RE: Shed of the Week: MG ZT-T
Discussion
I had ZT-T 190 in JRG, which I believe was a press car (first reg MG Rover themselves) and it had every single box on the options list ticked - top of the line HK (BMW) stereo with nav and TV, automatic / electric / auto-dimming everything. It was comfortable, acceptably brisk (very thirsty - max 25 mpg on a run), made a nice noise but felt heavy and was a little fragile. The gearbox mount gave up twice - made a nasty clunking on acceleration and gearchange, I had the airbag warning light issue, though this was frustratingly intermittent. However the thing that killed it off was an overheating issue which lead to it regularly boiling over. This remained undiagnosed (presumably thermostat related), but coupled with the gearbox mount its days were numbered anyway. I traded it in against an A6 Avant diseasal for a measly £700.
Much as I liked the MG as a slightly "alternative" option, it never instilled the feeling of quality and solidity of the Audi(despite the BMW involvement in its production).
Either way this one looks like plenty of car for the money. Drive it until it goes bang........
Much as I liked the MG as a slightly "alternative" option, it never instilled the feeling of quality and solidity of the Audi(despite the BMW involvement in its production).
Either way this one looks like plenty of car for the money. Drive it until it goes bang........
My dad has a lovely Xpower Grey 190, they do sixty in just under 8 sec but the engine is quite refined and a fairly large car so it makes it seem slower than it actually is, you need to view it as a package and not get to worried about on paper figures, it is quick enough, they handle and ride pretty well.
Even the V8 wasnt all that fast in the scheme of things, but that was the entry level one of a range they intended to bring out, they were supposedly going to do a 385 bhp version which would have had the power to back up the image.
Even the V8 wasnt all that fast in the scheme of things, but that was the entry level one of a range they intended to bring out, they were supposedly going to do a 385 bhp version which would have had the power to back up the image.
X5TUU said:
BUT, it doesnt, so I wont ... I never got the whole rebadged Rover OAP series of 25/45/75
blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT
Have you actually driven any of them, or is this based entirely on image concerns? I struggle to imagine anyone finding the ZT bland to drive when compared to its peers. blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT
rtz62 said:
Bought and sold quite a few of these, and have never had any mechanical problems, although VIS motors are another potential pitfall with them, and whilst not that expensive to fix are another thing that is is a cost that is now a high percentage of the actual value of a car.
I don't see the comparison with German marques, you just need to check out the poor quality of. Much of the interior trim to understand why the phrase 'premium brand' is attached to thr likes of VMW, but not the MG.
Plus, as said elsewhere, not a particularly fast car despite its 190bhp (I'd like to know if standard cars actually made, or even approached this, on rolling roads...?)
As such, I always think they look like
but go like
Classic. Made me proper chuckle. Thanks.I don't see the comparison with German marques, you just need to check out the poor quality of. Much of the interior trim to understand why the phrase 'premium brand' is attached to thr likes of VMW, but not the MG.
Plus, as said elsewhere, not a particularly fast car despite its 190bhp (I'd like to know if standard cars actually made, or even approached this, on rolling roads...?)
As such, I always think they look like
but go like
I was talking to a 'proper' mechanic a few weeks ago. He was wringing his hands at just how badly designed the MGF he'd got on his ramp (again) was.
"Look at this, what were they thinking"?
DeltaEvo2 said:
256bhp from a 4.6V8? How come? Didn't the Alfa GTA Sportwagon V6 produce 250bhp or was that the 159?!
It'a a very unstressed engine, with buckets of torque and sounds lovely. I came close to buying one about 8 or 9 years ago. And of course, you can stick a supercharger on it for LOLzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQOlGryDcJs
I really like the ZT. It's a nice car, and assuming you can find one that's been looked after, a great buy at shed money.
DeltaEvo2 said:
soad said:
Two 2.5 V6 versions, 157 (160ps) and 187 (190ps) horses. Then there's a 4.6 V8 with 256 (260ps) horses aka Mustang engine.
256bhp from a 4.6V8? How come? Didn't the Alfa GTA Sportwagon V6 produce 250bhp or was that the 159?!The 4.6 in the Mustang is the same engine that did service, in various states of tune in stuff like the Crown Victoria (and its variants), not a fast car, but one that really did a good job of wafting about the place unobtrusively and sticking it in a car that really wasnt much lighter like the RWD ZT was never going to be the fastest thing around but it did have a following and though it wasnt super fast, it was a good sports saloon.
kambites said:
X5TUU said:
BUT, it doesnt, so I wont ... I never got the whole rebadged Rover OAP series of 25/45/75
blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT
Have you actually driven any of them, or is this based entirely on image concerns? I struggle to imagine anyone finding the ZT bland to drive when compared to its peers. blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT
X5TUU said:
Yeah I had a ZT-T (granted saloon not estate) as a company car for a few weeks till my car was delivered and it accelrated and handled like a pensioners shopping trolley ... Bland, beige, oap mobile
Odd, the ZTs I've driven have had fantastic chassis for a barge. Probably on a par with the 3-series overall and leagues ahead of anything VAG were producing at the time. I guess yours must have been broken.
The thing I like about mine is that it handles far better than any car of it's size/weight/era technically should. You expect a BMW E46 to knife round corners - you don't expect a huge barge like the ZT (based on the king of lardy R75) to do the same - yet it somehow does....
It's the automotive equivalent of a Boeing 747 doing a aerobatics display - utterly ridiculous concept but strangely amusing if you're in the driving seat.
Not quick in paper numbers like other posters have said, but quite fun to fling around an empty B-Road. Just wish the suspension wasn't quite so ridiculously solid all the time (mine is an early production model with the harder tooth-filling-removal suspension fitted). Later ones were softer (but you could still have the sports suspension as an option).
It's the automotive equivalent of a Boeing 747 doing a aerobatics display - utterly ridiculous concept but strangely amusing if you're in the driving seat.
Not quick in paper numbers like other posters have said, but quite fun to fling around an empty B-Road. Just wish the suspension wasn't quite so ridiculously solid all the time (mine is an early production model with the harder tooth-filling-removal suspension fitted). Later ones were softer (but you could still have the sports suspension as an option).
kambites said:
Odd, the ZTs I've driven have had fantastic chassis for a barge. Probably on a par with the 3-series overall and leagues ahead of anything VAG were producing at the time.
I guess yours must have been broken.
Yep, good car to drive.I guess yours must have been broken.
I'd love to find out what a ZT-T saloon is
paint work is shocking oil was very low, below min mark
engine was warm on arrival
no belt history
i walked away
hpi report here: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/Certificate#RL51VZC-zg...
oh back box very rusty and rear calipers / discs
and the arms at the front to the back of the front wheels.
bits of trim missing along the inside bottom of doors
no reciepts just stamps in service book
engine was warm on arrival
no belt history
i walked away
hpi report here: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/Certificate#RL51VZC-zg...
oh back box very rusty and rear calipers / discs
and the arms at the front to the back of the front wheels.
bits of trim missing along the inside bottom of doors
no reciepts just stamps in service book
Edited by dale_vts on Friday 19th August 15:01
X5TUU said:
Scottie - NW said:
cargit786 said:
If it had a German badge on it people would cheerfully pay much much more.
And if it had a Ferrari or Lambo badge they'd pay even more............blander than a bland thing thats bland and painted beige ... not even does the red excite me ... NEXT
dale_vts said:
paint work is shocking oil was very low, below min mark
engine was warm on arrival
no belt history
i walked away
hpi report here: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/Certificate#RL51VZC-zg...
oh back box very rusty and rear calipers / discs
and the arms at the front to the back of the front wheels.
bits of trim missing along the inside bottom of doors
no reciepts just stamps in service book
Thanks for coming off the bench with this. I'd say end of story for most people.engine was warm on arrival
no belt history
i walked away
hpi report here: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/Certificate#RL51VZC-zg...
oh back box very rusty and rear calipers / discs
and the arms at the front to the back of the front wheels.
bits of trim missing along the inside bottom of doors
no reciepts just stamps in service book
Edited by dale_vts on Friday 19th August 15:01
dale_vts said:
paint work is shocking oil was very low, below min mark
engine was warm on arrival
no belt history
i walked away
hpi report here: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/Certificate#RL51VZC-zg...
oh back box very rusty and rear calipers / discs
and the arms at the front to the back of the front wheels.
bits of trim missing along the inside bottom of doors
no reciepts just stamps in service book
To be fair whilst the "warm on arrival" thing would make me run a mile, but the rest are probably acceptable on a £700 car. Spending the extra 500 quid or so to get one in decent condition would probably be wise, though. engine was warm on arrival
no belt history
i walked away
hpi report here: https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/Certificate#RL51VZC-zg...
oh back box very rusty and rear calipers / discs
and the arms at the front to the back of the front wheels.
bits of trim missing along the inside bottom of doors
no reciepts just stamps in service book
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