Whole generations wiped out

Whole generations wiped out

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Frances The Mute

1,816 posts

242 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Steamer said:
I saw a Maestro on a seemingly ridiculous modern plate recently - I seem to recall there was some left over stock or some weird imports knocking around.
I've seen a white example on a 51 plate. Quite the anachronism.

Lugy

830 posts

184 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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The original Renault Laguna seems to have vanished. My mum and step-dad had a 2.0 16v one which was a superb car to drive though became astonishingly expensive to run in it's later years which I guess killed most off!

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Astramax van !!! an icon back in the day ... oh maybe they are all safely locked away in private collections..

TR4man

5,234 posts

175 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Surely we are not mourning the loss of some of these cars?

Some of them were utter scensorede when new and their virtual extinction can only be a good thing.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Levin said:
Devil2575 said:
The scrappage scheme took a fraction of those sold. The reality is poor rust proofing and zero desirability. White goods that there was little to no value in preserving. As for the scrappage scheme being a tragedy, why? Is it a tragedy that you can't buy a fridge made in the 80s these days or a TV?

The fact is that most cars are white goods and those that aren't will be preserved by enthusiasts.
Look at my garage on my profile and you'll understand why its a tragedy. :P

From having taken a look at the figures for the scrappage scheme, you're totally right that it didn't take that many Sierras off the road. Unless there are a few different documents it looks like only around 500 were cubed... correlating with the observation that rust probably got more of them in the end. Desirability is another thing I can't disagree with you on: the Sierra was a beer money car for a long, long time after it went out of production. From memory, a 2000-ish CAP Black Book valued a Sapphire Ghia at a hair over a hundred quid.

So you're probably right; I had assumed the scrappage scheme had been the chief cause but it's entirely likely a lot of them reached the end of their serviceable life around the same time and were subsequently scrapped.
sadly the scrappage took the tidy older cars a lot were nice one older owner , they were cars that would have been kept or without the scappage traded in and found there way on to the better back street used car lots, ,rust and neglect took the others ,

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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TR4man said:
Surely we are not mourning the loss of some of these cars?

Some of them were utter scensorede when new and their virtual extinction can only be a good thing.
just about all of them where smile

Howard-

4,952 posts

203 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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caelite said:
Had a barried corsa B fly past me a few weeks ago. Made me realise how rare they are now. The wee 1.4 sri was a peach.
I kinda miss seeing cheap small cars barried up Max Power-style (always gave me something to chuckle at), or just a cheap hatchback which was all its young owner could afford. It feels a bit more 'honest' on the part of the owner rather than just the sea of leased/PCP'd blingy white diesel hatchbacks our roads are littered with nowadays.

Just me? boxedin

sjabrown

1,923 posts

161 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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To see these vehicles on the roads you just need to find a deprived estate, or village somewhere. In this village (Kinlochleven, 1000 residents) there are 2 Novas, one second generation Cavalier, one Maestro, multiple Mk1 Mondeos, a very elderly Punto and several Mk5 and Mk6 Escorts on the road.

IanCress

4,409 posts

167 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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peter ohanraha-hanrahan said:
How often do you see mk3 fiestas nowadays? A once abundant car rarely seen on contemporary roads.

What generations of cars have been wiped out almost altogether? And why? Whether it be sub par rust proofing or butchered by Barry boys, can you name a few generations that have been lost almost altogether?
peter ohanraha-hanrahan - YOU'VE LOST THE NEWS!!!!
Anyway
In another 25 years the roads will look completely different again. Every common car on the roads today will be a rare sight in 25 years.

It would be more interesting to think of cars that were popular 25 years ago that you still see on the roads now.

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Howard- said:
I kinda miss seeing cheap small cars barried up Max Power-style (always gave me something to chuckle at), or just a cheap hatchback which was all its young owner could afford. It feels a bit more 'honest' on the part of the owner rather than just the sea of leased/PCP'd blingy white diesel hatchbacks our roads are littered with nowadays.

Just me? boxedin
Definitely not. I love seeing barried cars. At least they're into cars! Not like Mr leased white audi. He's into "artisan coffee" and public masturbation.

Rare now though. It gives me inner peace to hear an underpowered 1.2 farting through a 5" slash cut backbox these days.

DiscoSINGH

271 posts

146 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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dudleybloke said:
Montegos and maestros.

Rust probably took most of them and rather than the scrappage scheme smile

Edited by DiscoSINGH on Friday 26th August 08:54

AH33

2,066 posts

136 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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IanCress said:
peter ohanraha-hanrahan - YOU'VE LOST THE NEWS!!!!
biggrin

Ich Nichten Lichten?

CaptainCosworth

5,890 posts

94 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Howard- said:
I kinda miss seeing cheap small cars barried up Max Power-style (always gave me something to chuckle at), or just a cheap hatchback which was all its young owner could afford. It feels a bit more 'honest' on the part of the owner rather than just the sea of leased/PCP'd blingy white diesel hatchbacks our roads are littered with nowadays.

Just me? boxedin
No, I agree. It used to be a right of passage when passing your test to get a small cheap car to cut your teeth on. Didn't matter what it was, just the fact you had a car was enough

My first car was a 1.1 Metro, all my mates had 80's/early 90's Fiesta's, Polo's, Nova's, etc. And they all ended up with a few dents and scrapes at the very least. Much better to get that stage out the way in something that's not worth much wink

Mr Adds

264 posts

150 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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I was thinking this last week when I saw an F plate Nova, cant remember the last time I saw a mk1 Mondeo, Mk1 Laguna, Cavaliers, mk1 Vectra's etc. Even old Volvos and BMW's are getting a lot more rare. Although I seem to see a lot more older Saabs and the like.

Edited by Mr Adds on Friday 26th August 09:08

AMGJocky

1,407 posts

117 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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poing said:
Fiat Uno
Renault 5
I would love to see more Renault 5's about.

Camoradi

4,294 posts

257 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Levin said:
sawman said:
I saw a sierra the other day - really cant remember the last one I saw (not that I have been looking)
The scrappage scheme took an awful lot of them off the road. A tragedy, if you ask me.
Kit car builders did their bit to free the road of Ford Sierras. I think of it as being like a fat caterpillar morphing into a butterfly, or some sort of ferocious stinging insect. smile

jayemm89

4,046 posts

131 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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I hardly see many fifth generation Astras now, perhaps they're just invisible?

DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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I saw a pristine XR4i in a supermarket car park last week.

An 80 yr-old biddy in my street has a Sierra Cosworth which probably does about 50 miles per week, albeit in a style intended by Ford.

veccy208

1,324 posts

102 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Mk1 Vectra definitely a good shout. Used to be everywhere. First gen clio? any of the older renfaults (21,19)

CrisW

522 posts

194 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Older Citroens with hydraulic suspension. Don;t see many BX, XM, Xantia etc down my way