Ferrari Mondial

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LordLoveLength

1,926 posts

130 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Calm down - you can still get a ropey LHD one cheaply
http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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If its a fun car to drive then I cannot see the problem. I haven't driven one, so it is pointless me offering an opinion. All classic cars are at laughable prices, so this is no different to anything else.

If you want a good fun yet affordable steer you had better look at 90s Japanese cars before they also rocket upwards. That is about your very last chance before you start getting into cars of a modern era: overly complex and boring to drive.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Panthro said:
Off topic true story - I did my work experience at an aerospace company and there was a pristine Mondial parked in the front most parking space every morning. I found out that it belonged to the security guard who sold his house and moved to a mobile home just so he could fulfil his dream of owning a Ferrari.
I'm sure I remember an episode of the original top gear doing a feature on 2 guys, one owned a rolls, the other a mondial: but neither could afford to run or repair them.

both were stuck in garages, polished beyond belief and they'd just sit in them, dreaming of being able to insure them, put fuel in them and so on.

I think the ferrari man's car, didn't even have an engine: he just dreamed of it getting an engine one day. I guess he just made brum brum noises.

their wives were long suffering !

Garvin

5,171 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Yes, I can attest to the fact that buying a Ferrari is one thing, running it properly over time is quite another - you definitely need deep pockets.

Having said that I have owned my F355 for four years now and spent a considerable amount of time and money fettling and servicing it. I always thought I might be able, when the time comes, to sell it for what I initially paid for it and merely have to 'suffer' the not inconsiderable running costs!

Currently it appears I could flog it tomorrow and recover all (and I mean all) costs incurred to date and have a tidy profit as well - running Ferrari at a profit, who'd have thunk it biggrin

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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I think they've aged rather nicely. Quite a pretty little thing especially compared to some of the gargantuan monstrosities on offer from manufacturers thesedays.


I still love the 400i too. Fond memories of family trips in my Dad's one when we were kids. He wanted a Ferrari..............he had three kids. Made absolute sense. And the NOISE! Oooooooph!

Agent XXX

1,248 posts

106 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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However.........£50k for one?????

Makes this one look sensible!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...

bqf

2,226 posts

171 months

Tuesday 13th September 2016
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Remember twenty years ago when Dino's (246) were cheap as chips, not a proper Ferrari, ugly etc.

...and now they're £400,000.

Tastes change over time, people re-evaluate how 'good' cars are, because what makes them 'good' and 'desirable' changes over time....

With interest rates this low, why not spend it on something you'll enjoy. The Mondial isn't the best car to drive in the world, but it certainly can be fun in 3.4T guise, and it has 4 seats.....

Hugh Jarse

3,502 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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LordLoveLength said:
Calm down - you can still get a ropey LHD one cheaply
http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...
That was not ropey at all IMO and lovely in black


heres one for £24k so quit whining folks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-FERRARI-3-2-MONDIAL...

Dinoboy

2,499 posts

217 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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austinsmirk said:
I'm sure I remember an episode of the original top gear doing a feature on 2 guys, one owned a rolls, the other a mondial: but neither could afford to run or repair them.

both were stuck in garages, polished beyond belief and they'd just sit in them, dreaming of being able to insure them, put fuel in them and so on.

I think the ferrari man's car, didn't even have an engine: he just dreamed of it getting an engine one day. I guess he just made brum brum noises.

their wives were long suffering !
That rings a bell but I'm sure it wasn't Top Gear, it was an hour long programme called Modern life/times or similar. There was a guy who had a lovely Iso Lele in a tiny lock up garage somewhere and didn't have the money to repair it.

ETA for the original poster, I've driven a well maintained Mondial 3.2 a couple of times and it was a fabulous drive.

MitchT

15,863 posts

209 months

V8RX7

26,839 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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I was considering buying one a few years ago when they were around £20k, if you need a 2+2 and want a manual V8 which is a bit different there really isn't much choice, pretty much a late Mondial T or a Maserati 4200

All the desirable cars have doubled in the last 3-5 years I'd still rather have either of the above than a 911

Hugh Jarse

3,502 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th October 2016
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MitchT said:
Ironically Podgson sold it for a 56 plate Opel Corsa.

Downtown Abbey

11 posts

90 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Actually these are aging rather well, and given its age now it's no longer about all out speed and performance, it's about the experience, and these do provide a great experience. The sound of that Ferrari V8 wailing behind you, the feel of the gated shifter slotting into gear, plus you can share that experience with three other lucky people. Looks like these are finally starting to get the recognition they deserve!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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wack said:
cat with a hat said:
It use to irritate me, but since taking my bike test 3-4 years ago, its quite hilarious to spectate.

I simply see cars as a-b transport now as they arent nearly as involving and dare I say enjoyable or value for money compared to bikes.



Edited by cat with a hat on Sunday 11th September 23:15
I agree there's nothing as exciting as riding a bike may-oct but there's nothing worse oct-may

whenever I see a biker on the motorway in the winter I think that looks fun and turn the heater up another notch
Quality heated gear and a crisp sunny winter's day are all you need to make any journey better by motorcycle than car.

stuckmojo

2,978 posts

188 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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I grew up in Italy in the 80's and remember very well that Ferrari started embracing a lot of the FIAT company structure, pay, organization et cetera.

They started cross-pollinating with management, engineering, sharing parts and so on.

The GT4 and Mondial are the prime example of this interaction.

Until recently, it would have been embarrassing to be seen with a GT4 or a Mondial. Bit like saying I have a Porsche and turning up in a 914.

These cars are only vaguely rated now because of the "cavallino" badge, otherwise they are the lowest point for Ferrari as a manufacturer. I remember you could buy these in Italy with little mileage for the price of a new FIAT Uno.

Magazines at the time would not even review them. The very last models were a bit fresher with some substance, but the first were dreadful cars. Both the Mondial and the GT4.


Löyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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wack said:
I agree there's nothing as exciting as riding a bike may-oct but there's nothing worse oct-may

whenever I see a biker on the motorway in the winter I think that looks fun and turn the heater up another notch
Winter isn't exactly time to take a frail old Ferarri out though, is it? It'll be pockmarked with rust before you know it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Wills2 said:
A rising tide lifts all the boats and even the leaky ones stay afloat for a while.

Same with the unloved Dino 308GT4, wheeler dealers bought for less than 8k IIRC on an episode a few years ago, they're now offered at up to 60k.

Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 11th September 22:44
In 2006 Top Gear had an Italian mid engines supercar for £10K challenge.

Hammond bought a ferrari 308GT4, Clarkson a Maserati Merak and May bought a Lamborghini Urraco. This is actually one of my favorite episodes and the cars were basically a joke. Look at what they are worth now!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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stuckmojo said:
I grew up in Italy in the 80's and remember very well that Ferrari started embracing a lot of the FIAT company structure, pay, organization et cetera.

They started cross-pollinating with management, engineering, sharing parts and so on.

The GT4 and Mondial are the prime example of this interaction.
GT4 Introduced in 1973, superseded in 1980. The GT4 was the pioneer of the mid engined V8 format which has continued to this day. Based on the 246 Dino

The GT4 was a groundbreaking model for Ferrari in several ways: it was the first production Ferrari to feature the mid-engined V8 layout that would become the bulk of the company's business in the succeeding decades, and was the first production Ferrari with Bertone (rather than Pininfarina) designed bodywork. Pininfarina was upset by the decision to give cross-town rival Bertone the design, considering all they had done for Ferrari. The styling featured angular lines entirely different from its curvaceous 2-seater brother, the Dino 246, and was controversial at the time. Some journalists compared it to the Bertone-designed Lancia Stratos and Lamborghini Urraco, also penned by Marcello Gandini. From the cockpit the driver sees only the road. It has perfect 360 degree visibility, no blind spots, upright and comfortable seating position, a real trunk, a back seat for soft luggage, and very easy engine access. Enzo Ferrari himself took a major role in its design, even having a mock-up made where he could sit in the car to test different steering, pedals and cockpit seating positioning.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Joey Deacon said:
In 2006 Top Gear had an Italian mid engines supercar for £10K challenge.

Hammond bought a ferrari 308GT4, Clarkson a Maserati Merak and May bought a Lamborghini Urraco. This is actually one of my favorite episodes and the cars were basically a joke. Look at what they are worth now!
Hammond kept his yelllow Ferrari from that show

ian2144

1,665 posts

222 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Austin claimed their Maestro Turbo was faster to 60 than a Ferrari.........it must have been the Mondial, I looked at one about 4 years ago @ £19k the only Ferrari I've been in....a big disappointment 😳