RE: Bentley Bentayga Diesel - official!
Discussion
Lowtimer said:
Fair enough if you are genuinely happy spending that much time queing at petrol stations, pumping petrol, queuing to pay. But it's a matter of taste. I'm not, I hate doing that, and every car I've had with short range has infuriated me. If I had to refuel in anything except an aeroplane every four hours I think I'd shoot myself. If a car won't do 400 miles, 500 if stretched, I'm not really interested in owning it. Turning a 5 minute toilet stop into a 15 minute fuel stop, or having to choose my eating stops for coincidence with petrol stations isn't a game I'm prepared to play.
So you would happily own a Diesel Bentley just for that?Edited by Lowtimer on Thursday 22 September 22:00
I dont think ive spent 15 minutes filling up & paying for my fuel either. When you stop for fuel in a foreign country are they using a stirrup pump or something? Most french service areas i`ve used seem to have just a paystation for fuel & not a Supermarket like we get here, so nobody doing their weekly food shop!
Doesn't anyone else find it sad that nearly every 'premium' car builder has decided that they simply must try and fill every possible market sector, at the expense of the brand heritage? Does Bentley need to make this monstrosity due to falling sales of its other cars? No. Does Maserati need the Kubang? No. Does Rolls Royce need is upcoming whatever? No. Surely, premium means that it's better and more exclusive than the mainstream?
Jim AK said:
MDL111 said:
It is not always about being able to afford the petrol, stoppiing at a petrol station every 300km can be annoying / costs quite a bit of time.
Oh please stop it!!I've been fortunate enough to drive a Bentley Arnage, a GTC & a Range Rover to various places in the South of France & Spain over the years & never once has stopping for fuel been an issue either for me, if on my own, or going with the 'Powerfully built' one.
FYI. The tanks on the Bentley's & the Range Rover were all 20 gallons, give or take, & we would stop for fuel every 4 hours.
Sorry for typos
KTF said:
tenfour said:
KTF said:
If I could afford one, I would buy it over a saloon so I could sit up high and lord it over the proles.
It's not that high at all (no more than an X5). I looked down on one today as I waited to fill up with fuel.
Thankyou4calling said:
yonex said:
Get over yourself. If you dont think that's a target audience, or that multiple cars haven't been allocated to Knutsford the area you're deluded.
Of course footballers are a target audience but 500 ? That's somewhat optimistic.
Has to be said, despite living in the middle of the cheshire footballer belt, i've not seen a single footballer in one.
easytiger123 said:
Don't mind at all. Had a couple of Mulsannes as loaners from Jack Barclay at various points. Lovely cars but didn't like them. They are incredibly long and I found them just a bit dull.
I must admit, although I've never driven one I can't imagine that they're as rewarding or satisfying to drive as performance saloon cars from more mainstream manufacturers. I also prefer to drive, rather than be driven though and I'm certain that's the key thing.easytiger123 said:
...had a Ghost which was very quick but had a lot of fairly crappy bits of trim that kept falling off.
Well that's not what you should expect to put-up with from a new Rolls Royce that uses modern production methods!easytiger123 said:
Ultimately many saloons at that price are I think more for being driven in whilst sitting in the back rather than driving it yourself
This is true. - The market for driver's cars seems to finish at the S8 / S63 kind of level, which I can understand TBH as anything larger would harldly be "sporty".easytiger123 said:
...plus (and I say this without any shame) I do like the more commanding driving position of SUVs. Rarely take them off road to be honest so that aspect isn't really a factor and neither is boot size. Probably makes me a fairly stereotypical Bentayga buyer minus my inability to play football and lack of a permatan apparently!
I also like the driving position / comfort but feel that owning a 4x4 and not using it away from the tarmac is a bit like owning a supercar to dawdle around London, never taking it somewhere you can use it's performance. I find off-road driving easily as rewarding as trackdays etc. and challenge anyone who's never tried it to give it a proper go (wealthy middle easteners do; it's not just for 40-something blokes from Northern mining towns that like dressing-up in camo!). If I could afford a new Range Rover SV Autobiography, I'd horrify the manicured salespeople and other owners by actually loading it up and seeing what it can do. I quite fancy a trip over the Pyrenees in one to start with... 
Jim AK said:
MDL111 said:
It is not always about being able to afford the petrol, stoppiing at a petrol station every 300km can be annoying / costs quite a bit of time.
Oh please stop it!!I've been fortunate enough to drive a Bentley Arnage, a GTC & a Range Rover to various places in the South of France & Spain over the years & never once has stopping for fuel been an issue either for me, if on my own, or going with the 'Powerfully built' one.
FYI. The tanks on the Bentley's & the Range Rover were all 20 gallons, give or take, & we would stop for fuel every 4 hours.
R400TVR said:
Doesn't anyone else find it sad that nearly every 'premium' car builder has decided that they simply must try and fill every possible market sector, at the expense of the brand heritage? Does Bentley need to make this monstrosity due to falling sales of its other cars? No. Does Maserati need the Kubang? No. Does Rolls Royce need is upcoming whatever? No. Surely, premium means that it's better and more exclusive than the mainstream?
Every premium car builder is a business. End of story.Ares said:
... i've not seen a single footballer in one.
I'm no footballer, but even if I was and had wads of disposable cash I'm not sure that the Bentley would appeal - no doubting that it's a very impressive car and makes a bold statement about your financial situation, however to my eyes it's image is a bit too, 'successful and mature'. I can't see many young people buying it. The reason that this doesn't affect the RR (as much) is that it is seen as a genuinely multi-faceted product - it has the credibility of being multi-purpose and truly functional - it's far less 'one-dimensional' than the Bentley.
Well, that's my theorising anyway - I may be way-off - it would be interesting to see a profile of the owners and prospective buyers as sales go on.
jhonn said:
AH33 said:
Still going to be bought exclusively by absolute a
holes though.
That's a crap generalisation (and you know it). holes though.Have a read of the thread - there's an owner posted his ownership and driving experiences - he certainly didn't come across as an 'a
hole'.
Ares said:
But for some it is. The guys I know that have the Bentayga struggle to see more than 200 miles per tank. Any decent run and they have to stop for fuel, every owner I know (three) has mentioned in.
Christ!! That isn't too good, does it have a smaller tank than a GTC/Spur then?If it's the 20 gallon tank that's in those then that's 10mpg, must be mostly town work surely? I see about 12 average in the W12 GTC & 15 from the V8 Spur for town/A & B road stuff. Single figures for both if in Central London.
Disregarding the headline MPG figure of the diesel, attained in false circumstances, I'd think mid to late 20's on a run & not that much difference between petrol & diesel in town if my experience of V6 petrol v diesel Mercs is anything to go by.
I wonder what MPG of a V10 Phaeton v a V10 Touraeg. V8 diesel Range Rover isn't overly economical either.
Still wouldn't want the DERV Bentley
& I know my leader certainly wouldn't....... Might spill the stuff on his Gucci loafers!!FN2TypeR said:
Diesel or petrol, it is still totally God awful to look at in my eyes and even if I were appallingly rich and able to afford anything I ever wanted I seriously could not bring myself to spend such a sum of money on a car that looks sadder than a sad thing on the day free sadness was given out.
A-fking-bysmal.
I was going to post a response, but I see someone has beaten me to it! A-f
king-bysmal.M.
Was pondering it, the diesel seems to make more sense now I have got used to it, I dont think people tend to view diesel as inferior by and large, like us petrolheads do, I guess it comes down to, does it go if you put your foot down, is the interior the same, is it still suitably upmarket, I guess the noise will be fairly subdued via sound deadening and the engine well isolated and the not having to stop thing is probably a thing if it only does 200 miles to a tank.
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