Changing steering wheel and airbag light

[gizlaroc]

You can buy a box for £10 that plugs into the seat sensor, there is only one on passenger side, they presume the car always has a driver.

This will leave the passenger side airbag active all the time I believe.

[feef]

Slow said:

Doesn't the airbag light have to come on then go off so removing the bulb is of no help.

In regards to the rally car use, the car would be on coilovers, buckets, different steering wheel and partially stripped. Would this classify if I had a kind tester?

It says 'e.g.' so uses a rally car as an example of 'extensively modified', not a definitive rule of what is required to be classed as 'extensively modified'

[SonicShadow]

https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/when-is-a-mod...

[brman]

SonicShadow said:

https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/when-is-a-mod...

In my view that blog is bks. It appears to suggest a car must be classified as a rally car to allow modified items. Given the manual clearly states that that rally cars is only an example (it also gives a stretch limo as another one). So there are likely to lots of other examples of modified cars. Why should track day cars not be one?
In the real world it would appear most MOT testers would agree with me......

[mcford]

brman said:

In my view that blog is bks. It appears to suggest a car must be classified as a rally car to allow modified items. Given the manual clearly states that that rally cars is only an example (it also gives a stretch limo as another one). So there are likely to lots of other examples of modified cars. Why should track day cars not be one?
In the real world it would appear most MOT testers would agree with me......

Unfortunately that blog is the official line from the DVSA, as far as I'm concerned I'll take that into account when testing a car over internet here say.

[brman]

mcford said:

Unfortunately that blog is the official line from the DVSA, as far as I'm concerned I'll take that into account when testing a car over internet here say.

well, it is the opinion of someone posted on an official website. That doesn't necessarily mean it is correct. If you have never had bad info from a government department you are lucky

but yes, if you want to be safe then by all means take it into account. I was just trying to point out it is inconsistent and possible wrong and certainly goes against what a lot of MOT testers think.

[mcford]

It's bit more than an opinion from 'somebody', those usually appear in the comments. Clarification has been asked of the DVSA on what constitutes 'Where a vehicle has been extensively modified or converted' and that is the reply from the DVSA.

If I'm ever in a position of having to test a car with an original fit airbag removed, I'll be sure to phone the DVSA before issuing the paperwork and advise the vehicle presenter on the appeals process.

For additional information an airbag light which is illuminated so as to indicate a fault with the SRS system is a fail, an airbag light which doesn't work is an advisory.

[Jimmyarm]

feef said:

It says 'e.g.' so uses a rally car as an example of 'extensively modified', not a definitive rule of what is required to be classed as 'extensively modified'

When I did my tester course we covered this.

A 3 series with bucket seats and a different steering wheel is not extensively modified.

A 3 series with the entire interior stripped out, tow points, bucket seats, harnesses, different wheels, modified exhaust, modified suspension etc etc is.

The Rally car example is just that, it could be a track car, off road race car etc etc. The idea is that the car has been modified 'extensively' for a purpose, not just John who wants to change his steering wheel so his mates at the local industrial estate think he is cool.

It is pretty clear cut tbh.

Edited by Jimmyarm on Friday 9th September 14:23

[loose cannon]

mcford said:

brman said:

In my view that blog is bks. It appears to suggest a car must be classified as a rally car to allow modified items. Given the manual clearly states that that rally cars is only an example (it also gives a stretch limo as another one). So there are likely to lots of other examples of modified cars. Why should track day cars not be one?
In the real world it would appear most MOT testers would agree with me......

Unfortunately that blog is the official line from the DVSA, as far as I'm concerned I'll take that into account when testing a car over internet here say.

All this discussion proves is that there are lots of mot testers that are flouting the rules, rightly or wrongly
Is down to personal opinion, trouble is when you crash your car and for some reason insurance assessor want's to no why there was no airbag fitted or working, then we're do you stand in that situation ?

[Gav147]

loose cannon said:

trouble is when you crash your car and for some reason insurance assessor want's to no why there was no airbag fitted or working, then we're do you stand in that situation ?

Who is to say when it was put on? the person could have swapped it back to the "modded" wheel in the car park of test centre after it passed with the genuine wheel on, same goes with people having to put cats back on for the test, or as you say find a friendly tester who knows what you are going to and lets it slide rather than making you swap things every time.