RE: Revo's Mustang 'Ecobeast': PH Videoblog

[J4CKO]

Ultrafunkula said:

The way I see it, the V8 suits the US and the turbo 4 suits the UK. Own either and people will think you like line dancing and touching your sister.

Because, of course, all 318 million Americans practice synchronised Country Dancing and incest

I sort of know what you are getting at, not sure if the UK version will have the same whiff of Cowboy Boots and other Americana like some American cars can have, you know, those blokes from Huddersfield who drive an old Cadillac covered with US flags and insist on being called Tex, I dont think so, its just another Ford with a slight hints of Banjo, after all nobody assumes a 240i driver likes Ooompah Bands, leather shorts and is a former member of Baader Meinhof ?

[SturdyHSV]

irocfan said:

SturdyHSV said:

Dr Interceptor said:

If an ugly hooker was £200, and a gorgeous one was £220, would you really save the £20?

Ah, but for £20 you could have 6 pints at the Revo Bar and think the ugly one was gorgeous

but you'll still live with the knowledge that you could've had the looker and will therefore be feeling a little unfulfilled

Couldn't agree more

irocfan said:

Seriously though if I had to buy an S550 I'd be looking at a V8 and that's it. If others prefer a 4-pot that's ok that's their choice, as far as I'm concerned aural pleasure is a very important part of enjoying cars like these

Yep, same here

[Quickmoose]

Centurion07 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Downside for me is the size of it.

It's PRECISELY (give or take an inch) the same length and width as MK4 Mondeo estate. So not exactly a behemoth.

that's possibly the worst argument I've read....

This sporty 2 door coupe is too big!
Are you mad sir? it's only as big as an old estate car...
Oh...right.... well in THAT case....this sporty 2 door coupe is juuuuussstt right.

wtf?


oh and err..v8 for me too please.

[Centurion07]

Quickmoose said:

Centurion07 said:

big_rob_sydney said:

Downside for me is the size of it.

It's PRECISELY (give or take an inch) the same length and width as MK4 Mondeo estate. So not exactly a behemoth.

that's possibly the worst argument I've read....

This sporty 2 door coupe is too big!
Are you mad sir? it's only as big as an old estate car...
Oh...right.... well in THAT case....this sporty 2 door coupe is juuuuussstt right.

wtf?


oh and err..v8 for me too please.

It was made in the context of the Mustang's size CONTINUALLY being mentioned as if it's somehow as big as an HGV or something.

[Centurion07]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

Its a GT cruiser/bruiser, not a balls-out sportscar. Ive yet to have one experience where Ive thought to myself 'oh no, my car is just too big for this situation, whatever will I do'.

You should've done the NC500 with us!

[underphil]

if it were sold here, I'd (probably) rather have the V6 than the 2.3

Not saying the EcoBoost is bad at all, I just have little interest in 4 cylinders

[AndySheff]

Devil2575 said:

They've been selling Mustangs with 4 and 6 pot motors since the first model rolled of the production line.

No they haven't. They started with a straight 6 and a V8.

[underphil]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

There are quite a few people bolting superchargers to the V6 now in the US, and it makes for a very (surprisingly) decent all-round package.

The V6 didnt come to Europe as theres no place for it. They brought the EB to make the car affordable in high-tax EU markets, and the V8, well because V8.

In many places in the EU the V6 would offer the performance of the EB, with an asking price probably not far off the V8. No point.

it's a bit annoying, real world mpg is the same as ecoboost and it weighs a bit less

[Relax]

This car looked huge when I viewed it in the showroom, I thought it a horrible thing.

[Devil2575]

AndySheff said:

Devil2575 said:

They've been selling Mustangs with 4 and 6 pot motors since the first model rolled of the production line.

No they haven't. They started with a straight 6 and a V8.

Yes but it's not like a 4 pot Mustang is a new thing or that the V8 was the standard engine at the start.

[LuS1fer]

I don't know the figures but, in my experience, it will be easier to insure a standard V8 than a modified car and I imagine you will pay at least as much, if not more, for the 4 banger with mods.

[snuffy]

LuS1fer said:

I don't know the figures but, in my experience, it will be easier to insure a standard V8 than a modified car and I imagine you will pay at least as much, if not more, for the 4 banger with mods.

An excellent point.

[anonymous-user]

I assume Dan put on th "redneck" shirt on purpose to match the "redneck" car yeah???

[AndySheff]

Devil2575 said:

AndySheff said:

Devil2575 said:

They've been selling Mustangs with 4 and 6 pot motors since the first model rolled of the production line.

No they haven't. They started with a straight 6 and a V8.

Yes but it's not like a 4 pot Mustang is a new thing or that the V8 was the standard engine at the start.

No not new, but only used something like 74 to 93. And again with the latest model. And a V8 has always been available

[snuffy]

crosseyedlion said:

If a 4pot turbo can be made to perform as well, be cheaper to run, handle better, stop better, still sound ok (but in a different way) for less money then so be it.

I've owned 4-pot turbos and V8 versions of the same car (Lotus Esprits in my case), and the V8 is the big boy's version. Yes, the 4 cylinder Turbo was great, until I had the V8 (okay, the V8 was also turboed on the Esprit, so I might not be comparing eggs with eggs I'll admit).

[macky17]

Is it bigger than a GTR? People don't seem to complain about the size of that. Let's face it, even with a trick suspension the stang is never going to be an agile, nimble sports car so why worry about the size? A big, fast car has its own charm.

V8 please.

[Relax]

macky17 said:

Is it bigger than a GTR? People don't seem to complain about the size of that. Let's face it, even with a trick suspension the stang is never going to be an agile, nimble sports car so why worry about the size? A big, fast car has its own charm.

V8 please.

Don't know about that, it certainly doesn't carry it's size as well, the big bulbous thang.

[snuffy]

macky17 said:

Is it bigger than a GTR? People don't seem to complain about the size of that. Let's face it, even with a trick suspension the stang is never going to be an agile, nimble sports car so why worry about the size? A big, fast car has its own charm.

V8 please.

I'd say about the same size as a GTR. When you say people don't complain about the GTR size, do you mean they don't complain that it's a big car ?

[pimpchez]

I just don't get the point of people buying these to be ECOnomical.This engine is an evolution of the MPS engine , with VVT added to the exhaust cam ,twin scroll turbo and thicker conrods iirc.In a mps i was averaging 21.5mpg on a mix of urban and fast b roads ,with that car weighing circa 1450kg.By my math a mustang at 1700kg ish with a slightly more economical engine isn't going to better that . The V8 is going to be 3-5mpg worse still ,no one dropping 35k financing a car is poor in my book so why look at the 2.3l at all?

[AndySheff]

pimpchez said:

I just don't get the point of people buying these to be ECOnomical.This engine is an evolution of the MPS engine , with VVT added to the exhaust cam ,twin scroll turbo and thicker conrods iirc.In a mps i was averaging 21.5mpg on a mix of urban and fast b roads ,with that car weighing circa 1450kg.By my math a mustang at 1700kg ish with a slightly more economical engine isn't going to better that . The V8 is going to be 3-5mpg worse still ,no one dropping 35k financing a car is poor in my book so why look at the 2.3l at all?

Was out with my 5.0 last weekend. I didn't hang around but it was all quick A-road and dual-carriageway.
900kms and averaged just over 31mpg.

ETA - I converted the 0,9l per 10km to MPG but not the distance. About 600 miles then on fast A-roads and dual-C's. Mostly A-roads. I would've been content with 20mpg given the pace

Edited by AndySheff on Thursday 15th September 19:51