outside of drag week too.
I was only saying an IVA test is perhaps far more 'street legal' than they need to be anywhere else.

You don't have to do drag week to hold the record.




Edited by callyman on Tuesday 16th August 10:27

dxbtiger

4,392 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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This needs to go in the 'incongruous supercar' thread parked outside Homebase or something!

Best of luck with the record, might be worth sticking something in our little corner of the forum, not sure if there are an PH'ers currently in Bahrain though.

callyman

3,153 posts

213 months

SturdyHSV

10,108 posts

168 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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callyman said:
You don't have to do drag week to hold the record.
I know that, didn't say otherwise. He 'only' did a 5.95 during drag week, is that right? It's a good event though, it's a shame RV hasn't competed in it, even if just to see the cars compete on a level playing field.

idea

If RV wno't go to the US, and Santa Pod isn't suitable (what's the fastest times that run there then?) what would be REALLY good is to have Larsen's truck out in Bahrain as well!

That way there could be no silly arguments about home advantages or favourable conditions or bias etc. etc.

Ultimately doesn't the world just want to know which one would win?

Camaro

1,419 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Don't see what's wrong with Santa Pod to be honest, by far the best track outside of the USA. Seems to me you could raise a lot less and hire out the Pod and get the record done here.


callyman

3,153 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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SturdyHSV said:
I know that, didn't say otherwise. He 'only' did a 5.95 during drag week, is that right? It's a good event though, it's a shame RV hasn't competed in it, even if just to see the cars compete on a level playing field.

idea

If RV wno't go to the US, and Santa Pod isn't suitable (what's the fastest times that run there then?) what would be REALLY good is to have Larsen's truck out in Bahrain as well!

That way there could be no silly arguments about home advantages or favourable conditions or bias etc. etc.

Ultimately doesn't the world just want to know which one would win?
With Santa pod the track is only good enough 2-3 times a year and then he might get 6 runs at each meeting. The car still needs setting up so here, even with perfect weather just isnt suitable.
As much as Andy and all of his fans would love him to take the record here.
I'd also love to see Larry and Andy side by side once RV3 is set up.
I'm sure they would love to race each other too.

callyman

3,153 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Camaro said:
Don't see what's wrong with Santa Pod to be honest, by far the best track outside of the USA. Seems to me you could raise a lot less and hire out the Pod and get the record done here.
Hire a track and have it race prepped, would cost a massive amount.
Also, Shane T Andy's tuner would need paying to come over.

Bahrain however is race prepped all the time, it's at sea level and they race at night so it's cool.
Shane is there in Bahrain most of the time over our winter.


Even if Andy went to the US, Shane wouldn't be there and he'd have to hire a track etc.

Bahrain was decided on over 18 mths of thinking. It's a no brainer really to go there.


Edited by callyman on Tuesday 16th August 10:49

shakotan

10,710 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Shakermaker said:
R8Steve said:
I can't imagine the emissions reading being very MOT friendly either hehe
Surely the benefit of building this kind of thing on a car registered in what, 1972?
Except now it's registered as a 2015 vehicle after passing an IVA, so has to, and indeed does, conform to much stricter rules than 1972.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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shakotan said:
Shakermaker said:
R8Steve said:
I can't imagine the emissions reading being very MOT friendly either hehe
Surely the benefit of building this kind of thing on a car registered in what, 1972?
Except now it's registered as a 2015 vehicle after passing an IVA, so has to, and indeed does, conform to much stricter rules than 1972.
I did not realise this. Even more impressive then

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Nor are a large proportion of cars that turn up to RWYB and swap over to drag radials.

IIRC, street legal meets include a drive out on public roads pre race.

redvictor

3,152 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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At a race track what are the plod going to stop me for? Speeding?
On the road it has road tyres on. It's a fairly simple concept.
I don't race anyone anymore. We just want to go fast. I've raced for 28 years. I've also already taken a car to the USA and Canada. If anyone wants to challenge me go where I go. I've been to your place twice already.

redvictor

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238 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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It uses race tyres at a race track! Street tyres on the street. So when it touches the street it is legal.
Not so hard to comprehend for me anyway..

shakotan

10,710 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Nanook said:
redvictor said:
At a race track what are the plod going to stop me for? Speeding?
On the road it has road tyres on. It's a fairly simple concept.
I don't race anyone anymore. We just want to go fast. I've raced for 28 years. I've also already taken a car to the USA and Canada. If anyone wants to challenge me go where I go. I've been to your place twice already.
So when they say "Street legal" It's not really. Since the only part of the car that touches the street (ignoring a bar) isn't street legal.

Fair enough, was only asking!
Your point is irrelevant though, since the current holder of the quickest Road Legal car also bolts on slicks at the track, as well as making a host of other changes.

Slicks aren't road legal in any US state, so effectively that levels the playing field where this issue is concerned.

redvictor

3,152 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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Equus said:
...But when it sets the time for which you are claiming its 'fastest street legal' status, it's not?

It would be a bit like claiming the Nurburgring 'production car' lap record with a car equipped with slicks.

How fast would it be on street legal rubber, is the question, I guess?
Or not... It's not hard. It's a street legal car at a race track, that uses racing tyres to race on.
The MOT and insurance are not based on whether it's at a track or not.
We're after a world record. Not one that has 10 things in the title. It's the worlds quickest street legal car in the 1/4 mile only. The American we want to take it from ran on slicks. He dismantles the car between race and street. We don't. We change tyres, add a wheelie bar, and put Methanol in the tank.
How hard is that to comprehend?
Jeez...