having to pay to park in the park car park....
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Jaguar steve said:
Exactly this. Nowhere else I've been in Europe wallet rapes like the UK does for parking. It's always either free or in particularly rammed places like Madrid or Barcelona city centres or some beaches in the south of France charges are a few cents an hour and you usually pay on leaving for exactly the time to the minute you've been there. Not a thought of refusal to give change or demand for reg numbers or paying up front in sight.
I get why organizations like the National Trust have to charge but most of the run down s
t holes that pass themselves off as holiday resorts in the UK or individuals who charge way more than a large family round of ice creams to park in a pot holed and mud slicked field full of stinging nettles by a beach or local authorities who think charging for a visit to a invariably neglected park with flowerbeds full of weeds and a liberal scattering of used syringes, graffiti, litter and dog st all over are absolutely taking the piss.
Local authorities and people who do so are obviously too dim witted to work out they ought to be encouraging and welcoming people ready to spend time and money in the area and not shafting them vigorously up the arse before the car is even out of sight and at the same time leaving the threat of big fines and penalties if they dare to overstay. All that actually does is make everybody scuttle off promptly once the three hours or whatever is up rather than hanging around for longer and potentially supporting local businesses by having a meal in a restaurant, doing some more shopping or spending the evening in the pub.
Well said.I get why organizations like the National Trust have to charge but most of the run down s
t holes that pass themselves off as holiday resorts in the UK or individuals who charge way more than a large family round of ice creams to park in a pot holed and mud slicked field full of stinging nettles by a beach or local authorities who think charging for a visit to a invariably neglected park with flowerbeds full of weeds and a liberal scattering of used syringes, graffiti, litter and dog st all over are absolutely taking the piss. Local authorities and people who do so are obviously too dim witted to work out they ought to be encouraging and welcoming people ready to spend time and money in the area and not shafting them vigorously up the arse before the car is even out of sight and at the same time leaving the threat of big fines and penalties if they dare to overstay. All that actually does is make everybody scuttle off promptly once the three hours or whatever is up rather than hanging around for longer and potentially supporting local businesses by having a meal in a restaurant, doing some more shopping or spending the evening in the pub.
Amazing how people are conditioned to accept a lot of things like this nowadays,what they don't realise is the creep,next thing is its 5 quid an hour.
TooMany2cvs said:
davidc1 said:
Anything to discourage people to exercise is rotten.especially as alot of people have no garden - the park is their garden.
Perhaps they could walk TO the park...?What next charging to actually use the park?!
Jim AK said:
Want to know a real Piss take?
£3 for 10 minutes to drop passengers at Luton Airport........ Charged at an unknown to me cost at Stanstead too apparently!!!
Yup BTDT several times a year. And a £75 fine if you go over 10 min by leaving the car to help your 88 year old mum with a heavy case into the terminal, find her check in desk for her and sprint back only to find a pair of absolutely brain dead cretins have blocked you in and wandered off themselves. £3 for 10 minutes to drop passengers at Luton Airport........ Charged at an unknown to me cost at Stanstead too apparently!!!
Neither of them seemed to have put their handbrakes on particularly hard 'tho and I was driving the Shed. I don't think I did any damage to either of their bumpers but it was just after 5am and still dark...
Funkycoldribena said:
Jaguar steve said:
Exactly this. Nowhere else I've been in Europe wallet rapes like the UK does for parking. It's always either free or in particularly rammed places like Madrid or Barcelona city centres or some beaches in the south of France charges are a few cents an hour and you usually pay on leaving for exactly the time to the minute you've been there. Not a thought of refusal to give change or demand for reg numbers or paying up front in sight.
I get why organizations like the National Trust have to charge but most of the run down st holes that pass themselves off as holiday resorts in the UK or individuals who charge way more than a large family round of ice creams to park in a pot holed and mud slicked field full of stinging nettles by a beach or local authorities who think charging for a visit to a invariably neglected park with flowerbeds full of weeds and a liberal scattering of used syringes, graffiti, litter and dog st all over are absolutely taking the piss.
Local authorities and people who do so are obviously too dim witted to work out they ought to be encouraging and welcoming people ready to spend time and money in the area and not shafting them vigorously up the arse before the car is even out of sight and at the same time leaving the threat of big fines and penalties if they dare to overstay. All that actually does is make everybody scuttle off promptly once the three hours or whatever is up rather than hanging around for longer and potentially supporting local businesses by having a meal in a restaurant, doing some more shopping or spending the evening in the pub.
Well said.I get why organizations like the National Trust have to charge but most of the run down s
t holes that pass themselves off as holiday resorts in the UK or individuals who charge way more than a large family round of ice creams to park in a pot holed and mud slicked field full of stinging nettles by a beach or local authorities who think charging for a visit to a invariably neglected park with flowerbeds full of weeds and a liberal scattering of used syringes, graffiti, litter and dog st all over are absolutely taking the piss. Local authorities and people who do so are obviously too dim witted to work out they ought to be encouraging and welcoming people ready to spend time and money in the area and not shafting them vigorously up the arse before the car is even out of sight and at the same time leaving the threat of big fines and penalties if they dare to overstay. All that actually does is make everybody scuttle off promptly once the three hours or whatever is up rather than hanging around for longer and potentially supporting local businesses by having a meal in a restaurant, doing some more shopping or spending the evening in the pub.
Amazing how people are conditioned to accept a lot of things like this nowadays,what they don't realise is the creep,next thing is its 5 quid an hour.
The French, Spanish and Greeks in particular would immediately set light to loads of stuff in the streets, ransack any public office they could break into and paralyze the county for weeks if anybody in authority even though about trying it on.
Jaguar steve said:
There'd be riots and carnage all over if anywhere else in Europe attempted to take the piss out of its citizens and their money like the UK does.
I'd love to know where this idea that parking's free or dirt cheap all over the rest of Europe's come from. Because, ime, it has absolutely no resemblance to reality...
Jaguar steve said:
The French, Spanish and Greeks in particular would immediately set light to loads of stuff in the streets, ransack any public office they could break into and paralyze the county for weeks if anybody in authority even though about trying it on.
The Greeks do that if you tell them they're supposed to pay tax, so that wouldn't surprise me at all. Why pay for your country when you can get other European countries to pay instead?Jaguar steve said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Jaguar steve said:
Exactly this. Nowhere else I've been in Europe wallet rapes like the UK does for parking. It's always either free or in particularly rammed places like Madrid or Barcelona city centres or some beaches in the south of France charges are a few cents an hour and you usually pay on leaving for exactly the time to the minute you've been there. Not a thought of refusal to give change or demand for reg numbers or paying up front in sight.
I get why organizations like the National Trust have to charge but most of the run down st holes that pass themselves off as holiday resorts in the UK or individuals who charge way more than a large family round of ice creams to park in a pot holed and mud slicked field full of stinging nettles by a beach or local authorities who think charging for a visit to a invariably neglected park with flowerbeds full of weeds and a liberal scattering of used syringes, graffiti, litter and dog st all over are absolutely taking the piss.
Local authorities and people who do so are obviously too dim witted to work out they ought to be encouraging and welcoming people ready to spend time and money in the area and not shafting them vigorously up the arse before the car is even out of sight and at the same time leaving the threat of big fines and penalties if they dare to overstay. All that actually does is make everybody scuttle off promptly once the three hours or whatever is up rather than hanging around for longer and potentially supporting local businesses by having a meal in a restaurant, doing some more shopping or spending the evening in the pub.
Well said.I get why organizations like the National Trust have to charge but most of the run down s
t holes that pass themselves off as holiday resorts in the UK or individuals who charge way more than a large family round of ice creams to park in a pot holed and mud slicked field full of stinging nettles by a beach or local authorities who think charging for a visit to a invariably neglected park with flowerbeds full of weeds and a liberal scattering of used syringes, graffiti, litter and dog st all over are absolutely taking the piss. Local authorities and people who do so are obviously too dim witted to work out they ought to be encouraging and welcoming people ready to spend time and money in the area and not shafting them vigorously up the arse before the car is even out of sight and at the same time leaving the threat of big fines and penalties if they dare to overstay. All that actually does is make everybody scuttle off promptly once the three hours or whatever is up rather than hanging around for longer and potentially supporting local businesses by having a meal in a restaurant, doing some more shopping or spending the evening in the pub.
Amazing how people are conditioned to accept a lot of things like this nowadays,what they don't realise is the creep,next thing is its 5 quid an hour.
The French, Spanish and Greeks in particular would immediately set light to loads of stuff in the streets, ransack any public office they could break into and paralyze the county for weeks if anybody in authority even though about trying it on.
Worked in the hague for a few months, parking right next to the station (as that is where my workplace was, and no, public transport was not a realistic option), cost €26 per day, off course that was the maximum, the hourly rate was near €4/hr. Amsterdam will be worse then this, most major cities slightly better, but dont think you can park anywhere within half an hours walk of the city center without being wallet raped.
Even the town i live in (roughly 35K people) started paid parking in the center a few years back, as if the shopkeepers in the center of town could stand to lose some more customers. People living within the defined limits off course now have to pay for a parking permit, i luckily dont.
TooMany2cvs said:
Jaguar steve said:
There'd be riots and carnage all over if anywhere else in Europe attempted to take the piss out of its citizens and their money like the UK does.
I'd love to know where this idea that parking's free or dirt cheap all over the rest of Europe's come from. Because, ime, it has absolutely no resemblance to reality...On the rare occasions you do have to get your wallet out it's invariably in a brightly lit underground car park often with air conditioning running flat out and an attendant who'll tell you where to find a space and it'll only be a two min walk to the city centre. So no, not much to compare there with the shafting that is parking we get in the UK then IMO.
Funkycoldribena said:
Countdown said:
davidc1 said:
What next charging to actually use the park?!
So that people who use it are the ones who pay for it? 
- adults go in free if they're with a kid. maximum 1 adult to 3 kids.
- free entry for adults at 5-6am (for those getting their exercise in)
- dogs. no plastic bags/pooper scoopers, no admittance.
- chavvy teenagers in groups of 5 or more require ID.
TooMany2cvs said:
Jaguar steve said:
There'd be riots and carnage all over if anywhere else in Europe attempted to take the piss out of its citizens and their money like the UK does.
I'd love to know where this idea that parking's free or dirt cheap all over the rest of Europe's come from. Because, ime, it has absolutely no resemblance to reality...I have never had to pay to park by a French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian beach. Generally you only have to pay in city centres, even then most street parking is free.
blueg33 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Jaguar steve said:
There'd be riots and carnage all over if anywhere else in Europe attempted to take the piss out of its citizens and their money like the UK does.
I'd love to know where this idea that parking's free or dirt cheap all over the rest of Europe's come from. Because, ime, it has absolutely no resemblance to reality...TooMany2cvs said:
blueg33 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Jaguar steve said:
There'd be riots and carnage all over if anywhere else in Europe attempted to take the piss out of its citizens and their money like the UK does.
I'd love to know where this idea that parking's free or dirt cheap all over the rest of Europe's come from. Because, ime, it has absolutely no resemblance to reality...Often you have to pay for campers but not cars
blueg33 said:
In that case i really have no idea why you made thr comment you made.
Because my experience is that paid-for parking is the norm across swathes of Europe.blueg33 said:
Often you have to pay for campers but not cars
Sometimes, but not often, if you've got something that fits into a car bay (our only real issue was height - 2.7m tall hightop, 5m long with the bike rack). The one notable exception I remember was in one Italian town - the car rate was about €2/hr, but the camper rate was €8/hr. We went elsewhere.TooMany2cvs said:
blueg33 said:
In that case i really have no idea why you made thr comment you made.
Because my experience is that paid-for parking is the norm across swathes of Europe.blueg33 said:
Often you have to pay for campers but not cars
Sometimes, but not often, if you've got something that fits into a car bay (our only real issue was height - 2.7m tall hightop, 5m long with the bike rack). The one notable exception I remember was in one Italian town - the car rate was about €2/hr, but the camper rate was €8/hr. We went elsewhere.Your last para is a bit contradictory?
The council have just started charging here.
They installed barriers, ticket machines and painted yellow lines galore.
The only drawback is that parking is still under the control of the police and they haven't issued a single ticket in nearly a year.
It has certainly annoyed the few locals who bought season tickets.
blueg33 said:
All i can say is that the swathes of Europe you have been to are very different from the swathes of Europe that I and other posters have been to.
So it would seem. Webels that we are, we do have an outstanding unpaid parking ticket from Sighetu Marmației, having failed to pay and display when parking in the street...blueg33 said:
Your last para is a bit contradictory?
No, it isn't. Not if you follow the words with your finger. There's a clue in the words "Sometimes, but not often..." and "The one notable exception...".Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff