RE: Ford Mustang outsells Audi TT!
Discussion
kambites said:
jamieduff1981 said:
I honestly can't think of anything the TT does better as a sporty type of car, other than "be German" which admittedly seems to be the primary criteria for many British car buyers suffering from a maturity complex.
I can - width. I haven't driven a current generation Mustang but I've driven "sporty" cars of similar size and for me it's a serious limitation to the lines you can choose on twisty, narrow roads. jamieduff1981 said:
It's the same width of my XF which I drive on narrow roads every single day.
Your XF is not, and makes no pretence to be, a sports car. It's perfectly viable to drive a large car well within its limits on a narrow road but start to take any sort of liberties and you need appropriate margins to play with. I'm certainly not defending the TT as a drivers' car, but saying it has no positive attributes in that regard compared to a Mustang is daft, IMO.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 24th August 14:06
jamieduff1981 said:
Matt Bird said:
kambites said:
AndySheff said:
Why isn't it a rational sports car choice ?
I don't think I'd call it a sports car choice at all - it's a muscle car not a sports car. And yes, agree on the muscle car categorisation, but that would give Ford less scope for showing off!
Matt
what a misleading headline, did the journalist train with the daily mail?
Headline (ie clickbait) is "Ford Mustang outsells Audi TT!" where article is all about cars over 250bhp which immediately excludes the vast majority of TT sales and the vast majority of the market the TT is aimed at.
Whats next, a headline with "Ferrari outsells Hyundai" when the article is about ferrari selling more yellow t-shirts compared to hyundai
Headline (ie clickbait) is "Ford Mustang outsells Audi TT!" where article is all about cars over 250bhp which immediately excludes the vast majority of TT sales and the vast majority of the market the TT is aimed at.
Whats next, a headline with "Ferrari outsells Hyundai" when the article is about ferrari selling more yellow t-shirts compared to hyundai
We had a look at one of this as a direct comparison the the Audi TTS (direct in regard performance and price) not engine size..
Must say it has so much going for it
-Nice sounding V8
-Priced very keenly
-Has nearly every option standard and by the time you tick box the TTS to similar spec its £42K ouch.
-Stick shift - thumbs up.
-Normal handbrake!! not some crappy electric thing.
Drove great, of course a big ish car, but with PDC and a camera no excuse for parking it badly.
And in the spec and colour we wanted £36495....with only one sting in the tail...one we couldnt live with...
'A 1 Year wait' and a £2k deposit up front for the full year, non refundable...
So we bought a Porsche, shame as we really liked the Mustang as well, but couldn't wait a year, and many used ones are way more than list price.
However that said, its def much better than the TTS in nearly all ways with the exception of plastics in the cabin, but thats it, so not surprised its outselling the TT.
So well done Ford.
Andy
Must say it has so much going for it
-Nice sounding V8
-Priced very keenly
-Has nearly every option standard and by the time you tick box the TTS to similar spec its £42K ouch.
-Stick shift - thumbs up.
-Normal handbrake!! not some crappy electric thing.
Drove great, of course a big ish car, but with PDC and a camera no excuse for parking it badly.
And in the spec and colour we wanted £36495....with only one sting in the tail...one we couldnt live with...
'A 1 Year wait' and a £2k deposit up front for the full year, non refundable...
So we bought a Porsche, shame as we really liked the Mustang as well, but couldn't wait a year, and many used ones are way more than list price.
However that said, its def much better than the TTS in nearly all ways with the exception of plastics in the cabin, but thats it, so not surprised its outselling the TT.
So well done Ford.
Andy
They're not bad, but just too bulky to hustle down narrow British roads. Plenty of grunt and a nice V8 noise, so a relaxed grand tourer. If you try to throw it around like a GTI you will not enjoy it. The fuel costs are going to hurt.
Quality will most probably disappoint. After about 3 years it's quite likely to be going to start getting tatty. US Fords were just not as well made as Euro models based on my recent experience.
Quality will most probably disappoint. After about 3 years it's quite likely to be going to start getting tatty. US Fords were just not as well made as Euro models based on my recent experience.
I don't see what all the fuss is about, every American car I have driven has been an utter turd or at least 10 years behind anything built in Europe. I can't believe people are falling over themselves to buy these things, the novelty will wear off quicker than the shine on the cheap plastic interior and they will be on the second hand market for peanuts.
tuffer said:
I don't see what all the fuss is about, every American car I have driven has been an utter turd or at least 10 years behind anything built in Europe. I can't believe people are falling over themselves to buy these things, the novelty will wear off quicker than the shine on the cheap plastic interior and they will be on the second hand market for peanuts.
This comment makes sense to me.People seem to see a fun side to these car's and I think it all bark's back to history.
I wouldn't buy any American car's personally.
tuffer said:
I don't see what all the fuss is about, every American car I have driven has been an utter turd or at least 10 years behind anything built in Europe. I can't believe people are falling over themselves to buy these things, the novelty will wear off quicker than the shine on the cheap plastic interior and they will be on the second hand market for peanuts.
Have you driven one? No?tuffer said:
I don't see what all the fuss is about, every American car I have driven has been an utter turd or at least 10 years behind anything built in Europe. I can't believe people are falling over themselves to buy these things, the novelty will wear off quicker than the shine on the cheap plastic interior and they will be on the second hand market for peanuts.
That's only true if you prefer your cars engineered to remove any requirement for talent or opportunity for engagement, which admittedly, the Germans excel at. If you need your car to flatter your abilities, buy German.Best regards,
A TVR owner.
jamieduff1981 said:
tuffer said:
I don't see what all the fuss is about, every American car I have driven has been an utter turd or at least 10 years behind anything built in Europe. I can't believe people are falling over themselves to buy these things, the novelty will wear off quicker than the shine on the cheap plastic interior and they will be on the second hand market for peanuts.
That's only true if you prefer your cars engineered to remove any requirement for talent or opportunity for engagement, which admittedly, the Germans excel at. If you need your car to flatter your abilities, buy German.Best regards,
A TVR owner.
I've not driven one but love the idea of the simple mechanics and stonky V8 with American muscle car noise. Keeping it simple and selling at a lower price bracket. I think that's great news.
The fact that there are more of these sold than higher up model TT's is even better news. If this is what the consumer wants then this pushes the manufacturers more towards petrolhead-type cars.
I wish all the owners many enjoyable miles in their new Mustangs. If they (the cars) were a tad smaller (for our British roads) I would have bought one too.
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