RE: Bentley Bentayga Diesel - official!

RE: Bentley Bentayga Diesel - official!

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rassi

2,453 posts

251 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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This monstrosity makes the pudgy SQ7 look a work of art

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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giveablondeabone said:
Purely from an engineering perspective.............................


664 lb ft from 1000rpm smokin

That's grunt
That is impressive, I bet overtaking is a right laugh!

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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MDMA . said:
GranCab said:
MDMA . said:
GranCab said:
MDMA . said:
can see a few of the DFS type sofa company bosses buying these. 50 plus, died hair, Marbella tan and some overpriced sparkly watch.
About 5 stereotypes too many in that quote ...
are you 4 out of 5 ?
0 out of 5

I suggest your post was motivated by envy.
I don't suffer from envy.

I suggest your post was motivated by me not being far off smile
Learn to read ... 0 out of 5 = 0 out of 5

You drive crappy old Subarus .... I own and drive a Maserati etc etc ...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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GranCab said:
Learn to read ... 0 out of 5 = 0 out of 5

You drive crappy old Subarus .... I own and drive a Maserati etc etc ...
Here we go again. It's just tragic. This is what a Bentley thread delivers biggrin

Are you really standing on ceremony over a Maserati, is that some pinnacle of car ownership? In short, nobody cares. Stop being a dick.

jwwbowe

577 posts

172 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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And the most hated PHer award goes to....

GranCab:

"You drive crappy old Subarus .... I own and drive a Maserati etc etc ..."

Awkward, I actually cringed reading that, did he/she really type that in seriousness or did David Brent become a PH member 55 months ago?!

As for the topic, the Bentley diesel, I do get there is a market for it (never a more apt example of money doesn't buy taste, a full fat RR is more practical, superior off road and far less pretentious) and I get it makes Bentley enough money to give the world traditional Bentleys we all love, for which I think all PHers are thankful for, but it's still hideous. At least go for the W12 to crush peasants with, they'll feel short changed by being run over by a oil burner!

babatunde

736 posts

190 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Flashback, quite honestly I get why VW do it, but....... think of the children..... why must it be so Fugly

dank

1,154 posts

252 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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actually quite like these, there's one driving around my neck of the woods, in the same colour, and it looks rather splendid.

easytiger123

2,595 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Some entertaining comments on here! Well, having owned a Bentayga for about 3 months now I'll give you some early-ish impressions.

Let's get this out the way first. It's no beauty. I specced mine in Midnight Emerald (a very dark green) with saddle and black interior and without any of the extra external mesh over the front of it. I think (obviously) it looks much better in darker colours and without the bling but even then the looks aren't fantastic especially from front on, but it certainly isn't hideous. I also think the 21" wheels look better than the 22" ones that most Bentaygas seem to have.

Different story altogether once you climb in. The interior is very well designed and beautifully put together. Whereas for example, my former Ghost did feel in some respects like a very nice BMW 7 Series, the Bentayga is a completely different proposition to the Q7. The seats are incredibly comfortable, it comes with (or can be specced with) every toy you could possibly want and the Naim sound system is stunning.

To drive. Well, in a word fast. In 3 words very fking fast. It corners like nothing of that ride height should be able to and is supremely comfortable for long trips across all types of road. I think in terms of the way it rides over rougher surfaces that it doesn't feel quite as insulated from the road as I'd like but perhaps I just need to play with the multitude of different settings a bit more. I have left mine in 'Bentley' mode which is somewhere between Comfort and Sport I think.

So far, so good. What I have to say though is that it isn't a Range Rover. It doesn't give you that imperious ride height and view through the big windscreen or (and very noticeably) does it give you those big side windows that drop down very low. The Bentayga's are much more car-like in that respect and it doesn't feel like you're wafting your living room along the M4 if you see what I mean. Much as I like the Bentayga I don't love it and it feels more like a jacked-up Conti GT with a better interior than a Range Rover rival.

In summary, comments about tarted up X5 or Q7 on steroids are well wide of the mark. It is on a different planet to those vehicles as it should be for what it costs. I would have bought a petrol Range Rover instead and have owned a couple in the past but their problem is that the new top of the line SVR (I think) models are pushing 150 grand and represent poor value over the 'basic' petrol version. Felt like they'd tacked on a few whirled aluminium nobs and dials to try and move it upmarket to compete with the Bentley and failed. They didn't need to and shouldn't have bothered. Once they've facelifted it and updated the touch screen etc, then I'll almost certainly sell the Bentley to buy one. Until then, I'll try and enjoy the hate in the Bentayga!

PS, as for the diesel...no thanks!

MDMA .

8,900 posts

101 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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GranCab said:
Learn to read ... 0 out of 5 = 0 out of 5

You drive crappy old Subarus .... I own and drive a Maserati etc etc ...
I am so happy for you. just checked your profile and the " about me " section - you've missed ( powerfully built ) from the company director part.

what a first class prick you are !



irocfan

40,487 posts

190 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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easytiger123 said:
Some entertaining comments on here! Well, having owned a Bentayga for about 3 months now I'll give you some early-ish impressions.

Let's get this out the way first. It's no beauty. I specced mine in Midnight Emerald (a very dark green) with saddle and black interior and without any of the extra external mesh over the front of it. I think (obviously) it looks much better in darker colours and without the bling but even then the looks aren't fantastic especially from front on, but it certainly isn't hideous. I also think the 21" wheels look better than the 22" ones that most Bentaygas seem to have.

Different story altogether once you climb in. The interior is very well designed and beautifully put together. Whereas for example, my former Ghost did feel in some respects like a very nice BMW 7 Series, the Bentayga is a completely different proposition to the Q7. The seats are incredibly comfortable, it comes with (or can be specced with) every toy you could possibly want and the Naim sound system is stunning.

To drive. Well, in a word fast. In 3 words very fking fast. It corners like nothing of that ride height should be able to and is supremely comfortable for long trips across all types of road. I think in terms of the way it rides over rougher surfaces that it doesn't feel quite as insulated from the road as I'd like but perhaps I just need to play with the multitude of different settings a bit more. I have left mine in 'Bentley' mode which is somewhere between Comfort and Sport I think.

So far, so good. What I have to say though is that it isn't a Range Rover. It doesn't give you that imperious ride height and view through the big windscreen or (and very noticeably) does it give you those big side windows that drop down very low. The Bentayga's are much more car-like in that respect and it doesn't feel like you're wafting your living room along the M4 if you see what I mean. Much as I like the Bentayga I don't love it and it feels more like a jacked-up Conti GT with a better interior than a Range Rover rival.

In summary, comments about tarted up X5 or Q7 on steroids are well wide of the mark. It is on a different planet to those vehicles as it should be for what it costs. I would have bought a petrol Range Rover instead and have owned a couple in the past but their problem is that the new top of the line SVR (I think) models are pushing 150 grand and represent poor value over the 'basic' petrol version. Felt like they'd tacked on a few whirled aluminium nobs and dials to try and move it upmarket to compete with the Bentley and failed. They didn't need to and shouldn't have bothered. Once they've facelifted it and updated the touch screen etc, then I'll almost certainly sell the Bentley to buy one. Until then, I'll try and enjoy the hate in the Bentayga!

PS, as for the diesel...no thanks!
nice review chap - I'll admit that all my dislike is directed at the exterior, from what I've seen of the interior I'm blown away. Saddle and black sounds like an amazing colour combo and is one I really can't understand why more manufacturers don't offer (the emerald sounds great too!)

458man

2,714 posts

207 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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easytiger123 said:
Some entertaining comments on here! Well, having owned a Bentayga for about 3 months now I'll give you some early-ish impressions.

Let's get this out the way first. It's no beauty. I specced mine in Midnight Emerald (a very dark green) with saddle and black interior and without any of the extra external mesh over the front of it. I think (obviously) it looks much better in darker colours and without the bling but even then the looks aren't fantastic especially from front on, but it certainly isn't hideous. I also think the 21" wheels look better than the 22" ones that most Bentaygas seem to have.

Different story altogether once you climb in. The interior is very well designed and beautifully put together. Whereas for example, my former Ghost did feel in some respects like a very nice BMW 7 Series, the Bentayga is a completely different proposition to the Q7. The seats are incredibly comfortable, it comes with (or can be specced with) every toy you could possibly want and the Naim sound system is stunning.

To drive. Well, in a word fast. In 3 words very fking fast. It corners like nothing of that ride height should be able to and is supremely comfortable for long trips across all types of road. I think in terms of the way it rides over rougher surfaces that it doesn't feel quite as insulated from the road as I'd like but perhaps I just need to play with the multitude of different settings a bit more. I have left mine in 'Bentley' mode which is somewhere between Comfort and Sport I think.

So far, so good. What I have to say though is that it isn't a Range Rover. It doesn't give you that imperious ride height and view through the big windscreen or (and very noticeably) does it give you those big side windows that drop down very low. The Bentayga's are much more car-like in that respect and it doesn't feel like you're wafting your living room along the M4 if you see what I mean. Much as I like the Bentayga I don't love it and it feels more like a jacked-up Conti GT with a better interior than a Range Rover rival.

In summary, comments about tarted up X5 or Q7 on steroids are well wide of the mark. It is on a different planet to those vehicles as it should be for what it costs. I would have bought a petrol Range Rover instead and have owned a couple in the past but their problem is that the new top of the line SVR (I think) models are pushing 150 grand and represent poor value over the 'basic' petrol version. Felt like they'd tacked on a few whirled aluminium nobs and dials to try and move it upmarket to compete with the Bentley and failed. They didn't need to and shouldn't have bothered. Once they've facelifted it and updated the touch screen etc, then I'll almost certainly sell the Bentley to buy one. Until then, I'll try and enjoy the hate in the Bentayga!

PS, as for the diesel...no thanks!
Agree with you 100%. I spent 2 hours with one and completely echo your comments. I was also advised that Bentley drive mode is the best mix of driving dynamics. It's funny how the majority on here jump up and compare it to a Q7, X5, Cayenne etc but in reality it is bloody far from it. What you thinking of getting next the Lambo Urus biggrin ?

easytiger123

2,595 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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458man said:
Agree with you 100%. I spent 2 hours with one and completely echo your comments. I was also advised that Bentley drive mode is the best mix of driving dynamics. It's funny how the majority on here jump up and compare it to a Q7, X5, Cayenne etc but in reality it is bloody far from it. What you thinking of getting next the Lambo Urus biggrin ?
I am going to buy a Urus (though I suspect it'll be a bit of a wait)!! Slightly disappointed that it'll be a V8 but given I've always hankered after an LM002, I'm def going to get the Urus when it appears. If it's bonkers and pointless, count me in.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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easytiger123 said:
Some entertaining comments on here! Well, having owned a Bentayga for about 3 months now I'll give you some early-ish impressions.

Let's get this out the way first. It's no beauty. I specced mine in Midnight Emerald (a very dark green) with saddle and black interior and without any of the extra external mesh over the front of it. I think (obviously) it looks much better in darker colours and without the bling but even then the looks aren't fantastic especially from front on, but it certainly isn't hideous. I also think the 21" wheels look better than the 22" ones that most Bentaygas seem to have.

Different story altogether once you climb in. The interior is very well designed and beautifully put together. Whereas for example, my former Ghost did feel in some respects like a very nice BMW 7 Series, the Bentayga is a completely different proposition to the Q7. The seats are incredibly comfortable, it comes with (or can be specced with) every toy you could possibly want and the Naim sound system is stunning.

To drive. Well, in a word fast. In 3 words very fking fast. It corners like nothing of that ride height should be able to and is supremely comfortable for long trips across all types of road. I think in terms of the way it rides over rougher surfaces that it doesn't feel quite as insulated from the road as I'd like but perhaps I just need to play with the multitude of different settings a bit more. I have left mine in 'Bentley' mode which is somewhere between Comfort and Sport I think.

So far, so good. What I have to say though is that it isn't a Range Rover. It doesn't give you that imperious ride height and view through the big windscreen or (and very noticeably) does it give you those big side windows that drop down very low. The Bentayga's are much more car-like in that respect and it doesn't feel like you're wafting your living room along the M4 if you see what I mean. Much as I like the Bentayga I don't love it and it feels more like a jacked-up Conti GT with a better interior than a Range Rover rival.

In summary, comments about tarted up X5 or Q7 on steroids are well wide of the mark. It is on a different planet to those vehicles as it should be for what it costs. I would have bought a petrol Range Rover instead and have owned a couple in the past but their problem is that the new top of the line SVR (I think) models are pushing 150 grand and represent poor value over the 'basic' petrol version. Felt like they'd tacked on a few whirled aluminium nobs and dials to try and move it upmarket to compete with the Bentley and failed. They didn't need to and shouldn't have bothered. Once they've facelifted it and updated the touch screen etc, then I'll almost certainly sell the Bentley to buy one. Until then, I'll try and enjoy the hate in the Bentayga!

PS, as for the diesel...no thanks!
Hope you don't mind me asking but what made you choose one of these over a similarly-priced saloon? If I didn't need / want the off-road ability, I'd much rather have a Mulsanne...the only downside I can think of is that the saloon boot's not as practical.

easytiger123

2,595 posts

209 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Clivey said:
Hope you don't mind me asking but what made you choose one of these over a similarly-priced saloon? If I didn't need / want the off-road ability, I'd much rather have a Mulsanne...the only downside I can think of is that the saloon boot's not as practical.
Don't mind at all. Had a couple of Mulsannes as loaners from Jack Barclay at various points. Lovely cars but didn't like them. They are incredibly long and I found them just a bit dull. Neither of them were Speed models so maybe that would have made a difference. As for other saloons at that price point, had a Ghost which was very quick but had a lot of fairly crappy bits of trim that kept falling off. Phantom is lovely but getting a bit long in the tooth and significantly more money. Ultimately many saloons at that price are I think more for being driven in whilst sitting in the back rather than driving it yourself, plus (and I say this without any shame) I do like the more commanding driving position of SUVs. Rarely take them off road to be honest so that aspect isn't really a factor and neither is boot size. Probably makes me a fairly stereotypical Bentayga buyer minus my inability to play football and lack of a permatan apparently!

Löyly

17,996 posts

159 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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sidesauce said:
he fact you roll out this tired line shows you know nothing about what you speak. Change the record mate, hiphop has moved on since the 90s.
Hip Hop in the early 90's was about being poor. Then it became commercially successful and morphed into a parody of itself that appealed to idiots. But since you've already been shown up on this, I suppose you knew that.

KTF

9,806 posts

150 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Clivey said:
Hope you don't mind me asking but what made you choose one of these over a similarly-priced saloon? If I didn't need / want the off-road ability, I'd much rather have a Mulsanne...the only downside I can think of is that the saloon boot's not as practical.
If I could afford one, I would buy it over a saloon so I could sit up high and lord it over the proles.



MDL111

6,954 posts

177 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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J4CKO said:
I dont get it,

"I am going to spend 150 grand on a honking great luxury Bentley SUV, but buy a diesel engined one to save a few quid on fuel, me being thrifty and all"

Its like spotting Richard Branson doing his shopping in Lidl or Madonna wandering round Primark.

Diesels are for people pretending to be wealthy, i.e. those well off but still have to work to a budget but I thought Bentleys are for actual, properly wealthy people for who fuel cost is just not an issue ?

I cant see any other advantage,

Power delivery, surely the W12 600 odd bhp lump does anything a diesel lump can or anyone can reasonably need ?

Sound, am sure it will sound better than a 106 diesel but there should be no clatter or hint of tight arse diesel noise, it may sound good, for a diesel.

Range, ok, it may go a bit further, all the way to Monaco on one tank, but would you clatter up to your hotel in a diesel ?

Resale, are Bentley owners really worried about a minor difference in resale ?

Am sure it will sell, but cant see who would buy it, what is the thought process where you end up at an 150 grand diesel SUV, whats next a Gulfstream with an Ryanair sourced interior ?


Is it for some £999 a month lease special ?
It is not always about being able to afford the petrol, stoppiing at a petrol station every 300km can be annoying / costs quite a bit of time.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

124 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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MDL111 said:
It is not always about being able to afford the petrol, stoppiing at a petrol station every 300km can be annoying / costs quite a bit of time.
Oh please stop it!!

I've been fortunate enough to drive a Bentley Arnage, a GTC & a Range Rover to various places in the South of France & Spain over the years & never once has stopping for fuel been an issue either for me, if on my own, or going with the 'Powerfully built' one.

FYI. The tanks on the Bentley's & the Range Rover were all 20 gallons, give or take, & we would stop for fuel every 4 hours.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Jim AK said:
Oh please stop it!!

I've been fortunate enough to drive a Bentley Arnage, a GTC & a Range Rover to various places in the South of France & Spain over the years & never once has stopping for fuel been an issue either for me, if on my own, or going with the 'Powerfully built' one.

FYI. The tanks on the Bentley's & the Range Rover were all 20 gallons, give or take, & we would stop for fuel every 4 hours.
Fair enough if you are genuinely happy spending that much time queing at petrol stations, pumping petrol, queuing to pay. But it's a matter of taste. I'm not, I hate doing that, and every car I've had with short range has infuriated me. If I had to refuel in anything except an aeroplane every four hours I think I'd shoot myself. If a car won't do 400 miles, 500 if stretched, I'm not really interested in owning it. Turning a 5 minute toilet stop into a 15 minute fuel stop, or having to choose my eating stops for coincidence with petrol stations isn't a game I'm prepared to play.



Edited by Lowtimer on Thursday 22 September 22:00

tenfour

26,140 posts

214 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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KTF said:
If I could afford one, I would buy it over a saloon so I could sit up high and lord it over the proles.
It's not that high at all (no more than an X5). I looked down on one today as I waited to fill up with fuel.