Why you shouldn't give cyclist a wide berth when passing
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I think one thing a lot of people who haven't done much cycling don't realise is just how bad the state of the side of the roads are in most places (especially country lanes). I get quite a bit of grief if I'm slightly out in the road (mainly from middle age+ blokes or younger chav types, ph main demographic? 
) but its normally just to get round huge craters.
) but its normally just to get round huge craters.Antony Moxey said:
On my bike I can guarantee I've not held anyone up for more than a couple of hundred yards at best, and can also guarantee that when driving cyclists haven't held me up for more than a couple of hundred yards at best.
The OP was talking about someone that wasn't like that.Why do posters try to win an argument by talking about something different
saaby93 said:
The OP was talking about someone that wasn't like that.
Why do posters try to win an argument by talking about something different
Because the OP started out saying he'd been held up for 8 miles, it kind of went deeper into his own fantasy from there.Why do posters try to win an argument by talking about something different
Why do posters not think before posting outrage. It would free quite a lot of the Internet up.
saaby93 said:
Antony Moxey said:
On my bike I can guarantee I've not held anyone up for more than a couple of hundred yards at best, and can also guarantee that when driving cyclists haven't held me up for more than a couple of hundred yards at best.
The OP was talking about someone that wasn't like that.Why do posters try to win an argument by talking about something different
NerveAgent said:
I think one thing a lot of people who haven't done much cycling don't realise is just how bad the state of the side of the roads are in most places (especially country lanes). I get quite a bit of grief if I'm slightly out in the road (mainly from middle age+ blokes or younger chav types, ph main demographic? ) but its normally just to get round huge craters.
That may explain this guy I came across a few days ago choosing to ride towards oncoming traffic on a DC. The road was open and in use on the other side, but there were some nasty cones out ) but its normally just to get round huge craters.
Antony Moxey said:
saaby93 said:
Antony Moxey said:
On my bike I can guarantee I've not held anyone up for more than a couple of hundred yards at best, and can also guarantee that when driving cyclists haven't held me up for more than a couple of hundred yards at best.
The OP was talking about someone that wasn't like that.Why do posters try to win an argument by talking about something different
BGarside said:
Experienced cyclists probably do, but sometimes it gets a bit tiring going miles out of your way to avoid direct routes when you just want to get somewhere. In general I spent most of my Tim being forced to cycle on rough, crud-strewn, potholed country lanes in order to avoid idiots in cars using all the decent roads, often going miles out of my way in the process.
Better for your endurance training, surely!This riding two abreast thing seems to be a roadie thing.
It very rarely happens where I live (in London) except in Regents Park. I cycle through several times a week and when I'm on my bike it doesn't cause too much grief. But if I drive through on a weekend they are often two or even three abreast for long periods holding up loads of cars.
I've no idea why they do this but it is inconsiderate and I can see why (non-cyclist) drivers get the hump.
It very rarely happens where I live (in London) except in Regents Park. I cycle through several times a week and when I'm on my bike it doesn't cause too much grief. But if I drive through on a weekend they are often two or even three abreast for long periods holding up loads of cars.
I've no idea why they do this but it is inconsiderate and I can see why (non-cyclist) drivers get the hump.
AC43 said:
This riding two abreast thing seems to be a roadie thing.
It very rarely happens where I live (in London) except in Regents Park. I cycle through several times a week and when I'm on my bike it doesn't cause too much grief. But if I drive through on a weekend they are often two or even three abreast for long periods holding up loads of cars.
I've no idea why they do this but it is inconsiderate and I can see why (non-cyclist) drivers get the hump.
1. because it's legal to do soIt very rarely happens where I live (in London) except in Regents Park. I cycle through several times a week and when I'm on my bike it doesn't cause too much grief. But if I drive through on a weekend they are often two or even three abreast for long periods holding up loads of cars.
I've no idea why they do this but it is inconsiderate and I can see why (non-cyclist) drivers get the hump.
2. becauae it's part of controlling your roadspace which is standard advanced riding / driving techniques whether pedal or mechnicially proppelled...
DoubleD said:
These arguments just go round and round. If everyone considered everyone elses needs, then the roads would flow better and everyone would be happier.
Yes, but that also means understanding other people's needs. Characterising riding 2 abreast as simply inconsiderate without acknowledging that in a lot of cases it's safer is disingenuous.DoubleD said:
Ive riden on roads a lot in single file and side by side, i dont think that either is safer or more dangerous. But thats my opinion.
And, as you were involved in a long discussion about the safety pros and cons of riding side by side, do you really think people are doing it to be inconsiderate?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff