Have I just been banned from driving :( :( UK

Have I just been banned from driving :( :( UK

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kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AH33 said:
Just because they change it to a 50 doesn't automatically make 70 dangerous.
I disagree for the reasons I stated above. Unless the road is completely empty of other traffic, travelling at 40mph over the speed limit is fundamentally more dangerous than travelling at 20mph over the speed limit even if the two speeds are the same on the same stretch of road because the expectations of some other drivers will be different.

R E S T E C P

660 posts

105 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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SWoll said:
mikemike08 said:
110mph, you irresponsible tt. Dont you know each time you go past 93mph one new born baby dies ?
Came back from the continent where the average speed is 90mph, done 4000 miles and not seen 1 crash. And i reckon its busier there than here and the motorway is just a dual carriageway ffs
Always one...

Anecdotal evidence is so very compelling isn't it? I've just got back myself and seen the aftermath of 2 or 3.

UK drivers are not used to being overtaken at 110+ so therefore it is a dangerous practice.
Exactly.
It's even a problem on the de-restricted bits of autobahn - you're going 110mph and see a dot in your mirror so think nothing of pulling out, but by the time you've changed lane the dot is filling up your entire mirror and braking from 180mph to avoid going into the back of you.

110mph might be safe enough on certain UK roads when they're empty (not as safe as 70mph - but safe enough), but saying you did 110mph+ because it was the safest way to overtake a truck doing 50mph..... Yeah, OK rolleyes

toasty

7,472 posts

220 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Dog Star said:
You'll be fine OP, he was just giving you a little warning. I've had it happen myself.

Don't worry about it.
+1 had this happen a few times.

Proper policing IMHO. "You're being naughty, now behave and go on your way"

vixen1700

22,899 posts

270 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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culpz said:
I'd say it was just a bit of a warning not to do something like that again. They were most likely already on a job that took priority and it wasn't worth pulling you over and going through the motions for the sake of quick blip. I'd consider yourself very lucky.
I'd go along with this really. smile

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

231 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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toasty said:
Dog Star said:
You'll be fine OP, he was just giving you a little warning. I've had it happen myself.

Don't worry about it.
+1 had this happen a few times.

Proper policing IMHO. "You're being naughty, now behave and go on your way"
He will probably be driving well within the rules for 6 months, so I would say its worked.

I know I would be.

32Ford29

64 posts

92 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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As others have said, take this as a warning to "screw the nut" you will be fine.

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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SWoll said:
Again, it's for no good reason in 'your opinion'. Unless you've got access to all of the accident statistics and development plans for that piece of road you have no idea whether it's justified or not.

Always love the 'everyone does it anyway' reasoning, a good basis to live your life by I always think.

And, are you really always in so much of a rush that dropping a few MPH every now and then causes a massive problem? If so, you could probably do with leaving earlier?
I've searched for statistics for that bit, but I can't find any. I'd love to see them.

The 'everyone does it anyway' argument works for a lot of bad laws. Speed limits, like other laws, need to be reasonable or people will ignore them when they really shouldn't. I'm all for 20 zones past schools etc but I will not do 50mph on a dual carriageway. It's ridiculous.

No, i'm generally not in a rush at all, I just enjoy driving quickly.

AshBurrows

2,552 posts

162 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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I thought coppers always drove 2 up? This has always been my way of looking out for undercover cars on the m40. Will have to be even more careful now I suppose.

red_slr

17,231 posts

189 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Q5, plain clothes, one up.

My thought is not police, or if it was police it was someone in their job car / take home car on their way home (i.e ACC eatl).

Give you a dose of the blues to remind you to keep it sensible..

Either way I doubt you will hear anything else about it.

red_slr

17,231 posts

189 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AshBurrows said:
I thought coppers always drove 2 up? This has always been my way of looking out for undercover cars on the m40. Will have to be even more careful now I suppose.
Traffic are generally single manned. Rare to get 2 man car tbh. Some forces do operate 2 man for motorways though. Others single crew.

Proactive units and specialist units are almost always 2 up as they need this for officer safety and their roles are generally one to drive and deal with traffic etc and the other to concentrate on the job in hand, comms, navigating etc.

Edin430

940 posts

204 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Am I the only one wondering why you would post your speed and illegal driving openly on a forum for all to see?

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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eltax91 said:
Are you even sure it was a copper? Might've been the personal car of the fire chief
I was thinking this as well. Could be the fire service rather than a copper but obviously he'd have been taking the p*** and you'd think he wouldn't be so foolish. More likely it was a decent copper giving you nothing more than a reality check (without the fine/points/ban) so I'd be thinking myself very lucky!

Shnozz

27,473 posts

271 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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There was a certain PHer (who shall remain nameless) who once had "crazy headlights" fitted in a fairly anonymous but quick car he owned. Basically a cheap ebay strobe that would alternate the headlights.

He would use it in heavy traffic to make swifter progress.

I'll never forget the time he was late for our Le Mans ferry one year and came screaming around the bend with crazy headlights on the go and his gurning grin hammering down on us.

Ah, happy times.

Alas, I digress.

AMGJocky

1,407 posts

116 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AH33 said:
SWoll said:
You might want to consider slowing down then before something does? If you're consistently doing 60% over the posted limit then you're driving like a tt, simple as. Just because you don't think it's justified is meaningless.
No, the road is a 50, but for no good reason. For years it was a 70, its a straight dual carriageway - the A1!. 80 in a 70 isn't a problem, just because they change it to a 50 doesn't automatically make 70 dangerous. Everyone does it anyway. If you sit at 50 you'll be passed by absolutely everything.

60% over the limit sounds bad, but really it's only a problem in certain places.

Some of the 20 zones here used to be 30 limits that people did 40 through because they have no pedestrians and are wide enough to fit 8 cars side by side. I'm not going to suddenly start trundling through there at 20 because some idiot council woman got them to stick a pole up with a number on it.
You do realise you can't just go whatever speed you want right? Because if I were to paraphrase the above, that's what it would read as.

Touch wood you get caught soon.

AH33 said:
No, i'm generally not in a rush at all, I just enjoy driving quickly.
Get down to Castle Combe and drive 'quickly' rather on the roads my family use. Don't care if I sound like a stiff, you come across as a prize ..

SWoll

18,364 posts

258 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AH33 said:
SWoll said:
Again, it's for no good reason in 'your opinion'. Unless you've got access to all of the accident statistics and development plans for that piece of road you have no idea whether it's justified or not.

Always love the 'everyone does it anyway' reasoning, a good basis to live your life by I always think.

And, are you really always in so much of a rush that dropping a few MPH every now and then causes a massive problem? If so, you could probably do with leaving earlier?
I've searched for statistics for that bit, but I can't find any. I'd love to see them.

The 'everyone does it anyway' argument works for a lot of bad laws. Speed limits, like other laws, need to be reasonable or people will ignore them when they really shouldn't. I'm all for 20 zones past schools etc but I will not do 50mph on a dual carriageway. It's ridiculous.

No, i'm generally not in a rush at all, I just enjoy driving quickly.
With this being PH I think I can safely state that we all do, and I'm not suggesting for a second that I stick within the limits all of the time because I certainly don't but at the end of the day if there is a limit posted in a built up area sticking within 10% of it is usually a decent rule of thumb IMHO. I'll probably do an extra 15-20% on A roads or M-Ways most of the time but again that will be based on the conditions and traffic rather than a rule.

I prefer to have my fun on nice, twisty country lanes where you can still enjoy driving without having to speed all that much at all.


AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Edin430 said:
Am I the only one wondering why you would post your speed and illegal driving openly on a forum for all to see?
It's not exactly evidence is it? People could say anything. You could have been making it up, You could have been talking about a third person. You could claim to have done all sorts of illegal things online, that's not evidence you've actually done them.

That'll mainly apply to people who plaster their real name and photos everywhere on social media and then post a video of them doing 120 down a country lane and wonder how the police caught them.

SWoll

18,364 posts

258 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Shnozz said:
There was a certain PHer (who shall remain nameless) who once had "crazy headlights" fitted in a fairly anonymous but quick car he owned. Basically a cheap ebay strobe that would alternate the headlights.

He would use it in heavy traffic to make swifter progress.

I'll never forget the time he was late for our Le Mans ferry one year and came screaming around the bend with crazy headlights on the go and his gurning grin hammering down on us.

Ah, happy times.

Alas, I digress.
Sounds like a right . Ever get caught doing it?

Stormfly1985

2,699 posts

166 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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Why are people getting so worked up? It's not like the event the OP posted actually happened. wink

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AMGJocky said:
Get down to Castle Combe and drive 'quickly' rather on the roads my family use. Don't care if I sound like a stiff, you come across as a prize ..
Driving fast is not driving stupidly. Your family are more at risk from the dozy mare who pulls into your lane without signalling or tries to drive the wrong way down the motorway. You'll never get that from me.

A track day at Castle Combe is £170. Then there's actually getting there, the fuel, tyres, the special insurance and massively increased chance of a crash. Or I could just enjoy my car on the road, within reason.

ETA - It's also in Wiltshire and i'm in Scotland. Fair way to go just go get my foot down a bit biggrin

I don't want to come across as some traffic weaving fast and the furious wannabe, i'm really not. I just can't see why you'd reduce a 70mph DC to a 50 and what was fine for years is suddenly "dangerous". It isn't.

Edited by AH33 on Friday 26th August 11:27

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Friday 26th August 2016
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AMGJocky said:
Get down to Castle Combe and drive 'quickly' rather on the roads my family use. Don't care if I sound like a stiff, you come across as a prize ..
Fascinating logic here. Either you are sticking rigidly to the speed on the sign irrespective of circumstances, or you are driving at whatever speed you like irrespective of the consequences. Apparently there is no other option.