Why you shouldn't give cyclist a wide berth when passing

[julian64]

tigger1 said:

julian64 said:

you knit picking bunch of tosspots



5.6 miles time 15 mins suggested by the AA

Linky no worky.

And it's "nitpicking".

I'd also call BS on 8-10mph if I'm being really picky. There's a few on here who run that quickly for 5.6 miles, nevermind cycle.

The only way this whole story can be true (IMHO) is if you're known by these cyclists, and they've deliberately done it because of you. Otherwise so little of it makes sense.

Someone better than me will have to sort out the link as I just used their own upload system.

I think I'll keep it as knitpicking

And you are seeming to say I'm lying that the cyclists were doing 10mph because cyclists can go faster than that. Not even sure where to start with that so I'll just leave it.

Obviously the cyclist know me by the jaunty way I travel country lanes and were trying to teach me a lesson. I just think its a shame you didn't post that at the start of the thread to save us all wasting our time this afternoon.

PH nothing if not entertaining

[FGB]

[FiF]

julian64 said:

Someone better than me will have to sort out the link as I just used their own upload system.

I think I'll keep it as knitpicking

And you are seeming to say I'm lying that the cyclists were doing 10mph because cyclists can go faster than that. Not even sure where to start with that so I'll just leave it.

Obviously the cyclist know me by the jaunty way I travel country lanes and were trying to teach me a lesson. I just think its a shame you didn't post that at the start of the thread to save us all wasting our time this afternoon.

PH nothing if not entertaining

Tbh I think you're probably better putting it as "nits who are nitpicking", if you get my drift.

Unfortunately it's the way of PH these days, the let's flame the OP and call him a liar / incompetent / AN Other insult in order to appear superior is what's ruining much of the forum.

Taking what you wrote in good faith, then if a 15 minute section takes an extra 15 minutes, then that feels like a long time. Compare that to the frequent complaints from the outside lane warriors of elephant racing holding them up for a couple of miles, so they have to do 56 instead of 70 and adds 27 seconds to their journey.

[saaby93]

FiF said:

Unfortunately it's the way of PH these days, the let's flame the OP and call him a liar / incompetent / AN Other insult in order to appear superior is what's ruining much of the forum.

we could do a check of the proportion of posts that did that

[g7jhp]

walm said:

I am sure they exist.
I just have my doubts that Julian was stuck behind lycra-clad bellends doing 10mph for 50 minutes on one.

For a start if you are lycra-clad, 10mph is embarrassingly slow.

Depends, not if you're running.

[PorkRind]

J4CKO said:

Weird thread !

Trying to justify 50 minutes sat transfixed by some Lycra covered buttocks...

OP= pervert?

[Mr2Mike]

Rick101 said:

I think you are somewhat naive.

There may be Dashcam wkers, but some don't even need a Dashcam.

How does this make me naive, you'll have to explain this? Asking the OP if he had a GPS record of the event is weird, it's like you expect this to be a normal thing for people to do.

[Rick101]

Normal people have mobile phones.
Mobile phones have GPS.
Most people will have a fairly accurate record of their movements digitally stored whether they realise it or not.

Google maps timeline is one example.

[GetCarter]

Rick101 said:

Normal people have mobile phones.

Off topic. I know lots of people without mobile phones. They seem pretty normal to me.

(Well some of them, anyway).

[julian64]

its been two hours since I posted the roads and yet no one has posted back to show a likely overtake place, or called me a liar.

Do I win a prize?

To the person not satisfied with knowing where I live and the road I drive down but now wants to interrogate my phone, I'm afraid I will have to decline. I feel I just don't want to make the point of this argument strongly enough to show the whole world my phone, even if it did store all my journeys on it (which I think is a bit sinister).

Night all

[je777]

SilverSixer said:

julian64 said:

you knit picking bunch of tosspots

Nit picking.

Nit-picking.

[je777]

Fact is, despite your backtracking, smiley faces, etc. the reason people had a go at you, primarily, was the last sentence of your first post.

[tigger1]

julian64 said:

After that little meeting I'm now of the opinion that cyclists should not have equal access to the road as cars.

Technically cyclists don't have equal access - they have similar access, cyclists can go some places motorists can't, and vice-versa.

So I guess even without your (troll?) post you already had what you wanted.

I still don't believe the delay was anything like you have claimed, re-stated and then re-claimed. I really don't think that even the most dim-witted of ignorant cyclists (there are some) would hold somebody up for that long when there's opportunity not to - purely because there's (seemingly) too many people want to run over cyclists already.

[FGB]

je777 said:

SilverSixer said:

julian64 said:

you knit picking bunch of tosspots

Nit picking.

Nit-picking.

Nitpicking actually (as mentioned previously)

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engli...


Definition of nitpicking in English:

nitpicking
Pronunciation: /?n?tp?k??/
NOUN

[MASS NOUN] informal
Fussy or pedantic fault-finding:
nitpicking over tiny details
[AS MODIFIER]: a nitpicking legalistic exercise
More example sentences
Derivatives

nitpick
Pronunciation: /?n?tp?k/
VERB
Example sentences
nitpicker
Pronunciation: /?n?tp?k?/
NOUN
Example sentences
Those knobbers on Pistonheads are nitpicky as fk.
nitpicky
ADJECTIVE

Edited by FGB on Thursday 25th August 08:35

[FiF]

tigger1 said:

julian64 said:

After that little meeting I'm now of the opinion that cyclists should not have equal access to the road as cars.

Technically cyclists don't have equal access - they have similar access, cyclists can go some places motorists can't, and vice-versa.

So I guess even without your (troll?) post you already had what you wanted.

I still don't believe the delay was anything like you have claimed, re-stated and then re-claimed. I really don't think that even the most dim-witted of ignorant cyclists (there are some) would hold somebody up for that long when there's opportunity not to - purely because there's (seemingly) too many people want to run over cyclists already.

saaby93 said:

FiF said:

Unfortunately it's the way of PH these days, the let's flame the OP and call him a liar / incompetent / AN Other insult in order to appear superior is what's ruining much of the forum.

we could do a check of the proportion of posts that did that

No intention of doing a survey, but there's another one effectively calling him a liar.

There's plenty of evidence, including from posts on PH that some cyclists deliberately try to ps off drivers. There's one thing taking command position and quite another being deliberately obstructive. Some vehicles drivers have been prosecuted for causing delays and not pulling over, why not cyclists in extreme cases?

[tigger1]

FiF said:

No intention of doing a survey, but there's another one effectively calling him a liar.

There's plenty of evidence, including from posts on PH that some cyclists deliberately try to ps off drivers. There's one thing taking command position and quite another being deliberately obstructive. Some vehicles drivers have been prosecuted for causing delays and not pulling over, why not cyclists in extreme cases?

I'd already called him a liar previously - I'm definitely not "another one" - please don't double-count me .

Given the OP turned out to be BS, I think it's fairer to say that our survey has dug up such a number of BS OP's that this is causing a high volume of "the OP's pants are on fire" type posts.

[walm]

FiF said:

No intention of doing a survey, but there's another one effectively calling him a liar.

There's plenty of evidence, including from posts on PH that some cyclists deliberately try to ps off drivers. There's one thing taking command position and quite another being deliberately obstructive. Some vehicles drivers have been prosecuted for causing delays and not pulling over, why not cyclists in extreme cases?

Because it never happens.
Or at least, "extreme" cases start out at 50 minutes and rapidly turn into 15 minutes.
Still bad but hardly worth calling the Old Bill about it.

Perhaps more importantly but completely ignored as usual is...
There's plenty of evidence, including from posts on PH that some drivers deliberately try to ps off cyclists.

And by "ps off" I mean "physically endanger".

But that's fine.
Let's worry about that one time someone was stuck behind some morons.
We should probably change the rules of the road for the whole nation off the back of that.

[FiF]

tigger1 said:

FiF said:

No intention of doing a survey, but there's another one effectively calling him a liar.

There's plenty of evidence, including from posts on PH that some cyclists deliberately try to ps off drivers. There's one thing taking command position and quite another being deliberately obstructive. Some vehicles drivers have been prosecuted for causing delays and not pulling over, why not cyclists in extreme cases?

I'd already called him a liar previously - I'm definitely not "another one" - please don't double-count me .

Given the OP turned out to be BS, I think it's fairer to say that our survey has dug up such a number of BS OP's that this is causing a high volume of "the OP's pants are on fire" type posts.

Oh my mistake for not recognising a repetition of the insult. I tend to filter out posts from certain types.

[Antony Moxey]

FiF said:

There's plenty of evidence, including from posts on PH that some cyclists deliberately try to ps off drivers. There's one thing taking command position and quite another being deliberately obstructive. Some vehicles drivers have been prosecuted for causing delays and not pulling over, why not cyclists in extreme cases?

I'm not sure there is plenty of 'evidence', however there are plenty of anecdotes from drivers about cyclists' alleged motives. Funny though, because there are equally plenty of anecdotes from cyclists about drivers deliberately trying to force bikes off the road, passing too close, aggressive overtakes etc. I guess all the drivers must be correct and all the cyclists liars.

As for 'extreme cases', which ones would they be? Again, all we have are anecdotes like the OP's, I wonder if these 'extreme cases' are cases at all, or perhaps the driver just got held up a little longer than he expected and when he did finally pass his ire was raised further by finding himself then at the back of another queue. But it's all the cyclists' fault eh?

[je777]

FGB said:

je777 said:

SilverSixer said:

julian64 said:

you knit picking bunch of tosspots

Nit picking.

Nit-picking.

Nitpicking actually (as mentioned previously)

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engli...


Definition of nitpicking in English:

nitpicking
Pronunciation: /?n?tp?k??/
NOUN

[MASS NOUN] informal
Fussy or pedantic fault-finding:
nitpicking over tiny details
[AS MODIFIER]: a nitpicking legalistic exercise
More example sentences
Derivatives

nitpick
Pronunciation: /?n?tp?k/
VERB
Example sentences
nitpicker
Pronunciation: /?n?tp?k?/
NOUN
Example sentences
Those knobbers on Pistonheads are nitpicky as fk.
nitpicky
ADJECTIVE

Edited by FGB on Thursday 25th August 08:35

Well, both are accepted by most dictionaries.
I'd always go for hyphenation - as in 'fault-finding'.