RE: Pic Of the Week: The ?1.8m 911

RE: Pic Of the Week: The ?1.8m 911

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DUBU

66 posts

205 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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That car is the poster child for everything that is wrong with the car world.

Jalopnik article was pretty much spot on.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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So glad I never bought one of these, back when I saw one for £85k. Second only to my decision not to buy the sensible and affordable 964 RS at £22k. Another great move.

Do the opposite of me and you'll be pretty damn successful.


Yours, muppet.

e28_S38

4 posts

106 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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One man's crazy money is another man's chump change. When you arrive from the States in a Global Express you're playing on a different level. The purchaser of this car also bought the 964 Turbo S Leichtbau and the 964 RS 3.8 at the same event. All 3 were astute buys (these last 2 cars were sold well below estimates). I know that a 964 RS 3.8 just changed hands privately in the States for almost twice what the one at RM just went for.

So as far as value, c'mon really? I suppose we all place 'value' on certain things for an infinitely wide variety of reasons. The buyer new exactly what he was doing. These cars are pedigree'd unobtanium. Produced in only the double digits; conceived, engineered, & sprinkled with all the right factory Porsche racing department magic pixie dust by guys with last names like Barth, Kussmaul, etc.

But yes, unfortunately these things are now only attainable by people who own private aircraft with intercontinental capability. But when have extremely rare lightweight factory hotrod homologation specials been 'affordable' and a good 'value' to us working class stiffs anyway?

DUBU

66 posts

205 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Like I said, this car is a poster child for everything thats wrong with the car world.

If the buyer could afford to drop several million on them at the auction they could of afforded to spend hundreds of thousands instead a couple of years ago acquiring them. I doubt they made their millions overnight.

That is of course if they wanted them a couple of years ago, most likely they only found out that they wanted them when their collection advisor told them that they wanted them whilst wearing golfing trousers at the pebble beach concours D'elegance. Assured such a collection would be the envy of other pebble beachers cost was no object.in fact all the better paying such an amount was a great flaunt of wealth.



Trophy-GTA

101 posts

99 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Really nice classic supercar but not 1.8m nice.

Wills2

22,893 posts

176 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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At £250k a stunning car at £1.8 million, sorry but it can't carry off the look like an old Ferrari can, the extraordinary price has made it look ordinary.


Caddyshack

10,849 posts

207 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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I viewed one of these at £47,000 at marinello in Egham many years ago and did not buy it...why oh why did I not buy it?

J4CKO

41,637 posts

201 months

Friday 9th September 2016
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Wills2 said:
At £250k a stunning car at £1.8 million, sorry but it can't carry off the look like an old Ferrari can, the extraordinary price has made it look ordinary.
Past about 50 grand it ceases to be relevant to 99 percent of petrolheads.

Wills2

22,893 posts

176 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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J4CKO said:
Wills2 said:
At £250k a stunning car at £1.8 million, sorry but it can't carry off the look like an old Ferrari can, the extraordinary price has made it look ordinary.
Past about 50 grand it ceases to be relevant to 99 percent of petrolheads.
That particular car? Or any car? Either way I don't agree as it's more elastic than that, I get why people pay very strong money for 275GTB's etc....but not £1.8 million for a 993, but neither do I think it should be or needs to be 50k to be relevant, 50k is M3 money or half a new 911 so I don't understand your thinking.








Edited by Wills2 on Saturday 10th September 00:38

Gus265

265 posts

134 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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I was at the Revival today and this car came up in conversation. Sheer utter madness. To the extent you don't even have to explain feeling that way. It's a mad but recent Porsche!thatvis still power and riveted big wings. Will it double in value I don't care. Surely it won't though. If it goes up £200k, was it worth parting with £1.8m (!!!) to find out? Surely not. Everyone is being polite with the "fool and his money" analogy - I think some sort of strong expletive and "idiot" would be much more accurate.

CliveM

525 posts

186 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Caddyshack said:
I viewed one of these at £47,000 at marinello in Egham many years ago and did not buy it...why oh why did I not buy it?
Isn't this kind of the point though - if any other asset had changed value to that extent you're so far past the "bigger fool" stage it'd be ridiculous. At £1.8m this is just laughable.
All the arguments about limited numbers etc were equally valid when it was "worth" £47k........

vrooom

3,763 posts

268 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Madness! I would rather have Ruf yellowbird.

n4aat

458 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Dandanfings said:
I have lusted after 993's since they first got released, its really sad they have gotten so expensive frown
This one is just gorgeous in every possible way, but the price is pure insanity... are people that rich that they can afford to just burn money like this, it cant possibly go up any more in value?!

What is going on with the car world?
Low interest rates and a difficulty finding performance in traditional asset classes has led to the Ponzi Scheme that is classic Porsches.

Most people wouldn't have looked twice at a 993 ten years ago. It does amuse that increasing values has made them increasingly more appealing to the eye. But that's just the greed part of the brain kicking in.


Smokey32

359 posts

94 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Adz The Rat said:
Entirely possible. Plenty of people use cars worth more, the classic Ferrari's and the new breed of hypercars. Just look in the supercar spotted thread.
Afraid the new hypercars aren't worth as much as this, and certainly wont be in 2 years time lol.

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

119 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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You've got to be a retard to pay even a fraction of £1.8m

Gixer_fan

290 posts

199 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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Gus265 said:
I was at the Revival today and this car came up in conversation. Sheer utter madness. To the extent you don't even have to explain feeling that way. It's a mad but recent Porsche!thatvis still power and riveted big wings. Will it double in value I don't care. Surely it won't though. If it goes up £200k, was it worth parting with £1.8m (!!!) to find out? Surely not. Everyone is being polite with the "fool and his money" analogy - I think some sort of strong expletive and "idiot" would be much more accurate.
Presumably there was more than one person biding on this.... (just saying)

Paul Dishman

4,714 posts

238 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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I've been told that the sort of mega rich collector who goes for a car like this will pay the money for a car that has the original factory paint. "First paint"

I believe there were two bidders after the car and this ran the price up

GroundEffect

13,844 posts

157 months

Saturday 10th September 2016
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J4CKO said:
Wonder what it's actually like to drive ?
If it's anything like the RUF CTR...terrifying. Butt-clenching when the boost comes on.


M11 MFP

687 posts

194 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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GroundEffect said:
If it's anything like the RUF CTR...terrifying. Butt-clenching when the boost comes on.
It's nowhere near as savage as a CTR1. They were 70 - 100k € only 12 years ago too. As someone has already stated, this is similar to a Pyramid or Ponzi scheme in it's final stages of inflation.

k-ink

9,070 posts

180 months

Sunday 11th September 2016
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The only benefit of it keep on going until the inevitable bust scenario is this... At least only the multi millionaires and billionaires will be burned. I doubt they'll even notice. The further it goes on the safer mere mortals become. In the same way I couldn't care about Mayfair property prices crashing.