Tesla P100D 0-60 in 2.5s
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Impressive bit of kit no doubt about it and that acceleration is mental. I get the impression with all of the Tesla models that they are built to a high standard overall not just the whole electric side of things.
Obviously for us lot, that 0-60 time is highly impressive and I guess it's the future of motoring. I assume using all that power/torque would result in less than 300 miles to a charge but then if you know you're only doing X number of miles commute and no where near even half that, it could be good fun.
I've love to see EVs capable of doing 500 miles to a charge so you always know you've got a decent bit of range left. For example my daughter lives 120 miles away, so I like to know I've got 260 miles available in my car for a return trip should I need it. I can do that on half a tank of diesel in my E class so I'd love to see EVs at that point.
Out of interest the Model 3, what's the performance like on that?
Obviously for us lot, that 0-60 time is highly impressive and I guess it's the future of motoring. I assume using all that power/torque would result in less than 300 miles to a charge but then if you know you're only doing X number of miles commute and no where near even half that, it could be good fun.
I've love to see EVs capable of doing 500 miles to a charge so you always know you've got a decent bit of range left. For example my daughter lives 120 miles away, so I like to know I've got 260 miles available in my car for a return trip should I need it. I can do that on half a tank of diesel in my E class so I'd love to see EVs at that point.
Out of interest the Model 3, what's the performance like on that?
Alex_225 said:
Out of interest the Model 3, what's the performance like on that?
I'm not sure if there's official figures but the expectation seems to be a rather more modest 0-60 in 6 seconds and an EPA range of 215 miles for the bottom end model. I don't doubt there will be more powerful motors and larger capacity battery packs along fairly soon after launch but I'm not aware of any figures for them at all yet. Alex_225 said:
Out of interest the Model 3, what's the performance like on that?
'Under 6 seconds to 60' - theres probably going to be a range of performance but thats the minimum. Interestingly from the data the model S could go even faster - the limit is still the battery being able to supply enough current for the motors..
RobDickinson said:
'Under 6 seconds to 60' - theres probably going to be a range of performance but thats the minimum.
Interestingly from the data the model S could go even faster - the limit is still the battery being able to supply enough current for the motors..
I've never understood why they don't provide a super-capacitor buffer in the higher end models. Sort of like the time-limited over-boost features on some modern turbos. Interestingly from the data the model S could go even faster - the limit is still the battery being able to supply enough current for the motors..
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the point I think people are trying to make with the 0-60 times is that tesla is almost the only EV out there worth considering. With petrol engined cars theres millions of them to choose from. Don't want a fast car? buy a slower more economical one then for cheaper. EVs need to become more affordable and improving a top trump statistic like 0-60 by .3 or whatever of a second isn't doing that.rampageturke said:
EVs need to become more affordable and improving a top trump statistic like 0-60 isn't doing that.
No, but the Model-3 is. We're not realistically going to see £15k EVs for another generation (at least not without having a running battery hire cost) but the Model-3 should push it into the "affordable for a significant proportion of people" category; especially for company car "buyers". Improving performance is a marketing gimmick, just as it is with with ICE powered cars. But it's an important marketing gimmick.
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Get with the times guys.
Quicker than most cars on the road, range of 300 miles (more than many supercars), silent and economical. Range will only get better..
Electric cars are here to stay and elon musk has brought the change about. He will go down in history as moving the game on.
Yes, we all like petrol v8s but theyre going the way of the horse and cart.
These cars are the future.
Im amazed at how many negative comments there are here. Tesla is a fantastic company and in leads me to ask the question of what bmw and mercedes have been doing. Will bmw and mercedes go the same way as nokia did?
Quicker than most cars on the road, range of 300 miles (more than many supercars), silent and economical. Range will only get better..
Electric cars are here to stay and elon musk has brought the change about. He will go down in history as moving the game on.
Yes, we all like petrol v8s but theyre going the way of the horse and cart.
These cars are the future.
Im amazed at how many negative comments there are here. Tesla is a fantastic company and in leads me to ask the question of what bmw and mercedes have been doing. Will bmw and mercedes go the same way as nokia did?
rampageturke said:
EVs need to become more affordable and improving a top trump statistic like 0-60 by .3 or whatever of a second isn't doing that.
No, EVs need to become more desirable.We already have several EVs on market that are no more expensive than many of the leased BMW/AUDI that you see everywhere. You wouldn't compare them directly, but the cost isn't the issue. If it was, people would buy a fully loaded Kia over a base spec Beemer.
The issue is that they don't have the desirability of a premium German badge. And by battling the "EV are slow" image they are going someway to improve on that.
jonah35 said:
Im amazed at how many negative comments there are here. Tesla is a fantastic company and in leads me to ask the question of what bmw and mercedes have been doing. Will bmw and mercedes go the same way as nokia did?
Well BMW already have a pure EV and VAG have a range of them. I'd be amazed if Mercedes don't have a pure EV drive-train out in the next couple of years. jonah35 said:
Get with the times guys.
Quicker than most cars on the road, range of 300 miles (more than many supercars), silent and economical. Range will only get better..
Electric cars are here to stay and elon musk has brought the change about. He will go down in history as moving the game on.
Yes, we all like petrol v8s but theyre going the way of the horse and cart.
These cars are the future.
Im amazed at how many negative comments there are here. Tesla is a fantastic company and in leads me to ask the question of what bmw and mercedes have been doing. Will bmw and mercedes go the same way as nokia did?
Both Mercedes and BMW have both dabbled in EVs which is most likely leading to further development, Merc have already been thinking about haulage https://www.daimler.com/products/trucks/mercedes-b...Quicker than most cars on the road, range of 300 miles (more than many supercars), silent and economical. Range will only get better..
Electric cars are here to stay and elon musk has brought the change about. He will go down in history as moving the game on.
Yes, we all like petrol v8s but theyre going the way of the horse and cart.
These cars are the future.
Im amazed at how many negative comments there are here. Tesla is a fantastic company and in leads me to ask the question of what bmw and mercedes have been doing. Will bmw and mercedes go the same way as nokia did?
Take the long drive / roadside recharging limitations out of the equation and I can't see why you wouldn't want one as a luxobarge. The ultimate waft factor, inherently superior NVH levels that no IC powertrain can even begin to compete with, and with bags of effortless performance on tap, instantly, with just a flex of the toe. Surely this is what car manufacturers have been trying to do with IC powered luxury saloons for years.
No, it's not a track car, or something you'd attack a mountain pass in, but sitting neatly between a 5 and 7 series in external dimensions, the same could be said of any other comparable car.
As something to stick 1000 miles a week on, schlepping all over the country for work, I can't think of much else I'd rather be in, to be honest. Something fun and IC powered for weekends, and this for the day job would be perfect.
No, it's not a track car, or something you'd attack a mountain pass in, but sitting neatly between a 5 and 7 series in external dimensions, the same could be said of any other comparable car.
As something to stick 1000 miles a week on, schlepping all over the country for work, I can't think of much else I'd rather be in, to be honest. Something fun and IC powered for weekends, and this for the day job would be perfect.
RobDickinson said:
"The Model S P100D with Ludicrous mode is the third fastest accelerating production car ever produced, with a 0-60 mph time of 2.5* seconds"
How quick can these get?
Oh 315 mile range also...
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/blog/new-tesla-model-s...
Awesome! Especially the claimed range. Once this technology becomes more mainstream and cheaper, it'll be bye bye fossil fuels. It's probably why there's a power race going on at the moment with petrol engines. The last hurrah before we switch to electric motors.How quick can these get?
Oh 315 mile range also...
https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/blog/new-tesla-model-s...
rampageturke said:
EVs need to become more affordable and improving a top trump statistic like 0-60 by .3 or whatever of a second isn't doing that.
I think you missed the part where Musk thanked people considering a $135k Tesla as it gives him funds to invest in developing the more affordable models.Blaster72 said:
ex1 said:
A monthly lease isn't the way to go.
We paid £8.5k for a 2013 leaf with no monthly payments and it does 70 miles even in winter. My partner does 300 miles a week and gets free tank of fuel at every service station in the uk. From here on in I can't see it depreciating much different to the golf tdi we had before it. It's already saved us around £1500 over the tdi and is worth around £750 less than we paid for it. I can't see a cheaper way to run a car. Helps to live in the right part of country where there is good infrastructure but that will come along with much better range. No doubt the next Leaf will have 200+ mile range and the rest will soon follow.
Free tank of fuel at every service station in the uk? How does that work with a Nissan Leaf?We paid £8.5k for a 2013 leaf with no monthly payments and it does 70 miles even in winter. My partner does 300 miles a week and gets free tank of fuel at every service station in the uk. From here on in I can't see it depreciating much different to the golf tdi we had before it. It's already saved us around £1500 over the tdi and is worth around £750 less than we paid for it. I can't see a cheaper way to run a car. Helps to live in the right part of country where there is good infrastructure but that will come along with much better range. No doubt the next Leaf will have 200+ mile range and the rest will soon follow.
Anyway, back to the Tesla. When are the first Model 3 cars due?
Nanook said:
The same applies here. They make a fast one. You don't have to buy it. They'll sell you a cheaper slow one too.
Except the cheaper 60/60D have a quoted range of about 100 miles less than the 90D which is around £85k IIRC. It's not more "economical" (range wise) to buy the cheaper one which is usually the reverse for ICE cars. And the 60D is around £50k I thinkGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff