RE: The ?15K Jaguar XFR: You Know You Want To

[fatboy b]

giveablondeabone said:

Cars like these depreciate like they do for a reason.......................

And that reason is??

[fatboy b]

ST270 said:

Who agrees that the pre-facelift XF looks better than the post facelift? The deeper set lights seem to give the original instant recognition whereas the later models' narrow lights seem a bit generic?

Not many with you on that one.

[mikemike08]

Really doesnt appeal to me, it may be 500bhp but im sure its an arm and a leg to change all the bits that hve a maximum life of 6 years

[jamieduff1981]

mikemike08 said:

Really doesnt appeal to me, it may be 500bhp but im sure its an arm and a leg to change all the bits that hve a maximum life of 6 years

Such as? Evidence suggests these are amongst the most reliable super-saloon type cars going.

The R appears more reliable than the lower powered diesel models too, since its engine is particularly strong.

[J4CKO]

I think an XFR will be my next car after the CLS, so watching prices closely, would like to try one.

They do seem to be fairly robust, I would be more concerned about the V10 M5 as a prospect as it ages, cant say I have heard of any major issues with these.

Running them shouldnt be that painful if you can do bits yourself and go in expecting sub 20 mpg and maximum VED, similar deal to my Mercedes.


The seats I could live with, but if you have a compressor and a mind to, whip them out, sand them down and recolour them, it isnt quite as hard as your would imagine, £150 would cover it in materials, with the wheels I would wait until they need doing and go back to silver but they look in great condition.

I just need to do some saving up, nice to see they are dropping further into my price hunting range.

[jamieduff1981]

J4CKO said:

I think an XFR will be my next car after the CLS, so watching prices closely, would like to try one.

They do seem to be fairly robust, I would be more concerned about the V10 M5 as a prospect as it ages, cant say I have heard of any major issues with these.

Running them shouldnt be that painful if you can do bits yourself and go in expecting sub 20 mpg and maximum VED, similar deal to my Mercedes.


The seats I could live with, but if you have a compressor and a mind to, whip them out, sand them down and recolour them, it isnt quite as hard as your would imagine, £150 would cover it in materials, with the wheels I would wait until they need doing and go back to silver but they look in great condition.

I just need to do some saving up, nice to see they are dropping further into my price hunting range.

You wont be disappointed if you budget for 20mpg. My car has the 8 speed gearbox which is worth 1-2mpg better, but I average 22mpg if I am really hammering the car on rural roads, or more like 25~26mpg if I drive sensibly. On a long run it's over 30mpg end to end.

[anonymous-user]

Top of list of 'Cars I Can't Justify Right Now Due To Money Needed For Doing Up The House But Give It 2 Or 3 Years And I'm In'

It's not the snappiest of titles and it takes up most of the page that the list is written on. However, I've always liked the XF so to see that XFR's are slowly becoming available is great news.

Running costs be dammed, I'd have one without hesitation.

[giveablondeabone]

fatboy b said:

giveablondeabone said:

Cars like these depreciate like they do for a reason.......................

And that reason is??

That they are exceptionally expensive cars to run and whilst they are in family hatchback territory to buy they are most certainly not when it comes to running costs. Especially if you are gonna look after it properly.

And that cost still rules them out for most. Most people (the market) are aware of this, hence the depreciation.

Surprised I actually needed to spell that out to be honest.

[fatboy b]

giveablondeabone said:

fatboy b said:

giveablondeabone said:

Cars like these depreciate like they do for a reason.......................

And that reason is??

That they are exceptionally expensive cars to run and whilst they are in family hatchback territory to buy they are most certainly not when it comes to running costs. Especially if you are gonna look after it properly.

And that cost still rules them out for most. Most people (the market) are aware of this, hence the depreciation.

Surprised I actually needed to spell that out to be honest.

Don't be such a miserable knob. I asked as I genuinely didn't know what reason you were not forthcoming in mentioning. I though you may have incorrectly spouted on about how unreliable Jags are.

[alec.e]

Very nice, I actually like the seats, makes a change from full black. Just wish Jaguar had done the right thing and made it out of aluminium like the XJ prior to that, the performance & economy would have been fantastic. Still a very quick car though, 12.8 sec 1/4 mile compared to my X350s 13.4 sec time.

[ali_XFR]

giveablondeabone said:

fatboy b said:

giveablondeabone said:

Cars like these depreciate like they do for a reason.......................

And that reason is??

That they are exceptionally expensive cars to run and whilst they are in family hatchback territory to buy they are most certainly not when it comes to running costs. Especially if you are gonna look after it properly.

And that cost still rules them out for most. Most people (the market) are aware of this, hence the depreciation.

Surprised I actually needed to spell that out to be honest.

I've put 20000 miles on mine in just over18 months. It came with a year of Jag warranty and I pay £80ish a month for it to be extended. My service was £200 and to date it's needed:
A couple of tyres thanks to some punctures
That's pretty much it. i bought a set of winter tyres as its my only car and I have a 30 mile daily commute. It's taken in lots of long journeys including 1000miles over 4 days down to Cornwall and back up to Leeds. My 4 year old has done his best to kick the interior to bits and mash all manner of food and other organic matter into the suede roof lining or the ivory leather and it still scrubs up very well. It has to date been more reliable than the 2.7 diesel XJ it replaced. Granted it was much more than this £15k example but do you homework, get a warranty or have a rainy day fund and they aren't that much more than a premium family car to run. 18-20mpg around town depending on how heavy a right foot and high 20s on a run, just over £600 to insure. Fair enough my recreational drug of choice is petrol so I have a different view of what constitutes reasonable running costs but I still think it's reasonable.

[steve-5snwi]

I do like theses but isn't the sv8 a slightly better bargain even though it's not quite the same car.

[J4CKO]

jamieduff1981 said:

J4CKO said:

I think an XFR will be my next car after the CLS, so watching prices closely, would like to try one.

They do seem to be fairly robust, I would be more concerned about the V10 M5 as a prospect as it ages, cant say I have heard of any major issues with these.

Running them shouldnt be that painful if you can do bits yourself and go in expecting sub 20 mpg and maximum VED, similar deal to my Mercedes.


The seats I could live with, but if you have a compressor and a mind to, whip them out, sand them down and recolour them, it isnt quite as hard as your would imagine, £150 would cover it in materials, with the wheels I would wait until they need doing and go back to silver but they look in great condition.

I just need to do some saving up, nice to see they are dropping further into my price hunting range.

You wont be disappointed if you budget for 20mpg. My car has the 8 speed gearbox which is worth 1-2mpg better, but I average 22mpg if I am really hammering the car on rural roads, or more like 25~26mpg if I drive sensibly. On a long run it's over 30mpg end to end.

Yeah, I think car running cost and their shock depend entirely on what you have come from, I have prepared for my XFR via the 350Z and CLS, just need to get some funds together, I reckon I have another year or two in the CLS it is too nice to make the change just yet, need to get some use out of it.

[Quhet]

What's wrong with the seats? Beats black or grey every time!

[seopher]

I'm about to put mine up for sale (house purchase means I need the capital back for a year) but it's plausible that I'll buy another in the future.

Absolutely love owning it, especially with an aftermarket exhaust. A jet powered armchair in many ways, given it accelerates unlike anything in the price bracket and makes a superb noise too.

The only thing I don't like about it is the sluggish flash-powered touchscreen interface. It's sufficient but the only real place where it shows its age.

Led to believe they're reliable, though I've just had my air-con compressor replaced under warranty.

Expensive tax, harsh on tyres, thirsty (13.4mpg average), but I adore the thing.

[giveablondeabone]

fatboy b said:

giveablondeabone said:

fatboy b said:

giveablondeabone said:

Cars like these depreciate like they do for a reason.......................

And that reason is??

That they are exceptionally expensive cars to run and whilst they are in family hatchback territory to buy they are most certainly not when it comes to running costs. Especially if you are gonna look after it properly.

And that cost still rules them out for most. Most people (the market) are aware of this, hence the depreciation.

Surprised I actually needed to spell that out to be honest.

Don't be such a miserable knob. I asked as I genuinely didn't know what reason you were not forthcoming in mentioning. I though you may have incorrectly spouted on about how unreliable Jags are.

Hmmmm. Miserable knob. Nice response. Give yourself a pat on the back. Perhaps next time you ask a question based on an actual desire for specific information you could make the effort to be a little more, well, specific? That way your tone won't be ambiguous. Especially when it's 'that time of the month'.

[ORD]

30mpg? Why do people bother to buy fast cars and then drive them like hypermiling anoraks?

I would expect at best 20mpg from a car like that in normal mixed usage.

Lovely car at a very good price. It's had an easy life from the sounds of it.

[Dr Jezz]

ali_XFR said:

giveablondeabone said:

fatboy b said:

giveablondeabone said:

Cars like these depreciate like they do for a reason.......................

And that reason is??

That they are exceptionally expensive cars to run and whilst they are in family hatchback territory to buy they are most certainly not when it comes to running costs. Especially if you are gonna look after it properly.

And that cost still rules them out for most. Most people (the market) are aware of this, hence the depreciation.

Surprised I actually needed to spell that out to be honest.

I've put 20000 miles on mine in just over18 months. It came with a year of Jag warranty and I pay £80ish a month for it to be extended. My service was £200 and to date it's needed:
A couple of tyres thanks to some punctures
That's pretty much it. i bought a set of winter tyres as its my only car and I have a 30 mile daily commute. It's taken in lots of long journeys including 1000miles over 4 days down to Cornwall and back up to Leeds. My 4 year old has done his best to kick the interior to bits and mash all manner of food and other organic matter into the suede roof lining or the ivory leather and it still scrubs up very well. It has to date been more reliable than the 2.7 diesel XJ it replaced. Granted it was much more than this £15k example but do you homework, get a warranty or have a rainy day fund and they aren't that much more than a premium family car to run. 18-20mpg around town depending on how heavy a right foot and high 20s on a run, just over £600 to insure. Fair enough my recreational drug of choice is petrol so I have a different view of what constitutes reasonable running costs but I still think it's reasonable.

I'm still running an S type R which is now on about 110,000 miles and running just like my first S type manual that I specced from new. Really. This is my second and they have been very reliable over the massive mileages I've done in them including the Nurburgring, Oulton park and various other track days for a laugh along side my Elise. I did have to do some work on the suspension after deliberately cutting the corners repeatedly at Oulton for giggles, but that was at around 85,000 miles and was inexpensive at my specialist and I can't even remember the cost, so it couldn't have been too painful. The V8 seems to be pretty bomb proof if you keep it topped up with oil (don't wait for the indicator to tell you - this was a top tip from the specialist and its true). All in all, these Jags have been superb value and they are a steal at these prices and the upkeep is not expensive and there are few nasty surprises. A good specialist will keep you on the road for moderate outlay and I have never, ever, yet been let down in all this time. Didn't know that the XFRs were now into this territory - I just haven't been able to think of anything else I could get in the price range with the power, comfort and reliability ... now this seems like the obvious upgrade path for my mile-munching motorway shed/beast whilst keeping a Lotus on the the side for fun. I still have an eye out for an Evora shortly, but at this price, I can't see why I wouldn't keep one of these on the driveway also. They are highly recommended from my own personal experience.

[fatboy b]

giveablondeabone said:

Hmmmm. Miserable knob. Nice response. Give yourself a pat on the back. Perhaps next time you ask a question based on an actual desire for specific information you could make the effort to be a little more, well, specific? That way your tone won't be ambiguous. Especially when it's 'that time of the month'.

The irony is strong with this one

[peter450]

fatboy b said:

ST270 said:

Who agrees that the pre-facelift XF looks better than the post facelift? The deeper set lights seem to give the original instant recognition whereas the later models' narrow lights seem a bit generic?

Not many with you on that one.

I am