Cars That Are Ageing Badly

[bobclayton]

bunglesprout said:

Skoda Rapid notchback. Reminds me of a Chrysler Neon.

Pretty sure that's a previous generation Fabia Saloon.
The Rapid:

[Ahonen]

r11co said:

DeanHelix said:

The Chinese don't seem to do original, just amalgamations of other people's designs. Land Wind X7 for most blatant example.

Flying well off-topic now, but the X7 is a wonderful thing. RR Evoque styling with Toyota RAV4 platform and running gear, and totally legal because JLR didn't file their patents properly before showing their concept at a Chinese motor show.

It's also total and utter theft regardless of how you look at it. It wouldn't have mattered what patents had been filed because the Chinese don't care for such trivialities and would have told Land Rover that there was no resemblance at all - just like they did with that stbox X5 copy from a few years ago.

[Ste1987]

ELUSIVEJIM said:

The Mini Coupe.

How was this even allowed to be built.

How has it aged badly, though?

[bunglesprout]

bobclayton said:

bunglesprout said:

Skoda Rapid notchback. Reminds me of a Chrysler Neon.

Pretty sure that's a previous generation Fabia Saloon.
The Rapid:

This is the previous generation Fabia Saloon -



Which is pretty dumpy and just as bad.

[John.Taylor]

For me the Jag XE was old before it was released being a copy of the XF that has been around for some time. I can't see it ageing well at all - no creases or drama to the bodywork, very blancmange.

[Limpet]

To me, this:



has aged nowhere near as well as this:

[Wills2]

JMo22 said:

BMW i8 - saw one the other day from rear 3/4 and just thought it looked incredibly dated. Never understand why car manufacturers think electric/hybrid cars need to look different to petrol cars (usually just for the sake of it), thought Tesla had shown that is the wrong approach.

A dark grey one came past me last month whilst I was driving to Germany, it looked wonderful, low sleek and very modern, there was a white and black one on a stand at the exhibition I was attending and it again looked very modern and gathered quite a crowd.

How you can say it looks dated/has aged badly with a straight face is beyond me.

[McAndy]

DanielSan said:

These have gone from sharp and contemporary looking to really old seemingly over night.

Always looked blobby, overweight, incohesive and melted to me. Quite the opposite of sharp!

[McAndy]

berlintaxi said:

Melted and ugly would be a better description, have not aged well at all, on what planet do they look better than the current one?

They don't, they both look awful!

(Sorry, I'll stop CLS bashing now, particularly since I haven't contributed anything tot he title of this thread yet. But I really dislike them! )

(And the Audi A7.)

[AMGJocky]

sleepera6 said:

lets not forget that it was 2007 and cars didnt have drls then

You sure about that? You must not see many Volvos.

[AMGJocky]

DanielSan said:

These have gone from sharp and contemporary looking to really old seemingly over night.

Completely agree. I'd say they even look ugly.

[r11co]

Ahonen said:

It's also total and utter theft regardless of how you look at it.

It isn't actually, which is why it went ahead despite a flurry of protestation from JLR which they withdrew when it was pointed out that they had not followed a procedure that had been spelled out to them.

Ahonen said:

just like they did with that stbox X5 copy from a few years ago.

What, you mean the Shuanghuan SCEO, the car that looked nothing like an X5, except from that one single angle that was virally copied around the world.



Oh, yeah, I'm SOOOOO thinking that could be mistaken for a BMW.

You could cast the same accusation at Hyundai with the original i30 being a 'copy' of the 1 series FFS.

[jamieduff1981]

Wills2 said:

JMo22 said:

BMW i8 - saw one the other day from rear 3/4 and just thought it looked incredibly dated. Never understand why car manufacturers think electric/hybrid cars need to look different to petrol cars (usually just for the sake of it), thought Tesla had shown that is the wrong approach.

A dark grey one came past me last month whilst I was driving to Germany, it looked wonderful, low sleek and very modern, there was a white and black one on a stand at the exhibition I was attending and it again looked very modern and gathered quite a crowd.

How you can say it looks dated/has aged badly with a straight face is beyond me.

Because it's a mess? Fussy little bits stuck everywhere bearing tenuous relation to each other, randomly placed bits of different colour for no apparent reason.

It's "styled" as only a German can - badly.

[DeanHelix]

r11co said:

Flying well off-topic now, but the X7 is a wonderful thing. RR Evoque styling with Toyota RAV4 platform and running gear, and totally legal because JLR didn't file their patents properly before showing their concept at a Chinese motor show.

"Totally legal" in this sense meaning Jaguar Land Rover embroiled in an ongoing legal row with Land Wind over them blatantly ripping off their registered design & copyright. Even their name!

But yeah, blatant rip-off trading on the massive success of the Evoque styling. And instead of pulling them up on it and helping the whole "China doesn't give a toss about IP" vibe, Beijing courts are actually siding with Land Wind. Madness.

[jamieduff1981]

John.Taylor said:

For me the Jag XE was old before it was released being a copy of the XF that has been around for some time. I can't see it ageing well at all - no creases or drama to the bodywork, very blancmange.

I think you've got this backwards.

A car looking old at launch isn't aged badly, it's "conservative" or "restrained".

All those fussy creases all over the bodywork that you think it's lacking - e.g. Bangle era BMWs are the sort of thing which go straight from flashy & new to old & st as soon as the next model comes out.



I'm not surprised, but continue to be disappointed at the poor comprehension displayed on Pistonheads.

Aging badly. Something that seems to go from new to old at a faster rate than normal.

Nigella Lawson looks a little more mature now than she did in 2001. Gillian McKeith looks like she's 40 years older now than she looked in 2001. THAT is aging badly, not a car looking a bit like the last model, nor a beautiful car designed a while ago.

It's not that difficult to grasp FFS.

[fomb]

jamieduff1981 said:

Wills2 said:

JMo22 said:

BMW i8 - saw one the other day from rear 3/4 and just thought it looked incredibly dated. Never understand why car manufacturers think electric/hybrid cars need to look different to petrol cars (usually just for the sake of it), thought Tesla had shown that is the wrong approach.

A dark grey one came past me last month whilst I was driving to Germany, it looked wonderful, low sleek and very modern, there was a white and black one on a stand at the exhibition I was attending and it again looked very modern and gathered quite a crowd.

How you can say it looks dated/has aged badly with a straight face is beyond me.

Because it's a mess? Fussy little bits stuck everywhere bearing tenuous relation to each other, randomly placed bits of different colour for no apparent reason.

It's "styled" as only a German can - badly.

The styling's fine - it's the fact that it looks like it's giving birth to a 911 that bothers me.

[toon10]

fomb said:

jamieduff1981 said:

Wills2 said:

JMo22 said:

BMW i8 - saw one the other day from rear 3/4 and just thought it looked incredibly dated. Never understand why car manufacturers think electric/hybrid cars need to look different to petrol cars (usually just for the sake of it), thought Tesla had shown that is the wrong approach.

A dark grey one came past me last month whilst I was driving to Germany, it looked wonderful, low sleek and very modern, there was a white and black one on a stand at the exhibition I was attending and it again looked very modern and gathered quite a crowd.

How you can say it looks dated/has aged badly with a straight face is beyond me.

Because it's a mess? Fussy little bits stuck everywhere bearing tenuous relation to each other, randomly placed bits of different colour for no apparent reason.

It's "styled" as only a German can - badly.

The styling's fine - it's the fact that it looks like it's giving birth to a 911 that bothers me.

I've never noticed that before. I now can't unsee it.

[bazza white]

McLarens newer cars are much sharper looking so the MP4 has aged quite quickly.

[OneTun]

[PoopahScoopah]

jamieduff1981 said:

I think you've got this backwards.

A car looking old at launch isn't aged badly, it's "conservative" or "restrained".

All those fussy creases all over the bodywork that you think it's lacking - e.g. Bangle era BMWs are the sort of thing which go straight from flashy & new to old & st as soon as the next model comes out.



I'm not surprised, but continue to be disappointed at the poor comprehension displayed on Pistonheads.

Aging badly. Something that seems to go from new to old at a faster rate than normal.

Nigella Lawson looks a little more mature now than she did in 2001. Gillian McKeith looks like she's 40 years older now than she looked in 2001. THAT is aging badly, not a car looking a bit like the last model, nor a beautiful car designed a while ago.

It's not that difficult to grasp FFS.

Amen. I feel like the last 9 pages I've read have been a total waste of time.