RE: Shed of the Week: Mini Cooper

RE: Shed of the Week: Mini Cooper

Friday 23rd September 2016

Shed of the Week: Mini Cooper

A Shed debut for the 21st century Mini, though it is one with 185,000 miles...



Gird your loins and indeed loin your girds as we proudly announce another first in Shed history: the debut appearance of the new MINI in our weakly (sic) showcase of road legal motors for under a thousand quid.

Sadly, it's not a Mini but a MINI, so it's a brand rather than an icon. It's not a first-year 2001 car, which is a pity as there's some value starting to accrue on those. But if you just want a car to trundle around in rather than keep under wraps, avoiding the '01 cars is no bad thing as Shed remembers them having some odd foibles, like headlights that switched themselves on and off depending on the angle of the steering. Plus, you do get a little faux-history in the early red and white colour scheme, complete with pepperpot wheels.

The classic Mini spec!
The classic Mini spec!
These first Mini Coopers had no superchargers and therefore not much in the way of performance. As a result the Cooper has been seen by many as the least attractive model in the range and generally less desirable than the basic (but at least honestly so) Mini One. A good lesson there for greedy marketeers who think it's clever to stretch a brand to breaking point.

Up until 2006 or so the engines for these cars were made in Brazil, the result of a joint venture between Chrysler and BMW. In normally aspirated 115hp form the 1.6 motor was dependable rather than inspiring, but at least it wasn't the disastrously wobbly K-Series. You didn't get the Getrag 5-speed of the slightly later S, either, but a Rover-designed six-speed 'Midlands' 'box. Essentially, Brazilian engines apart, Mini owners were buying into a British car that had been built to German standards.

All Minis, Coopers included, came with a nice selling point of fundamentally good handling. In light of our Shed's mileage, you might wonder about that, but the service history is claimed to be full so with any luck the original suspension will have had at least some of its components replaced by now.

When it's in good order, the chassis - a sweet (and at the time expensive) setup of MacPherson struts and anti-roll bar at the front and multi-link Z-axle at the rear - is definitely one of the Mini's strong points. The interior design, a fairly successful pastiche of the original Mini's big central speedo look, was also groundbreaking.

We've no pics of this car's interior, unfortunately, so we don't know which of the various options packs the one and only owner signed up for, but we do know it has half-leather seats. That's good, but Mini front seats do tend to take a beating, mainly because there's so little room in the back. The tip-up mechanisms wear out too.

Vibration over time will give rise to many of the Mini's other problems. Dedicated Shedmen are taught from birth to ignore the often mendacious bleatings of sensors, but in the Mini's case any warnings - either electronic or audible - need to be heeded. Rattly dashes, flaky electrics, airbag warnings, dicky speedos and lying fuel gauges can all be precursors to deeper troubles.

Get a good look, because that's your last pic
Get a good look, because that's your last pic
That posh suspension looked great at the design stage, and it delivered on the road too, but have a good look at the rear wishbones on this high-miler and watch out for any pulling to one side as that could be indicative of misaligned front turrets - a costly fix.

Noises from the Rover gearbox and from the power steering are very common. Steering column bearings wear out too, and you can also be tripped up by the central locking system or by shorting-out wiring on the ABS pump. None of these are cheap to mend.

The value of keeping this car within the Mini service network is debatable, given the high labour charges that were (and still are) a convenient by-product of something launched as a 'premium' vehicle. You may be lucky with this car and benefit from the solitary owner's maintenance work, in which case you'll be able to mooch around town with all the Tarquins and Henriettas having spent a fraction of the money they'll have splashed out on their Minis. The fact that the non-functioning window and air-con haven't been sorted is a bit of a chin-stroker, but if things get sticky a quick mop and some back-to-black on the plastic bits should have you out of there without too much financial angst.

Here's the ad.

This is a one owner full service history car that has been driven mainly on motorways hence little wear (185k Miles) red with white roof and wheels this really clean car drives well. Lots of options like half leather air con elec Windows remote locking and much more. Electric window on drivers side not working (motor works as you can hear but may have come off rail) air con will need re gassing and that's it's. Otherwise it goes well. A very cheap car so no offers or timewasters please. Long mot.


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Arsecati

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2,309 posts

117 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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My girlfriend has had hers since new in 03. Covered nearly 120k miles in that time and the first bit of work (apart from regular, meticulous servicing) I've had to do on it was change the clutch on it last week (the release bearing exploded!). That's the first time she's never been able to drive it in 13 years! An absolute pig of a job, as everything above and below has to come out (from battery box to entire subframe!), but when BMW would have wanted nearly €1400 to change it over here in Dublin, it does put a fairly big grin on my face that I did the entire job for under €200 in parts - and that was including replacing the two outer and inner balljoints also (may as well seeing as they're cheap and I had the whole subframe out!!).

Don't know about the air-con, but the electric window could be fixed by a good bang on the door above the speaker - a common fault and well known solution! wink

She's been on about changing 'Bob' for YEARS now, and we've test-driven many a replacement. But she only needs the car for weekends and she absolutely loves him, so after 13 years (and a new clutch!), he's staying put for another while! Oh, and she has the Chili Pack with the sports suspension: it may have bugger all power, but handles like a loon! wink

5 speed gearbox though - don't know where the 6 speed comes from? :/

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I like the spec - pepper pot wheels are so much nicer than the 17" wheels, better for ride & handling.

But you'll have to get the electric window sorted - as MINIs have frameless doors & you need the window to drop a little to open the door. It's not a cheap fix either.

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Blimey ! Shed is up early this morning ... and no mention of Mrs Shed - has she moved out into a bedsit? Has she finally filed for divorce on the grounds of mental cruelty?

We need to know ... smile

TNH

559 posts

147 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I find this much more appealing that I think I should.

Good shed - different to a lot of the rubbish we've had recently.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Imolas are a nice wheel for them

parabolica

6,715 posts

184 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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TNH said:
I find this much more appealing that I think I should.

Good shed - different to a lot of the rubbish we've had recently.
Same here; they appear to be relatively simple and a nice package when cared for; although they were the car of choice for the yoof whilst I was at Uni. I was considering one as a stop-gap between my last and present cars - colleague at work had an 04 Cooper which needed a (fair) bit of TLC and was looking to get rid. Alas I ended up buying my present car much sooner than I thought so never got the chance.

JTSmith

104 posts

91 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Tempting, but I know a few people who've had nothing but headaches with them...

That said, at 189k miles, anything major probably should have gone wrong by now!

Dave Hedgehog

14,550 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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mums got a 52, owned from new with 20k miles on it smile

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Of course aircon just needs a regas, of course it has just been driven on motorways. Of course it was a part-ex we paid about £100 for...

Maxus

953 posts

181 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Aircon needs re-gassing indeed!

I really like these, we had one in 2003. Good fun to drive and went along OK. Ours was 12 months old so still fairly rattle free. Would be interested to see how they fair after 10 years, rattles would drive me mad. Have seriously considered a Cooper S on many occasions.

We paid £12.5k, ran it for 12 months, then sold it for £12.3k to a BMW dealer (not as a trade in). They did hold their money back then.

emicen

8,581 posts

218 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Please, tell me more about these "misaligned turrets" and their costly fix.

2/10, even for a shed article, that's littered with errors.

tomcrowther

105 posts

133 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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This is poor shed motoring, 1/5 would not recommend to a friend.

ambuletz

10,734 posts

181 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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i always liked those tele dial wheels on the mk1 and mk2 MINI. is that the proper name for them? (the allows that is)

marshall100

1,124 posts

201 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Interesting, we had a number of these in when I worked for a windscreen firm that shall remain nameless. This particular car (not the one in the ad) came back more times than Peggy Mitchell in eastenders following a replacement windscreen. That was of course because the owner had taken it to BMW stating that the electrics had st themselves, they in turn blamed us, and following an almost complete diss-assembly of the interior, it would seem that the electrics on these were simply a load of crap.

I've never liked them, and it has nothing to do with any of the above. A car I simply don't get. Still, BMW must make a ton of money from keeping them on the road.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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I think it's an alright little car - but it's not a good shed, ahm oot.

Touringforfun

14 posts

107 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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My wife ran a 2012 Cooper D ( Not a fan of diesels, but the petrol version was rubbish) for 3 years. Great handling little car and comfortable for two, but back seats and boot were useless. Aircon was never that good and headlights pretty poor too.


irocfan

40,431 posts

190 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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weirdly I quite like these - a few years ago I fancied a Cooper S but my friend (who owned one) put me off with his tales of fuel consumption (it wasn't so much that the mpgs were bad, rather that I could nearly get the same out of my Iroc Camaro - 4-pot sounds vs 8-pot? Hmmmm....)

MrGeoff

650 posts

172 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Weren't the boxes in these originally designed as 4 speed and morphed in to a 5 speed by BMW to get it out quickly? Or was I told a lie?

the_hood

771 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Not at that mileage.
I remember going to look at one years ago. Even though it wasn't very old the interior was looking very tired.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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ambuletz said:
i always liked those tele dial wheels on the mk1 and mk2 MINI. is that the proper name for them? (the allows that is)
Imolas - quite light