Nasty situation - not easy to avoid?

Nasty situation - not easy to avoid?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Evanivitch said:
So jump on the brakes everytime someone moves into the gap you've left? Because that would be the only way to constantly maintain a distance.
Did I say 'jump on the brakes'? Taking your foot off the accelerator pedal will suffice in most situations.

Evanivitch said:
You eventually find yourself backiioff so much you're not making progress past lane 2.
Then so be it. If traffic's that dense, you're not going to be making much 'progress' anyway...

hora

37,116 posts

211 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Am I the only person who uses hazard lights to warn and slow of if I'm at the back?

Can't we make this a common sense requirement? Every time I ve had to do this only a few other driver reciprocate

drdino

1,148 posts

142 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zkrXZ7mM8

The original upload. From the description:

"Me, my wife and one more passenger are all good! We ended up catch 1 car only.
Update: 12/09/2016 my insurance company put fault on me and advice us to take independent solicitor. From they words, they wouldn't be able to win this case in a court."

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

108 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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swerni said:
If the driver has been paying attention they wouldn't be in that situation in the first place.

Easily avoidable.
I said what happened in the video.
I.e. You are in the same situation as the camera car from the point the video starts and go from there. Then it is unavoidable

768

13,662 posts

96 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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NiceCupOfTea said:
I think the real issues are:

1. middle laners meaning that you get a procession of frustrated cars queueing in the outside lane to get past.
I'd agree with that. Lane 3 usually carries far more traffic as a result of poor use of 1 and 2.

People really need to look further ahead than the car in front though.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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drdino said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zkrXZ7mM8

The original upload. From the description:

"Me, my wife and one more passenger are all good! We ended up catch 1 car only.
Update: 12/09/2016 my insurance company put fault on me and advice us to take independent solicitor. From they words, they wouldn't be able to win this case in a court."
WTF did he think was at fault? He hit a stationary car (or three)...

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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camera guy didn't seem to react at all to the car in front braking and swerving until he was gone.

also it looked like the polo at the back of the queue did indeed have hazards on

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
drdino said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zkrXZ7mM8

The original upload. From the description:

"Me, my wife and one more passenger are all good! We ended up catch 1 car only.
Update: 12/09/2016 my insurance company put fault on me and advice us to take independent solicitor. From they words, they wouldn't be able to win this case in a court."
WTF did he think was at fault? He hit a stationary car (or three)...
Pretty much what I thought too, the driver in front may have been asleep, but it wasn't his job to be a lookout.



Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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drdino said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zkrXZ7mM8

The original upload. From the description:

"... We ended up catch 1 car only. "
Remarkable that he only hit one car. I wonder if he ran the offside of his car along the Armco?

I also didn't realise until someone commented that the car ahead of caught the corner of the rear-most vehicle - the people in that that car had a lucky escape as the did the swerving driver, he could so easily have spun and been t-boned by the van.

rxe

6,700 posts

103 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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I think the dashcam probably narrows the field of vision a bit - I'm rarely completely unaware of traffic several cars ahead as it looks like this guy was. However, as others have said, he was too close, as would 99% of other drivers be.

The bloke in the car in front may have been not looking where he was going, but all credit for a spectacular save - he must have missed the stationary car by a few inches at high speed. He did well not to spin it.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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sharp910sh said:
whats wrong with the polo's wheel? looks like its sticking out?
The Skoda did that when he didn't quite swerve enough. Pause the video around 0:20, and you can see the Skoda lurch. It's easier in the YouTube original.

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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rxe said:
I think the dashcam probably narrows the field of vision a bit - I'm rarely completely unaware of traffic several cars ahead as it looks like this guy was. However, as others have said, he was too close, as would 99% of other drivers be.

The bloke in the car in front may have been not looking where he was going, but all credit for a spectacular save - he must have missed the stationary car by a few inches at high speed. He did well not to spin it.
He didn't miss it, stop the video and you can see the damage to the back of the car.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Some comments on the youtube clip are say not at fault.


Oh well.

motco

Original Poster:

15,944 posts

246 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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The camera car was even closer to the car ahead as they approached the shed on the truck in lane 2 (which should never have been out of lane 1 anyway), and he drops back to about a one second gap from about three quarters of a second. Even two seconds would probably not have prevented the collision though. Motorways lull drivers into a sort of semi-torpor and reactions are dulled. The bottom line is that the camera car was at least twice as close as he ought to have been, and the car driver that swerved was utterly negligent in noticing the stationary car (with hazards on!) only at the very last fraction of a second. All that being said it is an occurrence that could happen any day on any motorway. It's only luck that stops it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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jmorgan said:
Some comments on the youtube clip are say not at fault.


Oh well.
youtube=dailymail=load of rubbish

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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jmorgan said:
Some comments on the youtube clip are say not at fault.

Oh well.
...and the rest of the comments are the media asking for permission to use it. So that's how "journalism" works today...

jamei303

3,001 posts

156 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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If you're in the outside lane you have the ability to position yourself over to the right to keep sight of the vehicles ahead of the one immediately in front of you. If you can't do that because the vehicle in front is too large for example, then you need to adjust your following distance accordingly.

Mandat

3,884 posts

238 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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EazyDuz said:
I said what happened in the video.
I.e. You are in the same situation as the camera car from the point the video starts and go from there. Then it is unavoidable
That was completely avoidable, if only the drivers concerned were driving using the minimum of appropriate observation and anticipation skills.

SlimJim16v

5,652 posts

143 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Poor observation by everyone. People are st, ignorant, drivers.
Lucky escape for several people.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
jmorgan said:
Some comments on the youtube clip are say not at fault.

Oh well.
...and the rest of the comments are the media asking for permission to use it. So that's how "journalism" works today...
Nothing changes there, they were doing that before the internet (with respect taking stories from all sources). Add the click bait aspect.

Wonder if the papers will say "look mate, want to borrow this for our newspaper, it will show you the tool as you are and it gets us a shed load of money for the ads as we snare people"......