Man M140i - Adaptive dampers comfort mode w/ sport throttle

Man M140i - Adaptive dampers comfort mode w/ sport throttle

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Billy_Whizzzz

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143 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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In advance of collecting my new manual M140i next week - I have a rather dumb question as I've never had adaptive dampers before... But is it possible to set the dampers to comfort and throttle to sport...? Or is there just one setting for dampers and throttle/steering. If so, how...? The roads are so rough around me that I'm keen to have a relatively soft suspension setting but retain a sharp throttle...

Also - presume that the 135 is the same as not may 140s about yet, but each time it's started, does it default to comfort settings for both suspension and throttle/steering? Are both controlled by the iDrive?

Many thanks!

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Not sure how it works on a manual M140i (nice choice btw!) but in the 335d you can configure the Sport mode via the i-drive for Drivetrain, Chassis or both. In the 335d Drivetrain means putting the auto box into Sport mode with sharper response to the throttle so I guess in a manual M140i it would mean throttle response assuming there's a Drivetrain equivalent? However, in the 335d it's possible to select Sport with the Drivetrain ticked and the Chassis unticked which means you can have the sportier gearbox without the firmer suspension; if it works the same on an M140i that means you may well be able to have the sharp throttle response you want without having the firmer suspension but someone with greater knowledge than me may be able to confirm. With the 335d the car defaults to Comfort mode on start-up and I assume that will be the same with the M140i; I suspect that can be changed via a bit of re-coding but I've never investigated that further!

Enjoy the M140i when it arrives!


JonV8V

7,211 posts

124 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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The drivetrain will just be a throttle map on a manual and to be honest it won't be that useful. In standard mode no throttle is no throttle, full throttle is full throttle, half throttle is half throttle. With sport mode it's the same only half throttle is 3/4 throttle. In effect it just kids you into thinking it has more go and all it's doing is taking away the linear nature of the throttle. A thicker soled shoe has the same effect

jetbox

220 posts

161 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Hi,

I pick up one on the 1st, also with adaptive on the spec.

Looking forward to it. Enjoy when yours arrives!!!

Billy_Whizzzz

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143 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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JonV8V said:
The drivetrain will just be a throttle map on a manual and to be honest it won't be that useful. In standard mode no throttle is no throttle, full throttle is full throttle, half throttle is half throttle. With sport mode it's the same only half throttle is 3/4 throttle. In effect it just kids you into thinking it has more go and all it's doing is taking away the linear nature of the throttle. A thicker soled shoe has the same effect
Like the sport button on my Z4M then I guess. I was hoping in the 140 it would also firm up steering...

JonV8V

7,211 posts

124 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
JonV8V said:
The drivetrain will just be a throttle map on a manual and to be honest it won't be that useful. In standard mode no throttle is no throttle, full throttle is full throttle, half throttle is half throttle. With sport mode it's the same only half throttle is 3/4 throttle. In effect it just kids you into thinking it has more go and all it's doing is taking away the linear nature of the throttle. A thicker soled shoe has the same effect
Like the sport button on my Z4M then I guess. I was hoping in the 140 it would also firm up steering...
It might as part of chassis (as others have said on other BMWs and son probably yours you can select whether sport, comfort button can work on drivetrain and/or chassis) but you want that on comfort so it's probably the wrong way. You probably need a full fat M to have more control although this is all based on other cars.

JNW1

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194 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Like the sport button on my Z4M then I guess. I was hoping in the 140 it would also firm up steering...
The steering firms-up as part of the chassis option on the 335d so if the M140i's the same you won't be able to have firmer steering without firmer dampers. Having said that I think the extra weight in the steering on the 335d is quite artificial and something I could happily live without....

Swervin_Mervin

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238 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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You can set Sport to either Chassis, Drivetrain or both.

Chassis will give you both a firmer ride as well as quicker steering.

Drivetrain will just essentially make it feel like the throttle works on a hair trigger.

I much prefer driving with chassis in sport but not the drivetrain. Changes and throttle are already quick enough imo, but the quicker rack is the real bonus. I find it far to vague and nit direct enough on the standard setting. It's worth the trade off in very marginally harder ride for the steering.

JonV8V

7,211 posts

124 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Swervin_Mervin said:
You can set Sport to either Chassis, Drivetrain or both.

Chassis will give you both a firmer ride as well as quicker steering.

Drivetrain will just essentially make it feel like the throttle works on a hair trigger.

I much prefer driving with chassis in sport but not the drivetrain. Changes and throttle are already quick enough imo, but the quicker rack is the real bonus. I find it far to vague and nit direct enough on the standard setting. It's worth the trade off in very marginally harder ride for the steering.
Quicker rack? I thought they just made it heavier in sport.

Billy_Whizzzz

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143 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I've also just read than in theory - with adaptive dampers - when in sport (dampers) mode the system is clever enough to still adapt to bumps...? In which case I may as well leave it in sport - but of course all will be clear next week.

Swervin_Mervin

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238 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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JonV8V said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
You can set Sport to either Chassis, Drivetrain or both.

Chassis will give you both a firmer ride as well as quicker steering.

Drivetrain will just essentially make it feel like the throttle works on a hair trigger.

I much prefer driving with chassis in sport but not the drivetrain. Changes and throttle are already quick enough imo, but the quicker rack is the real bonus. I find it far to vague and nit direct enough on the standard setting. It's worth the trade off in very marginally harder ride for the steering.
Quicker rack? I thought they just made it heavier in sport.
If the Sport Steering is fitted (is it std on the M135/140i?) then it's a variable rate rack.