RE: Bentley Bentayga Diesel - official!

[Jim AK]

Vocht said:

For people that don't think it's ugly (such as myself), this is an absolutely fantastic car. £30k cheaper than the W12 and arguably more real world performance, what's there not to love?

I don't care what people say, nobody likes the realistic 15mpg that the W12's gets. This will Bentleys best selling car and for a very good reason. Uber luxury at a more accessible cost.

Edited by Vocht on Wednesday 21st September 09:31

Knowing & working for a few Bentley owners past & present, I have never heard any of them complain about the cost of fuelling one......... Ever!!

[cypriot]

i walk past one every day on my way to work, and I have to say in the flesh it is no where near as ugly as it is in the photos... in the photos it looks like medusa! but in the flesh its surprisingly nice... now I am off to hide behind the sofa...

[Thankyou4calling]

DJM7691 said:

I highly doubt those figures. That works out at a total of £96,000 over three years. Im sure this Bentley will depreciate fairly heavily (although the petrol will depreciate a lot worse) but I expect its residual value after 2 years and 20k miles to be better than approx. £40k!!

I expect more accurate figures would be £1800 on a 9+23, which is still a big number.

I'm sure there are better ones out there but this was the one of the first on Google

£2934 plus VAT for 36 months. Doesn't mention about upfront.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

[George111]

Thankyou4calling said:

DJM7691 said:

I highly doubt those figures. That works out at a total of £96,000 over three years. Im sure this Bentley will depreciate fairly heavily (although the petrol will depreciate a lot worse) but I expect its residual value after 2 years and 20k miles to be better than approx. £40k!!

I expect more accurate figures would be £1800 on a 9+23, which is still a big number.

I'm sure there are better ones out there but this was the one of the first on Google

£2934 plus VAT for 36 months. Doesn't mention about upfront.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

List Price £161,375.00 on the road.
BIK Price / P11D Value £160,200.00.
Includes 4 factory fitted options.
Free Delivery (UK mainland only).

Excess mileage charge: TBA.
Payment profile: Initial rental of £26,406.81 plus VAT followed by 35 monthly rentals of £2,934.09 plus VAT

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

Business may fund, but I suspect the lease will be a personal one.

Just like I do with my business. If I were to actually put it through the books, I'd be c£300/mth worse off.


Struggling to see how the 'negative comments are due to jealously, or a lack of purchasing power' are therefore totally unfounded?

Because many in here could afford one if they really wanted via a lease? They would not, because (probably) they realise that a Range Rover is a better option in 99% of every realistic measure. The final 1% being flaunting one's wealth.

[anonymous-user]

James Junior said:

If that is the case then I would suggest your friends need to consider engaging the services of a better tax adviser...

I'll be sure to pass on your details.

[Ares]

yonex said:

Ares said:

Business may fund, but I suspect the lease will be a personal one.

Just like I do with my business. If I were to actually put it through the books, I'd be c£300/mth worse off.


Struggling to see how the 'negative comments are due to jealously, or a lack of purchasing power' are therefore totally unfounded?

Because many in here could afford one if they really wanted via a lease? They would not, because (probably) they realise that a Range Rover is a better option in 99% of every realistic measure. The final 1% being flaunting one's wealth.

....but I've never said negative comments are due to jealousy? Nor lack of purchasing power?

And if you really think the RR is better at 99% and only thing a Bentayga has above that is flaunting wealth, you've never been in one! I wouldn't have one, but it's a league ahead of a Range Rover. In the same way as a Continental is a league ahead of a BMW 6-Series/Merc SL.

And for what it's worth, if Bentley sell 5500 Petrol powered Bentayga's this year, that will likely outsell petrol powered Range Rovers

[jhonn]

yonex said:

They would not, because (probably) they realise that a Range Rover is a better option in 99% of every realistic measure. The final 1% being flaunting one's wealth.

Can you explain on what basis you think that the RR is a better option 99% of every realistic measure? (Not trying to be contrarian, but apart from better off-road ability I'm struggling to see what aspects the RR is so much better than the Bentley - measurable not subjective)

[anonymous-user]

Ares said:

And for what it's worth, if Bentley sell 5500 Petrol powered Bentayga's this year, that will likely outsell petrol powered Range Rovers

The Hummer H3 sold at an average of 37000 yearly between 2005-2008 and peaked at over 50000. The fact that the Bentayga sells doesn't mean much, apart from there is a market for it. I mean they'll sell 500 or so just to the players in the Premier league

[Ares]

yonex said:

Ares said:

And for what it's worth, if Bentley sell 5500 Petrol powered Bentayga's this year, that will likely outsell petrol powered Range Rovers

The Hummer H3 sold at an average of 37000 yearly between 2005-2008 and peaked at over 50000. The fact that the Bentayga sells doesn't mean much, apart from there is a market for it. I mean they'll sell 500 or so just to the players in the Premier league

Sorry, was there a point to that?

[DJM7691]

George111 said:

Thankyou4calling said:

DJM7691 said:

I highly doubt those figures. That works out at a total of £96,000 over three years. Im sure this Bentley will depreciate fairly heavily (although the petrol will depreciate a lot worse) but I expect its residual value after 2 years and 20k miles to be better than approx. £40k!!

I expect more accurate figures would be £1800 on a 9+23, which is still a big number.

I'm sure there are better ones out there but this was the one of the first on Google

£2934 plus VAT for 36 months. Doesn't mention about upfront.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

List Price £161,375.00 on the road.
BIK Price / P11D Value £160,200.00.
Includes 4 factory fitted options.
Free Delivery (UK mainland only).

Excess mileage charge: TBA.
Payment profile: Initial rental of £26,406.81 plus VAT followed by 35 monthly rentals of £2,934.09 plus VAT

Thanks for posting that, forgive me if I'm wrong though but I thought this article was on a diesel Bentagya with a list price circa £135k?

[berlintaxi]

yonex said:

Ares said:

And for what it's worth, if Bentley sell 5500 Petrol powered Bentayga's this year, that will likely outsell petrol powered Range Rovers

I mean they'll sell 500 or so just to the players in the Premier league

I know, lets trot out the same old stereotypical ste 'cause I ain't got a clue what I am talking about.

[anonymous-user]

berlintaxi said:

I know, lets trot out the same old stereotypical ste 'cause I ain't got a clue what I am talking about.

Get over yourself. If you dont think that's a target audience, or that multiple cars haven't been allocated to Knutsford the area you're deluded.

[Mr Snrub]

Saw a black one today in the wild. Really doesn't look any better in the flesh, with that mesh looking like it's from a 2002 Ripspeed catalogue

[Thankyou4calling]

yonex said:

Get over yourself. If you dont think that's a target audience, or that multiple cars haven't been allocated to Knutsford the area you're deluded.

Of course footballers are a target audience but 500 ? That's somewhat optimistic.

[anonymous-user]

It'll sell. I don't care, it's hideous!

[Hitch]

I'm amazed anyone is surprised at this. Clever of Bentley to mop up £180m by releasing the W12 only first for those early adopters. No doubt the V8 will make it into the range as the 'sporty' variant in 2018 too a la Conti GT.

I'd love one of the big fkers!

[Hitch]

The leases will be high because people will pay loads to jump the queue. I doubt the excess mileage will be 6.2ppm either!

[MJK 24]

George111 said:

Thankyou4calling said:

DJM7691 said:

I highly doubt those figures. That works out at a total of £96,000 over three years. Im sure this Bentley will depreciate fairly heavily (although the petrol will depreciate a lot worse) but I expect its residual value after 2 years and 20k miles to be better than approx. £40k!!

I expect more accurate figures would be £1800 on a 9+23, which is still a big number.

I'm sure there are better ones out there but this was the one of the first on Google

£2934 plus VAT for 36 months. Doesn't mention about upfront.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

List Price £161,375.00 on the road.
BIK Price / P11D Value £160,200.00.
Includes 4 factory fitted options.
Free Delivery (UK mainland only).

Excess mileage charge: TBA.
Payment profile: Initial rental of £26,406.81 plus VAT followed by 35 monthly rentals of £2,934.09 plus VAT

I wonder why they're so expensive to lease? Bentley were advertising the V8 Conti lease at GFOS on their stand. £26,000 down and £990 a month for 36 months.

I have no idea what the list price of the car was though.

[giveablondeabone]

Purely from an engineering perspective.............................


664 lb ft from 1000rpm

That's grunt