Cars types or manufacturers you would never purchase.
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There is an awful lot of drivel in this thread and I imagine most of it is badly disguised provocation, but on a serious note I can't think of any manufacturer that doesn't make something that could appeal, save maybe for Ssangyoung.
I don't really like current Mercedes, but if they make a great 6pot manual a saloon I would be interested. Audi occasionally make a decent handling car, French stuff is often comfy, Japanese stuff is often über reliable, skoda are great value for what they are, Dacia are even cheaper, Kia and Hyundai are surprisingly good these days and those warranties are great... I could go on.
I don't really like current Mercedes, but if they make a great 6pot manual a saloon I would be interested. Audi occasionally make a decent handling car, French stuff is often comfy, Japanese stuff is often über reliable, skoda are great value for what they are, Dacia are even cheaper, Kia and Hyundai are surprisingly good these days and those warranties are great... I could go on.
MikeTFSI said:
There is an awful lot of drivel in this thread and I imagine most of it is badly disguised provocation, but on a serious note I can't think of any manufacturer that doesn't make something that could appeal, save maybe for Ssangyoung.
Indeed. Can't imagine myself in a people carrier type car as it's only me and my wife.
Also can't ever see myself buying a Morgan, as basically I'm not the type (there's a thread for you ) and not that I dislike their products, far from it.
axel1990chp said:
Ill never purchase VW again. I've had nothing but issues with my Golf R,
I would go a step further and say no more VAG, but alas there are minor differences.
Sounds more like a dealership issue then a VW issue, as the main problem is how the dealer interacted with you.I would go a step further and say no more VAG, but alas there are minor differences.
If the technical things are a big enough reason to extend it to VW entirely, i'd go full VAG-ban, all of their (common) stuff is based on the same tech.
MikeTFSI said:
There is an awful lot of drivel in this thread and I imagine most of it is badly disguised provocation, but on a serious note I can't think of any manufacturer that doesn't make something that could appeal, save maybe for Ssangyoung.
I don't really like current Mercedes, but if they make a great 6pot manual a saloon I would be interested. Audi occasionally make a decent handling car, French stuff is often comfy, Japanese stuff is often über reliable, skoda are great value for what they are, Dacia are even cheaper, Kia and Hyundai are surprisingly good these days and those warranties are great... I could go on.
There is more then enough choice in pretty much any segment, Vauxhall doesnt have to have kicked my dog for me to decide i never want to buy one of their products, there are so many alternatives for any of them that it isnt a big stretch to exclude them from consideration (ill buy a kia rio before i consider a corsa etc..)I don't really like current Mercedes, but if they make a great 6pot manual a saloon I would be interested. Audi occasionally make a decent handling car, French stuff is often comfy, Japanese stuff is often über reliable, skoda are great value for what they are, Dacia are even cheaper, Kia and Hyundai are surprisingly good these days and those warranties are great... I could go on.
Blimey, seems like there isn't a single manufacturer (mass produced, at least) that manages to be universally liked and admired. Theres always someone who'll find a reason to dislike your products.
My own thoughts would be that I'd never own a 'soft-roader' type of SUV as for me they don't really serve a purpose. Brand-wise I'm pretty sure I can find a car from every manufacturer that I'd be happy to own, although I'd genuinely struggle with the thought of owning a Vauxhall! Not that many manufacturers make cars that I actually desire, though!
My own thoughts would be that I'd never own a 'soft-roader' type of SUV as for me they don't really serve a purpose. Brand-wise I'm pretty sure I can find a car from every manufacturer that I'd be happy to own, although I'd genuinely struggle with the thought of owning a Vauxhall! Not that many manufacturers make cars that I actually desire, though!
S10GTA said:
simonr100 said:
I would never own a Volvo - they are associated with those 65+ years of age with no taste and who can't drive(totally unaware of those around them).I would hope that when I am that age that I will still have some sense of style and avoid crap like Volvos! I guess those that buy them also haven't had their life turn out quite as good as they hoped of they would have bought a premium brand rather than a Volvo.
I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
What a load of toss. You do know they do hot versions don't you?I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
I particularly dislike your last comment about life not turning out as good as they hoped. I certainly don't aspire to own a premium brand. Volvos are pretty good to be honest.
Unfortunately some people base their idea of success/happiness around the sort of car they drive.
VAG mainly down to he fact that none of their cars have any real appeal.
Mercedes, had one, done that, been there, turned off. The modern ones more so, the designs have become far too fussy and have become rather garish. My farther had a recent A series as a hire car and had parked it on my drive. Anyway, I had to move it to get my bin out, dear god what a god awful interior, cramped, no elbow room, overly fussy design and the bloody brakes! no feel and hyper-sensitive to even the slightest of pressure (made the E46 that I had a test drive of seem fine by comparison, I damn near had a BMW badge imprinted on my forehead after that one).
Vauxhall, pretty much for the same reasons as VAG, they just don't hold any appeal to me (barring the V8 range i.e. Monaro/VXR8, Aussie Holdens, and the VX220, effectively Lotus).
A modern Mondeo, walked past a 15 plate estate on Friday, looked nice inside but I had to look at the model badge on the way back because I initially thought it was one of their soft-roaders due to to the shear height of the nose (and frankly the Mondeo in general simply down to shear bulk anyway).
The biggest turn off for any car for me would be over servo'd brakes. I'll happily give anything that I find appealing a once over but if I have to be tiptoeing around the brake pedal (meaning even more concentration) I'll simply disregard, far too much work and tiring to drive (you can bung a Punto in here as well, had one as a courtesy car... never... again... :shudder: ).
Mercedes, had one, done that, been there, turned off. The modern ones more so, the designs have become far too fussy and have become rather garish. My farther had a recent A series as a hire car and had parked it on my drive. Anyway, I had to move it to get my bin out, dear god what a god awful interior, cramped, no elbow room, overly fussy design and the bloody brakes! no feel and hyper-sensitive to even the slightest of pressure (made the E46 that I had a test drive of seem fine by comparison, I damn near had a BMW badge imprinted on my forehead after that one).
Vauxhall, pretty much for the same reasons as VAG, they just don't hold any appeal to me (barring the V8 range i.e. Monaro/VXR8, Aussie Holdens, and the VX220, effectively Lotus).
A modern Mondeo, walked past a 15 plate estate on Friday, looked nice inside but I had to look at the model badge on the way back because I initially thought it was one of their soft-roaders due to to the shear height of the nose (and frankly the Mondeo in general simply down to shear bulk anyway).
The biggest turn off for any car for me would be over servo'd brakes. I'll happily give anything that I find appealing a once over but if I have to be tiptoeing around the brake pedal (meaning even more concentration) I'll simply disregard, far too much work and tiring to drive (you can bung a Punto in here as well, had one as a courtesy car... never... again... :shudder: ).
Crafty_ said:
HairyMaclary said:
Vauxhall. I dont live on a council estate.
Ironically you are much more likely to see leased Audis etc on a council estate than an older Vauxhall.The older couple next door have an Astra, still looks exactly like when they bought it in 2001, has never given any trouble, my brother has one he was given by his in laws, it has not given any hassle either, he is saving for something else but it has given us an appreciation that though a little rough and ready they are decent enough cars.
Oh, and if you would like to join in on this "council estate", the house across the road is up for 750 grand.
S10GTA said:
simonr100 said:
I would never own a Volvo - they are associated with those 65+ years of age with no taste and who can't drive(totally unaware of those around them).I would hope that when I am that age that I will still have some sense of style and avoid crap like Volvos! I guess those that buy them also haven't had their life turn out quite as good as they hoped of they would have bought a premium brand rather than a Volvo.
I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
What a load of toss. You do know they do hot versions don't you?I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
I particularly dislike your last comment about life not turning out as good as they hoped. I certainly don't aspire to own a premium brand. Volvos are pretty good to be honest.
It is irrelevant if they make a "hot" version - Volvo have an image that's hard to shake similar to the problem Skoda have faced, Skoda are getting there but we all remember the Skoda jokes and image. Volvo haven't been able to change their image - an image you either want to be part of or not.......
Buy what you like - that's all that matters.
simonr100 said:
S10GTA said:
simonr100 said:
I would never own a Volvo - they are associated with those 65+ years of age with no taste and who can't drive(totally unaware of those around them).I would hope that when I am that age that I will still have some sense of style and avoid crap like Volvos! I guess those that buy them also haven't had their life turn out quite as good as they hoped of they would have bought a premium brand rather than a Volvo.
I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
What a load of toss. You do know they do hot versions don't you?I dislike the current image of Audi but I love some of the older cars like the RS2
I particularly dislike your last comment about life not turning out as good as they hoped. I certainly don't aspire to own a premium brand. Volvos are pretty good to be honest.
It is irrelevant if they make a "hot" version - Volvo have an image that's hard to shake similar to the problem Skoda have faced, Skoda are getting there but we all remember the Skoda jokes and image. Volvo haven't been able to change their image - an image you either want to be part of or not.......
Buy what you like - that's all that matters.
Also, Volvo owners obviously aspire to own one as they bought one, I dont think they are all driving round wishing they had something German, I think a lot actively dont want something German, perhaps finding them a bit vulgar and obvious, the X5 and Q7 are nice cars but they do come with some image baggage, the XC90 is a lot less of a statement and I think they seem classier for it.
J4CKO said:
I dont think most people actually remember the old Skoda jokes, or are at least smart enough to realise that seventies jokes by Jasper Carrott were referencing the old cars which were *slightly* better Lada alternative.
Also, Volvo owners obviously aspire to own one as they bought one, I dont think they are all driving round wishing they had something German, I think a lot actively dont want something German, perhaps finding them a bit vulgar and obvious, the X5 and Q7 are nice cars but they do come with some image baggage, the XC90 is a lot less of a statement and I think they seem classier for it.
Got rid of my V70 for an E class. Volvo was a much more comfortable.Also, Volvo owners obviously aspire to own one as they bought one, I dont think they are all driving round wishing they had something German, I think a lot actively dont want something German, perhaps finding them a bit vulgar and obvious, the X5 and Q7 are nice cars but they do come with some image baggage, the XC90 is a lot less of a statement and I think they seem classier for it.
There was a thread here about the Volvo image some time ago & I think the general consensus was that they are somewhat underrated these days.
I guess if you have an Aston & a McClaren, like Simon, life's more than Tickety Boo!
kambites said:
In the entirety of VAG's portfolio, nothing appeals to you? That's quite impressive
Pretty much, I realize that they have a rather large portfolio of vehicles, that include some otherwise very desirable vehicles, but right now none of them light my fire so to speak. Audi, VW neither have even the slightest bit of appeal (not even the RS/GT lines), Skoda/Seat better more distinctive design but still... As for Bugatti and Bentley? nah and for some unfathomable reason I just don't like Porsche styling (I don't mind Scania but I can't see me using one as a daily ). I'll recognize their solid qualities, Bentley and Bugatti for the out and out opulence and performance, Porsche for the handling and the rest of the VAG group for their work-a-day qualities it's just that I couldn't ever bring myself to part money for them (not even for shed money). I'd just want a car that makes me smile when I'm either walking away or walking up to it and I'm afraid regardless of handling/performance that a VAG car just doesn't do that for me.I've always considered my tastes in various things rather odd, it seems that it extends to cars as well
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