locking wheel nut snapped, half now left on stud!!

locking wheel nut snapped, half now left on stud!!

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Londontaximan

Original Poster:

513 posts

164 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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So can't even knock a socket on it now, any ideas.I'm thinking maybe lots of drilling and a chisle.

richs2891

897 posts

253 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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Large pliers ?

Or if space in the bits that peaks up cut a slot into whats left insert a flat blade screwdriver and unwind ?

Boosted LS1

21,187 posts

260 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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If that's the lock in your hand then a few taps with a chisel may remove the nut. I'll wish you luck but it's what I'd do, initially. Otherwise it's a grinding job with an air tool.

Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Londontaximan

Original Poster:

513 posts

164 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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it was really tight, had an 18" long wrench on the lock key and was giving it some serious leverage before it snapped. Doubt pliers would shift it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 27th August 2016
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I used an impact gun and nut removed, it took me about 40 minutes so a lot of perseverance

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

109 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.
^^^^^^^ This is looking like the best way, I doubt whats left of that nut will be strong enough to chisel and turn

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.
^This, or if you can pop the centre cap off, remove wheel and hub together, grind the head off the stud and knock it out from the back.
Studs are a lot cheaper than wheels.

Old Merc

3,490 posts

167 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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Why not employ these guys, http://www.threaddoctorservicesltd.co.uk/ they have got me out of the S*** a number of times.It wont cost you a fortune,it will save you lots of time and will save your wheels (and fingers)from damage.
While you're at it remove the other three locking nuts and bin them.Standard nuts/bolts lightly greased and properly torqued up.
Locking wheel nuts cause more grief and time wasting than all the other car problems put together.People don't bother jacking up cars and stealing wheels these days.You are more likely to be mugged and have the whole car stolen.

Edited by Old Merc on Sunday 28th August 11:04

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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AW111 said:
CrutyRammers said:
That's the nut itself, right, not the key?
If so, what a total pain. I'd probably be looking at drilling down the centre of the stud, drill the stud out and replace it. Can't imagine you'll get enough leverage with anything else, and you're likely to put big graunches in the wheel if you try.
^This, or if you can pop the centre cap off, remove wheel and hub together, grind the head off the stud and knock it out from the back.
Studs are a lot cheaper than wheels.
Ooooh I like that, much safer for the wheel. Getting hubs off can be a bit of a mission but it'll definately be easier to get the stud out that way.

Londontaximan

Original Poster:

513 posts

164 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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fixed today for a tenner. a back street tyre bay hammered on a socket on the remaining bit of bolt. a 2 foot breaker bar eased it off.
Thanks for the replies. Result!!

Turn7

23,608 posts

221 months

Sunday 28th August 2016
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.......and breathe...

Bet that made your day didnt it ?

BTW, a pic of the car in question is required as that looks like classic Mustang to me ?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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AW111 said:
^This, or if you can pop the centre cap off, remove wheel and hub together, grind the head off the stud and knock it out from the back.
Studs are a lot cheaper than wheels.
Unlikely to be possible on anything remotely modern since the disc will be trapped by the caliper and carrier. Even if you jacked the car up, removing the caliper from the rear with the wheel still in place is likely impossible unless you have something with tiny discs and huge wheels.

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Monday 29th August 2016
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Mr2Mike said:
Unlikely to be possible on anything remotely modern since the disc will be trapped by the caliper and carrier. Even if you jacked the car up, removing the caliper from the rear with the wheel still in place is likely impossible unless you have something with tiny discs and huge wheels.
Very much depends on the car and wheel design. I can see the caliper mount bolts on mine between the spokes (although I've never had to try and remove wheel and calioer together).

buzzer

3,543 posts

240 months

Tuesday 30th August 2016
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That really is bad luck..

If it were mine, I would centre punch the stud and drill it out with progressively bigger drills. then change the stud for a new one.


Ah, just noticed you fixed it, great news



helix402

7,859 posts

182 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Don't grease wheel bolts.

Auntieroll

543 posts

184 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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helix402 said:
Don't grease wheel bolts.
Why not?

finlo

3,759 posts

203 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Auntieroll said:
Why not?
So you don't over torque them, but when did you last torque your wheel nuts/bolts.

helix402

7,859 posts

182 months

Sunday 4th September 2016
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Grease on threads affects the tightening torque. Difficult to remove wheel nuts/bolts are not due to corrosion, they are due to over tightening.