RE: Ford Mustang outsells Audi TT!

[T16OLE]

Not read the whole thread, but surely the 250bjp and over bracket of the TT is limited to the TTS.

[MarshPhantom]

rampageturke said:

Only seen one so far and it was bonnet open on the side of the motorway

I've seen about 10.

[tali1]

The Ford GT - mega expensive - but sold out
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/05/ford-gt-s...

[anonymous-user]

LuS1fer said:

AndySheff said:

Have you sat in them and felt the plastic ? And how wide are they ??!!

I recall Performance car saying the old GT felt like an Elise to drive. The old car had the daft doors though so you needed space to get out.

As for width, not sure but I refuse to have an Enzo for that reason

I sold my F40 because of its shocking cabin finish, how they sold any I just don't know

[lee_erm]

MarshPhantom said:

I've seen about 10.

On the side of the motorway?

[skyrover]

crostonian said:

I've just sold mine, a V8 GT Manual, not sure why but I have and I made a few quid too. It didn't quite blow me away like I thought it would, the engine sound is muted, the pitch and dive is noticeable and it's a big car that doesn't have that magic trick of shrinking around you. It is screaming out to be modified which is all well and dandy unless your car is on finance and then you have the insurance implications.

It's built to be tinkered with.

They throw a car out there set up for the mass market and than the huge aftermarket caters to the enthusiast.

How about an exhaust for your mustang?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAPy3LBCPfw

[Merc 450]

greghm said:

I can see everyone is shocked by the "rational car choice" ... I agree, why would it not be rational ?

Personally I don't think a diesel car should be considered as sporty at all. Who buys a V8 and thinks about Mpg ? ??

I have a 300+ hp diesel Audi A6 estate with 7 speed flappy paddles 0_60 in 5 seconds and 163mph top end, I would love the v8 mustang for the sound and the looks but on paper it's nowhere near as quick as the Audi. I wonder if the Mrs would let me keep the Audi for the Rottweiler and get a mustang for fun (doubt it)

[skyrover]

Merc 450 said:

I have a 300+ hp diesel Audi A6 estate with 7 speed flappy paddles 0_60 in 5 seconds and 163mph top end, I would love the v8 mustang for the sound and the looks but on paper it's nowhere near as quick as the Audi. I wonder if the Mrs would let me keep the Audi for the Rottweiler and get a mustang for fun (doubt it)

Mustang 0-60 and 1/4 mile times

EcoBoost Premium Fastback RWD 6M 5.6 sec 14.0 sec @ 102 mph Car and Driver
EcoBoost Premium Fastback RWD 6M 6.3 sec 14.5 sec @ 98 mph Motor Trend
GT Premium Fastback RWD 6M 4.3 sec 12.9 sec @ 112 mph Car and Driver
GT Premium Fastback RWD 6M 4.6 sec 12.9 sec @ 110 mph Motor Trend
GT Premium Fastback RWD 6M 4.7 sec 13.2 sec @ 109.8 mph Road & Track
Shelby GT350 Fastback RWD 6M 4.3 sec 12.5 sec @ 117 mph Car and Driver
Shelby GT350 Fastback RWD 6M 4.3 sec 12.5 sec @ 119 mph Car and Driver
Shelby GT350 Fastback RWD 6M 4.1 sec 12.4 sec @ 117.8 mph Motor Trend
Shelby GT350R Fastback RWD 6M 3.9 sec 12.2 sec @ 119 mph Car and Driver
Shelby GT350R Fastback RWD 6M 3.9 sec 12.1 sec @ 119.6 mph Motor Trend
Shelby GT350R Fastback RWD 6M 4.0 sec 12.3 sec @ 119 mph Motor Week
Shelby GT350R Fastback RWD 6M 4.0 sec 12.3 sec @ 117.9 mph Road & Track

It's quite a lot faster than your Audi

Edited by skyrover on Friday 26th August 22:53

[croyde]

The police who stopped me for being naughty in mine firstly had no idea what it was and asked me,

How much? 120k? 150k?

I replied, probably not much more than your kitted out Focus lol

[Dave Hedgehog]

skyrover said:

It's built to be tinkered with.

They throw a car out there set up for the mass market and than the huge aftermarket caters to the enthusiast.

How about an exhaust for your mustang?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAPy3LBCPfw

Ok now I want a mustang,


But i wonder if I can ask BMW to make the engine speaker noise more beefy in the M3?

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Saturday 27th August 05:58

[Dave Hedgehog]

yonex said:

I sold my F40 because of its shocking cabin finish, how they sold any I just don't know

I got rid of mine years ago because all the jurnos kept telling me turbo cars where utter crap

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Saturday 27th August 07:26

[chrispj]

Devil2575 said:

No one has said to your face "it's only a Ford", but people do think like that. I work with a lot of young graduates and I've heard those exact words.

Edited by Devil2575 on Friday 26th August 18:39

People are stupid, even graduates these days. Ignore them, who cares what they think if they are so superficial.

[Dave Hedgehog]

chrispj said:

Devil2575 said:

No one has said to your face "it's only a Ford", but people do think like that. I work with a lot of young graduates and I've heard those exact words.

Edited by Devil2575 on Friday 26th August 18:39

People are stupid, even graduates these days. Ignore them, who cares what they think if they are so superficial.

They are doubly stupid if they let other people's opinions affect their car choices

Get what YOU enjoy and fk what other people think or what jurno's tell you.

[Devil2575]

Dave Hedgehog said:

chrispj said:

Devil2575 said:

No one has said to your face "it's only a Ford", but people do think like that. I work with a lot of young graduates and I've heard those exact words.

Edited by Devil2575 on Friday 26th August 18:39

People are stupid, even graduates these days. Ignore them, who cares what they think if they are so superficial.

They are doubly stupid if they let other people's opinions affect their car choices

Get what YOU enjoy and fk what other people think

I agree, but it is a fact of life. We are social animals and almost all of us will at sometime let what other people think influence our buying decisions, even if we don't realise it.

I remember about 25 years ago a lad I knew wanted a Mk2 Escort as his first car but his mother told him that he wasn't parking a Ford on her drive.

[EazyDuz]

Worth the price tag for the looks alone imo.

[foliedouce]

Devil2575 said:

Stop being a clown.

Have you been to school or even learnt any life skills at all? How about being able to understand and explain someone else's point of view without agreeing with it.

No one has said to your face "it's only a Ford", but people do think like that. I work with a lot of young graduates and I've heard those exact words. In fact it was used about a Brand new Focus RS a few years back, also described as a Chav car, by lads who went out and bought Audis with their new found wealth. I know another guy who was after a 4x4 sort of thing and scoffed when people suggested a Kuga, he wouldn't be seen dead in a Ford. He bought a used Merc ML in the end. To suggest that no on thinks like this and it's just me is frankly laughable. The irony of you saying to me that you can't take me seriously.

Why do you think Honda never sold Many Honda NSXs? Was it because it was no good, outclassed by the 911 or was it because it had the wrong badge?

Oh and for the record this is what you can get by way of a BMW:

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...


Or this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

This is the cheapest new V8 Mustang on Autotrader

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

Yes you get more power with the Ford, but then people are prepared to pay more for the Badge with a BMW, and perhaps a little bit more polished handling and some nicer soft touch plastics etc.

And for the 3rd time, no I don't think like that and I'd buy a Ford over a VAG product any day of the week for example. But I guess this will fall on deaf ears because you don't seem to be able to understand the concept of knowing someone else's opinion and being able to explain it without agreeing with it. Do yourself a favour, never get a job that requires you to negotiate because you'd be st at it.

Edited by Devil2575 on Friday 26th August 18:39

I agree with what you're saying, however I do think the Mustang is different from a perception perspective because of its iconic global status and also it doesn't have Ford badges.

Personally I can't see myself ever buying a new German car, I just find them too dull and mainstream. I would buy an older / classic German motor though.

A Mustang in the USA is mainstream, but it certainly is not that yet in the UK.

I'm pleased Ford took the risk and it seems to be paying off, can we have a Dodge Challenger in RHD format please?

[Devil2575]

foliedouce said:

I agree with what you're saying, however I do think the Mustang is different from a perception perspective because of its iconic global status and also it doesn't have Ford badges.

Personally I can't see myself ever buying a new German car, I just find them too dull and mainstream. I would buy an older / classic German motor though.

A Mustang in the USA is mainstream, but it certainly is not that yet in the UK.

I'm pleased Ford took the risk and it seems to be paying off, can we have a Dodge Challenger in RHD format please?

The Mustang is different and like the GT is a car that could possibly break away from the normal Ford brand image.

The silly thing is how long it took Ford to bring the Mustang to Europe.

I wouldn't buy any new car, they're just not good value for money IMHO.

[s m]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

Mine with a colleagues:





500BHP is easy and only costs about £2-3k.e

Fords biggest problem is aftercare... there are some proper shockers out there when it comes to parts availability and dealer support.

Looks great Kapital

I agree about some of the dealers - for me the local Mini dealer has been the best - maybe Ford should do something similar to the BMW/Mini split or like Ford did with RS brand years back - a few specialist dealers countrywide but you can also go in all mainstream Ford places

[NJH]

Aftercare has been mentioned what about actually buying the thing. I had a bit of an obsession with these several months back, try going into your local Ford dealer and buying one? First off I was told that NONE of my local dealers will have them (but they will service it, great so you get a guy that has never seen a stang before working on your car), then I was told to contact a branch part of the same dealer group that might have one, might be a convertible can't say what spec but heard they were getting one next week, maybe.

I gave up.

FFS Ford sort your act out. Its nothing short of a miracle the number of these that have sold. Really they need to have a small network of specialist dealers to carry this car (or the Focus RS for that matter) that are focused on this sort of product, actually know something about the product, can actually give you a test drive in one something like the one you might buy, will look after you and the car in a manner befitting of something costing the thick end of £40k.

[em177]

NJH said:

Aftercare has been mentioned what about actually buying the thing. I had a bit of an obsession with these several months back, try going into your local Ford dealer and buying one? First off I was told that NONE of my local dealers will have them (but they will service it, great so you get a guy that has never seen a stang before working on your car), then I was told to contact a branch part of the same dealer group that might have one, might be a convertible can't say what spec but heard they were getting one next week, maybe.

I gave up.

FFS Ford sort your act out. Its nothing short of a miracle the number of these that have sold. Really they need to have a small network of specialist dealers to carry this car (or the Focus RS for that matter) that are focused on this sort of product, actually know something about the product, can actually give you a test drive in one something like the one you might buy, will look after you and the car in a manner befitting of something costing the thick end of £40k.

To be fair, rightly or wrongly most franchises won't really give a st about going the extra mile to help a Mustang customer when they can churn out a million Fiestas a month.