RE: Jaguar F-Pace: Review

RE: Jaguar F-Pace: Review

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Bradgate

2,819 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Those criticising the F-Pace may be interested to know that JLR are currently setting up additional production capacity at Magna-Steyr in Graz, Austria because all their own plants are running flat out.

If you want an F-Pace, either join the waiting list or pay a premium.

kambites

67,460 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Are they all made in Europe or is there production in America somewhere for the US market?

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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stuart-b said:
Are you going to be driving a plane or a car? Look at that centre console and all those buttons - no thanks!

Every button separated by a chrome strip - absolutely horrible. Spent a day driving a Panamera and hated the buttons. Porsche can do no wrong; their customer satisfaction survey results indicate people fking LOVE Porsches.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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je777 said:
And what is that aspiration? To impress other people.

Says a lot.

Often strangers.

Says more.

Impress them with your car.

Says even more.

That's not someone who is a fan of cars - that's someone with the ego control of a 7 year old.
You have problems.

Bradgate

2,819 posts

146 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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They are currently planning to build an assembly plant in China, and if they continue growing at their current rate, it's surely only a matter of time before they will need one in North America, too.

stuart-b

3,643 posts

225 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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It is their first model, so we can assume the LCI/facelift models and next gen models will bring big upgrades.

Lets not forget how Porsche looked when they launched their new models back in the day.


Pintofbest

804 posts

109 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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W124 said:
I've driven a few. They ain't that good. Especially with the 2.0d ingenium. Pretty awful really. The XF is very good to drive, and to be in. This thing is just bloated, heavy and nasty. To put the size in perspective - it's a struggle to get one in between the rails of a normal car wash. It's not idiotically big like a RR, Q7 or XC90, but it's not far off and there is no trade off in interior space. You can tell this article is pretty faint with the praise if you read between the lines - as PH was in general with the XE as well.

If you ask me (not that anybody has) - JLR are pushing way beyond the limit of their available box of bits and getting away with it because the cars look so good. you can't blame them - they have no other option really - but the truth is that, as a car, the F-Pace is nowhere near as good as the soon to be replaced Q5. Actually, I suspect Audi will cock up the Q5 replacement, but that's another story.
It would appear that most of the press and buyers don't agree - the 9 month waiting list might also give you a clue.

Chiefbadger

417 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Am I alone in thinking that they are ugly sin? The guy down the road has just got what I assume is a base model 2.0l (black with black wheels) and it just looks like a mess. The whole rear 3/4s just looks wrong.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Chiefbadger said:
Am I alone in thinking that they are ugly sin? The guy down the road has just got what I assume is a base model 2.0l (black with black wheels) and it just looks like a mess. The whole rear 3/4s just looks wrong.
Nope. As I said, it's like they've tried grafting the F-type's arse onto a big, tall, relatively narrow 4x4, and it just doesn't work, any more than grafting a squashed Discovery arse onto the F-type would work. The rest just looks utterly forgettable. Bring back the XF Sportbrake...

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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No V8 option?

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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I love it.

steve-5snwi

8,592 posts

92 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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If the q5 is better than the f pace then God help it, other than the sq5 which is OK a 2.0 tdi Q5 really is a little bit dull.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

127 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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skyrover said:
No V8 option?
No sign of one in this or the XE or new XF. Suspect they're looking to discontinue the engine altogether - although the V6 is the same block with the rear two cylinders blanked off...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

246 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Nice motor but at the 3 litre end of things it is chuffing expensive.

I couldn't walk away from a Cayenne at these prices.

2 litre makes more sense.

waremark

3,241 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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I like the looks and I like the fact that it has a little more usable space than a Macan in a similar size exterior. I expect I would be happy with the way it drives. I could be a customer for a high end one to replace an XF Sportbrake 3.0S Portfolio. However, I am very disappointed by the interior quality which is far below my XF let alone a high-end Macan - I would want an interior of at least equal quality to my current car, without having to pay more for it than the price of the current F Pace. I expect I may get it if I am patient when they have worked their way through the initial demand and have to improve it to maintain sales.

W124

1,495 posts

137 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Pintofbest said:
W124 said:
I've driven a few. They ain't that good. Especially with the 2.0d ingenium. Pretty awful really. The XF is very good to drive, and to be in. This thing is just bloated, heavy and nasty. To put the size in perspective - it's a struggle to get one in between the rails of a normal car wash. It's not idiotically big like a RR, Q7 or XC90, but it's not far off and there is no trade off in interior space. You can tell this article is pretty faint with the praise if you read between the lines - as PH was in general with the XE as well.

If you ask me (not that anybody has) - JLR are pushing way beyond the limit of their available box of bits and getting away with it because the cars look so good. you can't blame them - they have no other option really - but the truth is that, as a car, the F-Pace is nowhere near as good as the soon to be replaced Q5. Actually, I suspect Audi will cock up the Q5 replacement, but that's another story.
It would appear that most of the press and buyers don't agree - the 9 month waiting list might also give you a clue.
Yes I know. But they are wrong, in my opinion. Hence my post.


Triple7

4,013 posts

236 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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P-Jay said:
Saw these last weekend, the one on the left you can hardly see looked like an F-Pace to me, but the one in the foreground was similar, but smaller. Maybe one based on an XE?

RRS GT...

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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W124 said:
Pintofbest said:
W124 said:
I've driven a few. They ain't that good. Especially with the 2.0d ingenium. Pretty awful really. The XF is very good to drive, and to be in. This thing is just bloated, heavy and nasty. To put the size in perspective - it's a struggle to get one in between the rails of a normal car wash. It's not idiotically big like a RR, Q7 or XC90, but it's not far off and there is no trade off in interior space. You can tell this article is pretty faint with the praise if you read between the lines - as PH was in general with the XE as well.

If you ask me (not that anybody has) - JLR are pushing way beyond the limit of their available box of bits and getting away with it because the cars look so good. you can't blame them - they have no other option really - but the truth is that, as a car, the F-Pace is nowhere near as good as the soon to be replaced Q5. Actually, I suspect Audi will cock up the Q5 replacement, but that's another story.
It would appear that most of the press and buyers don't agree - the 9 month waiting list might also give you a clue.
Yes I know. But they are wrong, in my opinion. Hence my post.
The RR, Q7 or XC90 are still fairly compact against the full sized SUV's such as the Tahoe, Suburban and Expedition


kambites

67,460 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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skyrover said:
The RR, Q7 or XC90 are still fairly compact against the full sized SUV's such as the Tahoe, Suburban and Expedition
It might just be a factor of the roads I've driven them on, but the Range Rover feels a fair bit wider than the big American SUVs.

skyrover

12,668 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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kambites said:
skyrover said:
The RR, Q7 or XC90 are still fairly compact against the full sized SUV's such as the Tahoe, Suburban and Expedition
It might just be a factor of the roads I've driven them on, but the Range Rover feels a fair bit wider than the big American SUVs.
Excluding mirrors...

Range Rover

Width: 78.1 in (1984 mm)
Length: 196.8 in (4,999 mm) LWB: 204.7 in (5,199 mm)

Suburban

Width: 80.5 in (2,045 mm)
Length: 224.4 in (5,700 mm)